The moon

If you don't enjoy the battle, why are you on the battlefield?  Perhaps it never occurred to you, but I'm hoping they do bring up their bendy light or Rawbottom perspective.  "Cry Havoc, and let slip the dogs of war"....

Quote from: pitdroidtech on October 12, 2011, 09:02:30 AM

If you don't enjoy the battle, why are you on the battlefield?  Perhaps it never occurred to you, but I'm hoping they do bring up their bendy light or Rawbottom perspective.  "Cry Havoc, and let slip the dogs of war"....

Or, perhaps, God forbid, the moon is rotating.

Quote from: Nolhekh on October 11, 2011, 10:52:33 AM

Quote from: Lord Xenu on October 11, 2011, 06:46:07 AM

Since the moon is a thin, flat disc, one would not see the far side of the moon from anywhere on earth.

If the moon is a flat disc not much more than 3000 miles above the surface, why does it always appear circular regardless of the location it's observed from?

Bendy light. If it was round, it would begin to look flat as it approached the horizon.

Quote from: 29silhouette on October 11, 2011, 11:13:45 AM

It does flatten out as it goes over the horizon.  Flattens quite a bit.  One has to be high up to see it though.  I was flying to Korea at night and watched the moon set.  The extra amount of atmosphere I was looking at it through also made it look increasingly red the closer it got to the the horizon.  Also, no, I couldn't see the horizon itself, it was night.

As you go higher the moon begins to look squashed, I know. That's because it's flat.

Quote from: Lord Xenu on October 12, 2011, 01:36:48 AM

Quote from: 29silhouette on October 11, 2011, 11:13:45 AM

It does flatten out as it goes over the horizon.  Flattens quite a bit.  One has to be high up to see it though.  I was flying to Korea at night and watched the moon set.  The extra amount of atmosphere I was looking at it through also made it look increasingly red the closer it got to the the horizon.  Also, no, I couldn't see the horizon itself, it was night.

As you go higher the moon begins to look squashed, I know. That's because it's flat.

Actually it looked round for quite a while.  It wasn't until it was close to the horizon that it began to take on a red tint and then squish down.  The width still being the same of course.  Once it started to flatten, it didn't take very long to become almost completely flattened while fading away.

It didn't have a perfect oval shape either as one would expect when looking at a disk from different angles.  The bottom started to flatten first while the top retained more of a curve.

Quote from: 29silhouette on October 12, 2011, 01:45:25 PM

Quote from: Lord Xenu on October 12, 2011, 01:36:48 AM

Quote from: 29silhouette on October 11, 2011, 11:13:45 AM

It does flatten out as it goes over the horizon.  Flattens quite a bit.  One has to be high up to see it though.  I was flying to Korea at night and watched the moon set.  The extra amount of atmosphere I was looking at it through also made it look increasingly red the closer it got to the the horizon.  Also, no, I couldn't see the horizon itself, it was night.

As you go higher the moon begins to look squashed, I know. That's because it's flat.

Actually it looked round for quite a while.  It wasn't until it was close to the horizon that it began to take on a red tint and then squish down.  The width still being the same of course.  Once it started to flatten, it didn't take very long to become almost completely flattened while fading away.

It didn't have a perfect oval shape either as one would expect when looking at a disk from different angles.  The bottom started to flatten first while the top retained more of a curve.

This is a mirage affect.

http://kingeider.blogspot.com/2011/03/super-moon-in-mirage.html

It only happens occasionally, and the phenomena is insufficient to explain a flat earth moon setting which more than 90% of the time does not set in this distorted shape.

Quote from: pitdroidtech on October 12, 2011, 08:06:19 PM

Quote from: 29silhouette on October 12, 2011, 01:45:25 PM

Quote from: Lord Xenu on October 12, 2011, 01:36:48 AM

Quote from: 29silhouette on October 11, 2011, 11:13:45 AM

It does flatten out as it goes over the horizon.  Flattens quite a bit.  One has to be high up to see it though.  I was flying to Korea at night and watched the moon set.  The extra amount of atmosphere I was looking at it through also made it look increasingly red the closer it got to the the horizon.  Also, no, I couldn't see the horizon itself, it was night.

As you go higher the moon begins to look squashed, I know. That's because it's flat.

Actually it looked round for quite a while.  It wasn't until it was close to the horizon that it began to take on a red tint and then squish down.  The width still being the same of course.  Once it started to flatten, it didn't take very long to become almost completely flattened while fading away.

