INS disproves FE.

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 11:06:28 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:54:08 PM

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 02:08:35 PM

INS units have compromised software which has been modded by the Conspiracy. Their data recordings are invalid.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard for fellows who use them?
Would constantly be off track because of this... At least; I would think so.

They still work in the intended fashion, but they give false data that indicates a round earth instead of a flat one.

Again, how would that work?
In order to give enough; the readings would be completely off.

Only to an observer looking at raw data, which pilots don't. All they need to know is that they think they know where they're going. As long as they get to where they're going, I don't think they're going to bring up a fuss about it.

Those missiles only use raw data... How do you explain that?

Quote from: iconoclast on March 16, 2012, 08:52:50 AM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 11:06:28 PM

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 09:45:00 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:42:57 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 02:08:35 PM

INS units have compromised software which has been modded by the Conspiracy. Their data recordings are invalid.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard for fellows who use them?
Would constantly be off track because of this... At least; I would think so.

They still work in the intended fashion, but they give false data that indicates a round earth instead of a flat one.

Again, how would that work?
In order to give enough; the readings would be completely off.

Only to an observer looking at raw data, which pilots don't. All they need to know is that they think they know where they're going. As long as they get to where they're going, I don't think they're going to bring up a fuss about it.

Those missiles only use raw data... How do you explain that?

Missiles aren't people, I doubt they're going to contemplate the shape of the earth on the route to their destination. If they are, then we have much bigger problems than we are currently discussing.

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Quote from: iconoclast on March 16, 2012, 08:52:50 AM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 11:06:28 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:54:08 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 09:45:00 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:42:57 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 02:08:35 PM

INS units have compromised software which has been modded by the Conspiracy. Their data recordings are invalid.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard for fellows who use them?
Would constantly be off track because of this... At least; I would think so.

They still work in the intended fashion, but they give false data that indicates a round earth instead of a flat one.

Again, how would that work?
In order to give enough; the readings would be completely off.

Only to an observer looking at raw data, which pilots don't. All they need to know is that they think they know where they're going. As long as they get to where they're going, I don't think they're going to bring up a fuss about it.

Those missiles only use raw data... How do you explain that?

Missiles aren't people, I doubt they're going to contemplate the shape of the earth on the route to their destination. If they are, then we have much bigger problems than we are currently discussing.

Another straw man... Why do observers have to be the missiles?

Quote from: ClockTower on March 16, 2012, 09:06:16 AM

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 11:06:28 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:54:08 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 09:45:00 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:42:57 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 02:08:35 PM

INS units have compromised software which has been modded by the Conspiracy. Their data recordings are invalid.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard for fellows who use them?
Would constantly be off track because of this... At least; I would think so.

They still work in the intended fashion, but they give false data that indicates a round earth instead of a flat one.

Again, how would that work?
In order to give enough; the readings would be completely off.

Only to an observer looking at raw data, which pilots don't. All they need to know is that they think they know where they're going. As long as they get to where they're going, I don't think they're going to bring up a fuss about it.

Those missiles only use raw data... How do you explain that?

Missiles aren't people, I doubt they're going to contemplate the shape of the earth on the route to their destination. If they are, then we have much bigger problems than we are currently discussing.

Another straw man... Why do observers have to be the missiles?

www.rif.org

Quote from: iconoclast on March 16, 2012, 08:52:50 AM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 11:06:28 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:54:08 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 09:45:00 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:42:57 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 02:08:35 PM

INS units have compromised software which has been modded by the Conspiracy. Their data recordings are invalid.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard for fellows who use them?
Would constantly be off track because of this... At least; I would think so.

They still work in the intended fashion, but they give false data that indicates a round earth instead of a flat one.

Again, how would that work?
In order to give enough; the readings would be completely off.

Only to an observer looking at raw data, which pilots don't. All they need to know is that they think they know where they're going. As long as they get to where they're going, I don't think they're going to bring up a fuss about it.

Those missiles only use raw data... How do you explain that?

