"No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"

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"No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« on: September 29, 2011, 10:28:06 AM »
Also, no man has witnessed a tree grow for over several hundred years. Anyone who thinks there are trees that last longer than people must be crazy.
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2011, 10:56:42 AM »
Also, no man has witnessed a tree grow for over several hundred years. Anyone who thinks there are trees that last longer than people must be crazy.
Please explain why they have rings through the trunk. I am now unable to fathom a reason. I foolishly believed it was to do with annual growing seasons and it represented age. But that would make some of them much older than people.


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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2011, 12:49:58 PM »
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2011, 02:23:06 PM »
Also, no man has witnessed a tree grow for over several hundred years. Anyone who thinks there are trees that last longer than people must be crazy.
Please explain why they have rings through the trunk. I am now unable to fathom a reason. I foolishly believed it was to do with annual growing seasons and it represented age. But that would make some of them much older than people.


It has to do with the secondary xylem (following maturation of procambium into vascular cambium in dicots).
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2011, 03:10:23 PM »
It has to do with the secondary xylem (following maturation of procambium into vascular cambium in dicots).
Are you saying they just 'are'? No explanation. They are stripy because they are?

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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2011, 04:08:03 PM »
It has to do with the secondary xylem (following maturation of procambium into vascular cambium in dicots).
Are you saying they just 'are'? No explanation. They are stripy because they are?
No it's because of water uptake in vascular xylem. More water=bigger xylem=ring pattern variations which are just cells.
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2011, 04:15:12 PM »
And these colour variations/water variations are caused by ...

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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2011, 07:12:56 PM »
Relevant:

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Damn. Looks like my analogy isn't so original after all.

And these colour variations/water variations are caused by ...
The rings follow lunar cycles, not years. Rays of moonlight react to the H2O levels present in the bark. Figured you would be more tuned in to the bleaching and burning powers of moonlight.
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2011, 07:14:50 PM »
I've witnessed really nice people evolve into utter assholes.  Does this count?
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2011, 10:41:33 PM »
"bleaching and burning powers of moonlight."

Moon light is good!

The idea that it is bad is a myth stemming from warewolves etc...it doesn't cause any problems for anything, the idea that moon cycles effect the human psyche in a disruptive manner is also bunk. People whom are creative get more creative during the peak of a moon cycle...

However if you believ it makes people crazy then your belief will have potential to do just that, to others who believe just that. Look at prayer and water crystals Masaru Emoto etc. I know all the science adherents are gonna get uppity about this example because "it's not a repeatable experiment, pseudo science etc" But! dont ignore the fact that repeated experiments that are based on a result of intention are easily corrupted by those who scrutinise them. This simple notion regarding intention experiments renders the sceptic in an unaothoritative position on the matter.

Crystals in general amplify emotional frequency...water is a soluble liquid-quasi-crystal. The ancients worshipped the innate qualities of crystals to heal, why did crystals heal them?... Because they worshipped them, put positive in and you get positive out. They also believed that placing gemstones in moon light cleansed and replenished their energies after having been used.

Conclusion: projections of superstition simply have the effect that is believed, not necessarilly because of what is believed to cause it...

EDIT: It is true that women's period generally follow the moon cycles, however its known that many do not, maybe it was just a belief to begin with. Also is worthy to note that many women have resolved pains associated by becoming vegetarian (this has to be done in a progressive shift tho to get accustomed to a new arrangement of nutritional intake.)   
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2011, 01:42:42 PM »
Relevant:

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Damn. Looks like my analogy isn't so original after all.

No, but I do like the analogy, and it's unfortunate that it will go unaddressed by creationists.
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2011, 01:46:05 PM »
The rings follow lunar cycles, not years. Rays of moonlight react to the H2O levels present in the bark. Figured you would be more tuned in to the bleaching and burning powers of moonlight.
Those poor trees. I forget they are out in the moonlight all night with no protection. The damage to them is truly horrific. I hope Ichi is able to find a way to prevent moonburn in trees.

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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2011, 01:59:38 PM »
The rings follow lunar cycles, not years. Rays of moonlight react to the H2O levels present in the bark. Figured you would be more tuned in to the bleaching and burning powers of moonlight.
Those poor trees. I forget they are out in the moonlight all night with no protection. The damage to them is truly horrific. I hope Ichi is able to find a way to prevent moonburn in trees.
Can you get tanned from the moon?
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2011, 03:50:03 PM »
Each plant I kill dies with the honor knowing that one day it'll help other plants.
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2011, 04:00:03 PM »
Plants are brave.

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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2011, 05:19:15 PM »
Each plant I kill dies with the honor knowing that one day it'll help other plants.

Haha you've gotta be a troll if your gonna expect me to believ you study "moon burn" if not go and lay out in the moon light and see for yourself.....no burn

I respect that you believe in FET but seriously where are you getting these ideas about the moon
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2011, 05:20:43 PM »
I do not study moon burn. I study ground tissue and metabolic effects.
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2011, 06:07:38 PM »
I do not study moon burn. I study ground tissue and metabolic effects.

that doesn't answer my question.  :P
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2011, 04:30:45 AM »
Plants are brave.

He is.

Yes those vegetables are brave, after all they are in a coma and may never know if they will ever wake up.
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2011, 09:46:43 AM »
Each plant I kill dies with the honor knowing that one day it'll help other plants.