It didn't have a perfect oval shape either as one would expect when looking at a disk from different angles.  The bottom started to flatten first while the top retained more of a curve.

This is a mirage affect.

http://kingeider.blogspot.com/2011/03/super-moon-in-mirage.html

It only happens occasionally, and the phenomena is insufficient to explain a flat earth moon setting which more than 90% of the time does not set in this distorted shape.

That only occurs when you are at high altitude. Othewise, bendy light accounts for the round shape.

How can light moving perpendicular to the moon's surface manage to bend in all directions at once?

Also, in believing bendy light, what evidence do you accept that suggests the flatness of the earth?

Quote from: pitdroidtech on October 12, 2011, 08:06:19 PM

Quote from: 29silhouette on October 12, 2011, 01:45:25 PM

Quote from: Lord Xenu on October 12, 2011, 01:36:48 AM

Quote from: 29silhouette on October 11, 2011, 11:13:45 AM

It does flatten out as it goes over the horizon.  Flattens quite a bit.  One has to be high up to see it though.  I was flying to Korea at night and watched the moon set.  The extra amount of atmosphere I was looking at it through also made it look increasingly red the closer it got to the the horizon.  Also, no, I couldn't see the horizon itself, it was night.

As you go higher the moon begins to look squashed, I know. That's because it's flat.

Actually it looked round for quite a while.  It wasn't until it was close to the horizon that it began to take on a red tint and then squish down.  The width still being the same of course.  Once it started to flatten, it didn't take very long to become almost completely flattened while fading away.

It didn't have a perfect oval shape either as one would expect when looking at a disk from different angles.  The bottom started to flatten first while the top retained more of a curve.

This is a mirage affect.

http://kingeider.blogspot.com/2011/03/super-moon-in-mirage.html

It only happens occasionally, and the phenomena is insufficient to explain a flat earth moon setting which more than 90% of the time does not set in this distorted shape.

That only occurs when you are at high altitude. Othewise, bendy light accounts for the round shape.

Quote from: Lord Xenu on October 13, 2011, 12:21:01 AM

Quote from: pitdroidtech on October 12, 2011, 08:06:19 PM

Quote from: 29silhouette on October 12, 2011, 01:45:25 PM

Quote from: Lord Xenu on October 12, 2011, 01:36:48 AM

Quote from: 29silhouette on October 11, 2011, 11:13:45 AM

It does flatten out as it goes over the horizon.  Flattens quite a bit.  One has to be high up to see it though.  I was flying to Korea at night and watched the moon set.  The extra amount of atmosphere I was looking at it through also made it look increasingly red the closer it got to the the horizon.  Also, no, I couldn't see the horizon itself, it was night.

As you go higher the moon begins to look squashed, I know. That's because it's flat.

Actually it looked round for quite a while.  It wasn't until it was close to the horizon that it began to take on a red tint and then squish down.  The width still being the same of course.  Once it started to flatten, it didn't take very long to become almost completely flattened while fading away.

It didn't have a perfect oval shape either as one would expect when looking at a disk from different angles.  The bottom started to flatten first while the top retained more of a curve.

This is a mirage affect.

http://kingeider.blogspot.com/2011/03/super-moon-in-mirage.html

It only happens occasionally, and the phenomena is insufficient to explain a flat earth moon setting which more than 90% of the time does not set in this distorted shape.

That only occurs when you are at high altitude. Othewise, bendy light accounts for the round shape.

Um.. it's a well known and well documented phenomena, photographed and observed at ground level more often than at height.  You also get the same effect on the sun. 

How can light moving perpendicular to the moon's surface manage to bend in all directions at once?

Also, in believing bendy light, what evidence do you accept that suggests the flatness of the earth?

Quote from: Nolhekh on October 13, 2011, 06:25:18 AM

How can light moving perpendicular to the moon's surface manage to bend in all directions at once?

The moonshrimp give out light in all directions. What do you mean by this statement?

Quote from: Nolhekh on October 13, 2011, 06:25:18 AM

Also, in believing bendy light, what evidence do you accept that suggests the flatness of the earth?

The Bedford level experiment. Light only bends over long distances (e.g. between the moon and the earth) and would not have affected Rowbotham's findings.

Quote from: Lord Xenu on October 13, 2011, 07:18:38 AM

Quote from: Nolhekh on October 13, 2011, 06:25:18 AM

How can light moving perpendicular to the moon's surface manage to bend in all directions at once?

The moonshrimp give out light in all directions. What do you mean by this statement?