Missiles aren't people, I doubt they're going to contemplate the shape of the earth on the route to their destination. If they are, then we have much bigger problems than we are currently discussing.

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:09:39 AM

Quote from: ClockTower on March 16, 2012, 09:06:16 AM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 08:55:39 AM

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 11:06:28 PM

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 09:45:00 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:42:57 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 02:08:35 PM

INS units have compromised software which has been modded by the Conspiracy. Their data recordings are invalid.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard for fellows who use them?
Would constantly be off track because of this... At least; I would think so.

They still work in the intended fashion, but they give false data that indicates a round earth instead of a flat one.

Again, how would that work?
In order to give enough; the readings would be completely off.

Only to an observer looking at raw data, which pilots don't. All they need to know is that they think they know where they're going. As long as they get to where they're going, I don't think they're going to bring up a fuss about it.

Those missiles only use raw data... How do you explain that?

Missiles aren't people, I doubt they're going to contemplate the shape of the earth on the route to their destination. If they are, then we have much bigger problems than we are currently discussing.

Another straw man... Why do observers have to be the missiles?

www.rif.org

Please learn to reason... Observers of the missiles could do the contemplating. <geesh>

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:09:39 AM

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 09:45:00 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:42:57 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 02:08:35 PM

INS units have compromised software which has been modded by the Conspiracy. Their data recordings are invalid.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard for fellows who use them?
Would constantly be off track because of this... At least; I would think so.

They still work in the intended fashion, but they give false data that indicates a round earth instead of a flat one.

Again, how would that work?
In order to give enough; the readings would be completely off.

Only to an observer looking at raw data, which pilots don't. All they need to know is that they think they know where they're going. As long as they get to where they're going, I don't think they're going to bring up a fuss about it.

Those missiles only use raw data... How do you explain that?

Missiles aren't people, I doubt they're going to contemplate the shape of the earth on the route to their destination. If they are, then we have much bigger problems than we are currently discussing.

Another straw man... Why do observers have to be the missiles?

www.rif.org

Please learn to reason... Observers of the missiles could do the contemplating. <geesh>

I don't see that sentence talking about observers, do you? All I see is a statement that missiles use raw data.

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 09:45:00 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:42:57 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 02:08:35 PM

INS units have compromised software which has been modded by the Conspiracy. Their data recordings are invalid.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard for fellows who use them?
Would constantly be off track because of this... At least; I would think so.

They still work in the intended fashion, but they give false data that indicates a round earth instead of a flat one.

Again, how would that work?
In order to give enough; the readings would be completely off.

Only to an observer looking at raw data, which pilots don't. All they need to know is that they think they know where they're going. As long as they get to where they're going, I don't think they're going to bring up a fuss about it.

Those missiles only use raw data... How do you explain that?

Missiles aren't people, I doubt they're going to contemplate the shape of the earth on the route to their destination. If they are, then we have much bigger problems than we are currently discussing.

Another straw man... Why do observers have to be the missiles?

www.rif.org

Please learn to reason... Observers of the missiles could do the contemplating. <geesh>

I don't see that sentence talking about observers, do you? All I see is a statement that missiles use raw data.

Where do you see that anyone claimed that missiles had to the observers--excepting you of course?

Quote from: ClockTower on March 16, 2012, 12:44:58 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 12:26:04 PM

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 09:45:00 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:42:57 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 02:08:35 PM

INS units have compromised software which has been modded by the Conspiracy. Their data recordings are invalid.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard for fellows who use them?
Would constantly be off track because of this... At least; I would think so.

They still work in the intended fashion, but they give false data that indicates a round earth instead of a flat one.

Again, how would that work?
In order to give enough; the readings would be completely off.

Only to an observer looking at raw data, which pilots don't. All they need to know is that they think they know where they're going. As long as they get to where they're going, I don't think they're going to bring up a fuss about it.

Those missiles only use raw data... How do you explain that?

Missiles aren't people, I doubt they're going to contemplate the shape of the earth on the route to their destination. If they are, then we have much bigger problems than we are currently discussing.