Haha you've gotta be a troll if your gonna expect me to believe you study "moon burn" if not go and lay out in the moon light and see for yourself.....no burn

Not all radiation poison is immediately obvious, nor does it influence all cellular structures the same way.
Plants undergo changes that effect the colors much more drastically. But humans age because free radicals mutate our DNA. The telomeres that protect our genomes are worn down over time. These countless mutations are benign and simply lead to cellular inefficiency (saggy skin, slowed healing, poorer vision, etc). Other mutations can lead to dangerous cellular activity like cancer.  Moon burn may be much more obvious in plants because of their cellular variations, but both are very destructive. And for the record, willfully subjecting yourself to intense or unnecessary radiation could be considered reckless.
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2011, 11:04:18 PM »
Each plant I kill dies with the honor knowing that one day it'll help other plants.

Haha you've gotta be a troll if your gonna expect me to believe you study "moon burn" if not go and lay out in the moon light and see for yourself.....no burn

Not all radiation poison is immediately obvious, nor does it influence all cellular structures the same way.
Plants undergo changes that effect the colors much more drastically. But humans age because free radicals mutate our DNA. The telomeres that protect our genomes are worn down over time. These countless mutations are benign and simply lead to cellular inefficiency (saggy skin, slowed healing, poorer vision, etc). Other mutations can lead to dangerous cellular activity like cancer.  Moon burn may be much more obvious in plants because of their cellular variations, but both are very destructive. And for the record, willfully subjecting yourself to intense or unnecessary radiation could be considered reckless.

No radiation has ever been detected in moonlight.
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2011, 01:42:13 PM »
Each plant I kill dies with the honor knowing that one day it'll help other plants.

Haha you've gotta be a troll if your gonna expect me to believe you study "moon burn" if not go and lay out in the moon light and see for yourself.....no burn

Not all radiation poison is immediately obvious, nor does it influence all cellular structures the same way.
Plants undergo changes that effect the colors much more drastically. But humans age because free radicals mutate our DNA. The telomeres that protect our genomes are worn down over time. These countless mutations are benign and simply lead to cellular inefficiency (saggy skin, slowed healing, poorer vision, etc). Other mutations can lead to dangerous cellular activity like cancer.  Moon burn may be much more obvious in plants because of their cellular variations, but both are very destructive. And for the record, willfully subjecting yourself to intense or unnecessary radiation could be considered reckless.

No radiation has ever been detected in moonlight.

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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2011, 01:55:02 PM »
Each plant I kill dies with the honor knowing that one day it'll help other plants.

Haha you've gotta be a troll if your gonna expect me to believe you study "moon burn" if not go and lay out in the moon light and see for yourself.....no burn

Not all radiation poison is immediately obvious, nor does it influence all cellular structures the same way.
Plants undergo changes that effect the colors much more drastically. But humans age because free radicals mutate our DNA. The telomeres that protect our genomes are worn down over time. These countless mutations are benign and simply lead to cellular inefficiency (saggy skin, slowed healing, poorer vision, etc). Other mutations can lead to dangerous cellular activity like cancer.  Moon burn may be much more obvious in plants because of their cellular variations, but both are very destructive. And for the record, willfully subjecting yourself to intense or unnecessary radiation could be considered reckless.

No radiation has ever been detected in moonlight.

False

What sort of radiation was detected? Alpha, beta, gamma, etc. ?
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2011, 08:00:37 PM »
Each plant I kill dies with the honor knowing that one day it'll help other plants.

Haha you've gotta be a troll if your gonna expect me to believe you study "moon burn" if not go and lay out in the moon light and see for yourself.....no burn

Not all radiation poison is immediately obvious, nor does it influence all cellular structures the same way.
Plants undergo changes that effect the colors much more drastically. But humans age because free radicals mutate our DNA. The telomeres that protect our genomes are worn down over time. These countless mutations are benign and simply lead to cellular inefficiency (saggy skin, slowed healing, poorer vision, etc). Other mutations can lead to dangerous cellular activity like cancer.  Moon burn may be much more obvious in plants because of their cellular variations, but both are very destructive. And for the record, willfully subjecting yourself to intense or unnecessary radiation could be considered reckless.

No radiation has ever been detected in moonlight.
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2011, 09:13:21 PM »
What sort of radiation was detected? Alpha, beta, gamma, etc. ?

Visible (390-750 nm).
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2011, 09:42:44 PM »
What sort of radiation was detected? Alpha, beta, gamma, etc. ?

Visible (390-750 nm).

I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. What harmful radiation is emitted by the moon?
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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2011, 09:49:31 AM »
What sort of radiation was detected? Alpha, beta, gamma, etc. ?

Visible (390-750 nm).

I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. What harmful radiation is emitted by the moon?

Enough gamma rays to activate the werewolf genome, that is all I need to know.

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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2011, 06:27:09 PM »
Witchdoctor Baloonery

Energy doesn't exist. It's just a relative measure (or comparisson) of the constant fields of frequencies between more baloonery.

Like detective play. Guessing ten out of ten questions is the maximum level of "energy", or comparative flow, while guessing none is "zero energy" or comparative nonsense, and no balance or common influence.

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Re: "No man has ever directly witnessed macroevolution"
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2011, 06:29:09 PM »
Also, no man has witnessed a tree grow for over several hundred years. Anyone who thinks there are trees that last longer than people must be crazy.

All bacteria has witnessed microevolution.

By that logic all people should witness macroevolution, if such a joke existed.

It does not. Bacteria proves it. By casually observing it's own microevolution. Which is part of why it's so much more intelligent than you.

Not that you were intelligent, in the first place.

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