Quote from: Nolhekh on October 13, 2011, 06:25:18 AM

Also, in believing bendy light, what evidence do you accept that suggests the flatness of the earth?

The Bedford level experiment. Light only bends over long distances (e.g. between the moon and the earth) and would not have affected Rowbotham's findings.

For the moon to look circular, the light coming off of it would have to travel normal to the surface of the moon, then bend towards whatever observer is watching it.  But it would have to bend in all directions at once, so that observers everywhere see a circular moon.  Also the bending required for the moon to appear at the horizon directly due east or west without diminishing in size does require a vertical curve whose magnitude is comparable to that of the supposed curvature of Round Earth, plus a horizontal bend so that the moon appears east or west despite really being located slightly north.  Given this case, rowbotham's observations either disprove both RET and bendy light, or are inconclusive due to the possibility of light-bending phenomena.

the distance between the bent light rays in your diagram is still smaller than the actual width of the moon.  This means the moon is squishing into an ellipse.

Quote from: Nolhekh on October 13, 2011, 08:54:20 AM

the distance between the bent light rays in your diagram is still smaller than the actual width of the moon.  This means the moon is squishing into an ellipse.

But I deliberately put the ends of the rays the same distance apart. 

Quote from: Lord Xenu on October 13, 2011, 08:55:06 AM

Quote from: Nolhekh on October 13, 2011, 08:54:20 AM

the distance between the bent light rays in your diagram is still smaller than the actual width of the moon.  This means the moon is squishing into an ellipse.

But I deliberately put the ends of the rays the same distance apart. 

Yes, but the image resolves perpendicular to the light rays, so the perpendicular distance between them is the important distance.  Where the light rays end is irrelevant

Nonsense. Why are people still trying to explain things with bendy light when it's been totally disproved? Bendy light doesn't work, Xenu. You should read the forum a bit more thoroughly.

Quote from: The Knowledge on October 12, 2011, 12:56:38 PM

Nonsense. Why are people still trying to explain things with bendy light when it's been totally disproved? Bendy light doesn't work, Xenu. You should read the forum a bit more thoroughly.

This applies to you too Nolhekh. Is my post invisible or something? Bendy light was disproved months and months ago. The stars don't obey the "rules" of bendy light, disproving it. All this debate is hot air.

Quote from: The Knowledge on October 13, 2011, 09:41:10 AM

Quote from: The Knowledge on October 12, 2011, 12:56:38 PM

Nonsense. Why are people still trying to explain things with bendy light when it's been totally disproved? Bendy light doesn't work, Xenu. You should read the forum a bit more thoroughly.

This applies to you too Nolhekh. Is my post invisible or something? Bendy light was disproved months and months ago. The stars don't obey the "rules" of bendy light, disproving it. All this debate is hot air.

Doesn't matter, Xenu is still invoking bendy light.  I don't really care if it's been disproven months ago.  As far as I'm concerned the earth was proven round years ago, yet here we are still arguing with the flat earthers.  I will argue with those who's claims I feel lack support, using whatever technique or argument I feel are appropriate.  If Xenu happens to be deliberately ignorant of the thread in question, that isn't really my problem.

Making people look stupid is a poor goal in a debate.  If someone makes himself look stupid because he's a troll, that's his own fault.  If he really doesn't understand what I'm talking about, I'm only happy to try to explain my point as well as I can.

Here, I see your MS Paint diagram, and raise you a Blender and Photoshop diagram.

Quote from: Nolhekh on October 13, 2011, 09:23:32 AM

Here, I see your MS Paint diagram, and raise you a Blender and Photoshop diagram.

That is an excellent diagram, and you have successfully backed my Flat Moon Theory. I commend you, sir.

Quote from: Lord Xenu on October 13, 2011, 10:31:26 AM

Quote from: Nolhekh on October 13, 2011, 09:23:32 AM

Here, I see your MS Paint diagram, and raise you a Blender and Photoshop diagram.

That is an excellent diagram, and you have successfully backed my Flat Moon Theory. I commend you, sir.

This diagram has been disproved.

Why are people still trying to explain things with bendy light when it's been totally disproved? Bendy light doesn't work, Xenu. You should read the forum a bit more thoroughly.

Quote from: The Knowledge on October 12, 2011, 12:56:38 PM

Why are people still trying to explain things with bendy light when it's been totally disproved? Bendy light doesn't work, Xenu. You should read the forum a bit more thoroughly.

*sigh*

My question still stands, how can light bend in all directions at once?

In reality, they would be bending in literally as many directions as you have photons.