Another straw man... Why do observers have to be the missiles?

www.rif.org

Please learn to reason... Observers of the missiles could do the contemplating. <geesh>

I don't see that sentence talking about observers, do you? All I see is a statement that missiles use raw data.

Where do you see that anyone claimed that missiles had to the observers--excepting you of course?

I went to www.thesaurus.com, it turns out that the word "missile" and the word "observer" aren't related. At all. I'm confused here, ClockTower, because you keep using this "observer" word when it wasn't mentioned in my post. Where did I claim missiles would be observing anything?

Also, you accidentally a word.

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Quote from: ClockTower on March 16, 2012, 12:44:58 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 12:26:04 PM

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 09:45:00 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 15, 2012, 09:42:57 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 02:08:35 PM

INS units have compromised software which has been modded by the Conspiracy. Their data recordings are invalid.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard for fellows who use them?
Would constantly be off track because of this... At least; I would think so.

They still work in the intended fashion, but they give false data that indicates a round earth instead of a flat one.

Again, how would that work?
In order to give enough; the readings would be completely off.

Only to an observer looking at raw data, which pilots don't. All they need to know is that they think they know where they're going. As long as they get to where they're going, I don't think they're going to bring up a fuss about it.

Those missiles only use raw data... How do you explain that?

Missiles aren't people, I doubt they're going to contemplate the shape of the earth on the route to their destination. If they are, then we have much bigger problems than we are currently discussing.

Another straw man... Why do observers have to be the missiles?

www.rif.org

Please learn to reason... Observers of the missiles could do the contemplating. <geesh>

I don't see that sentence talking about observers, do you? All I see is a statement that missiles use raw data.

Where do you see that anyone claimed that missiles had to the observers--excepting you of course?

I went to www.thesaurus.com, it turns out that the word "missile" and the word "observer" aren't related. At all. I'm confused here, ClockTower, because you keep using this "observer" word when it wasn't mentioned in my post. Where did I claim missiles would be observing anything?

Also, you accidentally a word.

Who said the words were related? Please stop with the straw man fallacies.

Quote from: ClockTower on March 16, 2012, 04:52:28 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 04:05:32 PM

Quote from: ClockTower on March 16, 2012, 12:44:58 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 12:26:04 PM

Quote from: ClockTower on March 16, 2012, 09:25:31 AM

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 15, 2012, 02:08:35 PM

INS units have compromised software which has been modded by the Conspiracy. Their data recordings are invalid.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard for fellows who use them?
Would constantly be off track because of this... At least; I would think so.

They still work in the intended fashion, but they give false data that indicates a round earth instead of a flat one.

Again, how would that work?
In order to give enough; the readings would be completely off.

Only to an observer looking at raw data, which pilots don't. All they need to know is that they think they know where they're going. As long as they get to where they're going, I don't think they're going to bring up a fuss about it.

Those missiles only use raw data... How do you explain that?

Missiles aren't people, I doubt they're going to contemplate the shape of the earth on the route to their destination. If they are, then we have much bigger problems than we are currently discussing.

Another straw man... Why do observers have to be the missiles?

www.rif.org

Please learn to reason... Observers of the missiles could do the contemplating. <geesh>

I don't see that sentence talking about observers, do you? All I see is a statement that missiles use raw data.

Where do you see that anyone claimed that missiles had to the observers--excepting you of course?

I went to www.thesaurus.com, it turns out that the word "missile" and the word "observer" aren't related. At all. I'm confused here, ClockTower, because you keep using this "observer" word when it wasn't mentioned in my post. Where did I claim missiles would be observing anything?

Also, you accidentally a word.

Who said the words were related? Please stop with the straw man fallacies.

I'll take this as a concession, unless of course you would like to actually answer the question I put forward?

I'll take this as a concession, unless of course you would like to actually answer the question I put forward?

Great post irush, truly made me laugh.

I still am waiting for an answer how pilots are supposed to know how much fuel they are supposed to be carrying with this supposedly false system.

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 03:48:43 PM

I still am waiting for an answer how pilots are supposed to know how much fuel they are supposed to be carrying with this supposedly false system.

The system isn't false, it is modified to show round earth variations in a flat earth system. If you didn't know, on a flat earth all of the land masses are the same size as their RET counterparts, it is the ocean that is stretched out.

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:36:24 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 03:48:43 PM

I still am waiting for an answer how pilots are supposed to know how much fuel they are supposed to be carrying with this supposedly false system.

The system isn't false, it is modified to show round earth variations in a flat earth system. If you didn't know, on a flat earth all of the land masses are the same size as their RET counterparts, it is the ocean that is stretched out.

So how exactly does it do this?
Every tiny move, again, costs fuel.

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 09:41:21 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:36:24 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 03:48:43 PM

I still am waiting for an answer how pilots are supposed to know how much fuel they are supposed to be carrying with this supposedly false system.

The system isn't false, it is modified to show round earth variations in a flat earth system. If you didn't know, on a flat earth all of the land masses are the same size as their RET counterparts, it is the ocean that is stretched out.

So how exactly does it do this?
Every tiny move, again, costs fuel.

For who? A private pilot? They don't normally fly overseas and the ones that do have a tendency of disappearing. The ones that live think "Maybe my route was longer than expected. Maybe it was a higher drag on the aircraft forcing the engine to run harder."

A commercial pilot? They don't monitor their own fuel in any way other than a meter via the cockpit. The company handles all of it, which just happens to be heavily subsidized by the government. I doubt they would miss a little "too much" fuel.

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:48:00 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 09:41:21 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:36:24 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 03:48:43 PM

I still am waiting for an answer how pilots are supposed to know how much fuel they are supposed to be carrying with this supposedly false system.

The system isn't false, it is modified to show round earth variations in a flat earth system. If you didn't know, on a flat earth all of the land masses are the same size as their RET counterparts, it is the ocean that is stretched out.

So how exactly does it do this?
Every tiny move, again, costs fuel.

For who? A private pilot? They don't normally fly overseas and the ones that do have a tendency of disappearing. The ones that live think "Maybe my route was longer than expected. Maybe it was a higher drag on the aircraft forcing the engine to run harder."

A commercial pilot? They don't monitor their own fuel in any way other than a meter via the cockpit. The company handles all of it, which just happens to be heavily subsidized by the government. I doubt they would miss a little "too much" fuel.

I take it you know nothing of pilots. Forget I asked.

Ah, well do come back when you figure out how to counter my answer.

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:54:18 PM

Ah, well do come back when you figure out how to counter my answer.

Perhaps you should do a little research, then, since you have some extra time?
For example; I do doubt you have any proof that private pilots have a " tendency of disappearing", do you?
As well as the fact that each gallon of fuel effects flight, so in fact commercial pilots do have to know exactly how much they have.

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 09:56:47 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:54:18 PM

Ah, well do come back when you figure out how to counter my answer.

Perhaps you should do a little research, then, since you have some extra time?
For example; I do doubt you have any proof that private pilots have a " tendency of disappearing", do you?
As well as the fact that each gallon of fuel effects flight, so in fact commercial pilots do have to know exactly how much they have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart

Maybe you've heard of her?

A commercial pilot doesn't interact with the fuel with anything other than a meter he sees in a cockpit. He does all of his calculations based off this meter. If the conspiracy can modify an INS system, what makes you think they wouldn't modify the meter?

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 09:56:47 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:54:18 PM

Ah, well do come back when you figure out how to counter my answer.

Perhaps you should do a little research, then, since you have some extra time?
For example; I do doubt you have any proof that private pilots have a " tendency of disappearing", do you?
As well as the fact that each gallon of fuel effects flight, so in fact commercial pilots do have to know exactly how much they have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart

Maybe you've heard of her?

A commercial pilot doesn't interact with the fuel with anything other than a meter he sees in a cockpit. He does all of his calculations based off this meter. If the conspiracy can modify an INS system, what makes you think they wouldn't modify the meter?

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 10:00:08 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 09:56:47 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:54:18 PM

Ah, well do come back when you figure out how to counter my answer.

Perhaps you should do a little research, then, since you have some extra time?
For example; I do doubt you have any proof that private pilots have a " tendency of disappearing", do you?
As well as the fact that each gallon of fuel effects flight, so in fact commercial pilots do have to know exactly how much they have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart

Maybe you've heard of her?

A commercial pilot doesn't interact with the fuel with anything other than a meter he sees in a cockpit. He does all of his calculations based off this meter. If the conspiracy can modify an INS system, what makes you think they wouldn't modify the meter?

What about all of the navigation that went on for thousands of years before INS?  Who modified the instruments before the digital age?

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 09:56:47 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:54:18 PM

Ah, well do come back when you figure out how to counter my answer.

Perhaps you should do a little research, then, since you have some extra time?
For example; I do doubt you have any proof that private pilots have a " tendency of disappearing", do you?
As well as the fact that each gallon of fuel effects flight, so in fact commercial pilots do have to know exactly how much they have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart

Maybe you've heard of her?

A commercial pilot doesn't interact with the fuel with anything other than a meter he sees in a cockpit. He does all of his calculations based off this meter. If the conspiracy can modify an INS system, what makes you think they wouldn't modify the meter?

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 10:00:08 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 09:56:47 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:54:18 PM

Ah, well do come back when you figure out how to counter my answer.

Perhaps you should do a little research, then, since you have some extra time?
For example; I do doubt you have any proof that private pilots have a " tendency of disappearing", do you?
As well as the fact that each gallon of fuel effects flight, so in fact commercial pilots do have to know exactly how much they have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart

Maybe you've heard of her?

A commercial pilot doesn't interact with the fuel with anything other than a meter he sees in a cockpit. He does all of his calculations based off this meter. If the conspiracy can modify an INS system, what makes you think they wouldn't modify the meter?

Also, from what I understand from a co-worker who is a private pilot, most of the fuel calculations are done before the plane leaves the ground.  Unless you can show proof otherwise, it would make sense that the same goes for commercial flights.  Therefore, the guy(s) filling the tank would have to be manipulating the volume in coordination with the manipulated instruments in order for any kind of trickery to be happening.  There would have to be at least one, but more likely more, conspiracy trickster at every airport in order for them to make every pilot on every flight think that he/she has used a different amount of fuel than he/she actually has.

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Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 10:00:08 PM

Quote from: Graff on March 16, 2012, 09:56:47 PM

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on March 16, 2012, 09:54:18 PM

Ah, well do come back when you figure out how to counter my answer.

Perhaps you should do a little research, then, since you have some extra time?
For example; I do doubt you have any proof that private pilots have a " tendency of disappearing", do you?
As well as the fact that each gallon of fuel effects flight, so in fact commercial pilots do have to know exactly how much they have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart

Maybe you've heard of her?

A commercial pilot doesn't interact with the fuel with anything other than a meter he sees in a cockpit. He does all of his calculations based off this meter. If the conspiracy can modify an INS system, what makes you think they wouldn't modify the meter?

Also, from what I understand from a co-worker who is a private pilot, most of the fuel calculations are done before the plane leaves the ground.  Unless you can show proof otherwise, it would make sense that the same goes for commercial flights.  Therefore, the guy(s) filling the tank would have to be manipulating the volume in coordination with the manipulated instruments in order for any kind of trickery to be happening.  There would have to be at least one, but more likely more, conspiracy trickster at every airport in order for them to make every pilot on every flight think that he/she has used a different amount of fuel than he/she actually has.

On a commercial flight, the maintenance crew simply fills the tank up with the amount they were told to fill it up with. There is no magic number changing in that. Also, to answer your previous question of what happened before the digital age, the instruments weren't modified at all.

If you'd like to debate the Conspiracy, I believe that the FEG forum is the place. (I am not a mod.) Let's keep FED classy please.