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To anti-Fox News people.
« on: September 09, 2011, 04:07:50 PM »
When and how did you decide Fox News was corrupt and/or biased?
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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2011, 04:17:09 PM »
When I started watching Glen Beck videos.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2011, 04:22:23 PM »
Quote from: Tausami on September 09, 2011, 04:17:09 PM
When I started watching Glen Beck videos.
Any favorite or specific examples?

Quote from: Tausami on September 09, 2011, 04:17:09 PM
When I started watching Glen Beck videos.
Any favorite or specific examples?

For instance, one of the first times I turned my head sideways was after I heard Fox quote crop Biden during the election Obama vs McCain. Fox aired a clip of Biden saying, "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" and proceeded to attack him.

In reality, Biden was actually completely opposed to that notion and was in the middle of quoting McCain. Fox completely and intentionally cropped out the context in order to hurt Biden (Obama) and help McCain who was the actual one guilty of that quote.
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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 04:39:01 PM »

At ~2:00. I couldn't find the original video.

This one's just amusing:
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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 05:05:40 PM »
Quote from: Tausami on September 09, 2011, 04:39:01 PM
This one's just amusing:

Nice. Solid evidence of Beck's pathological lying and an admission he never checks his facts.
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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2011, 05:09:51 PM »
"OBAMA = COMMUNISM", lol.

Another good example is when Fox attacked the nudity in Mass Effect, calling it hardcore pornography. Not only had they not played the game, but they ignored its rating as well. They still attack video games whenever possible, under just as silly pretenses.
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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 05:29:45 PM »
I read Al Franken's book, Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them.  It's a great read, and quite honestly, I would recommend it even to conservatives.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 06:25:01 PM »
Fox News and the Associated Press are the only two major sources of news in the United States.

Fox News is the only news source which isn't corrupted. They actually report the news. The news they present is the news they've gathered themselves, not something they bought from a shadow organization controlled by the government. Fox does not censor their material at government request. Fox News reports the news in full and without censorship. The editorial opinions and editorial segments may be biased, but that's what an editorial opinion is.

The rest of them, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, CBS, USA Today, et. all, are all members of the Associated Press, buys news from them, in addition to publishing their own news through them. This is why you often see multiple news sites publishing the same stories. The Associated Press consists of 1700 newspapers and 5000 television and radio broadcasters. It's very old and very large. The AP regularly censors and pulls stories at the government's request. It's truly an awful organization.

Check out these articles about AP censorship in favor of the government:

http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/mal/mal_08presscensorsfacts.html
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/a-study-of-bias-in-the-associated-press
http://www.infowars.com/articles/immigration/nc_press_censoring_immigration.htm
http://gawker.com/5294026/is-the-associated-press-aiding-iranian-censorship
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1089
http://www.alipac.us/article-910-thread-1-0.html

Also:

"I have appointed Byron Price, Executive News Editor of the Associated Press, to be Director of Censorship, responsible directly to the President." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt (source)

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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 06:39:43 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 09, 2011, 06:25:01 PM
Fox News and the Associated Press are the only two major sources of news in the United States.

Fox News is the only news source which isn't corrupted. They actually report the news. The news they present is the news they've gathered themselves, not something they bought from a shadow organization controlled by the government. Fox does not censor their material at government request. Fox News reports the news in full and without censorship. The editorial opinions and editorial segments may be biased, but that's what an editorial opinion is.

The rest of them, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, et. all, are all members of the Associated Press and buys news from them, in addition to publishing their own news from them. The Associated Press consists of 1700 newspapers and 5000 television and radio broadcasters. It's very old and very large. The AP regularly censors and pulls stories at the government's request. It's truly an awful organization.

Check out these articles about AP censorship in favor of the government:

http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/mal/mal_08presscensorsfacts.html
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/a-study-of-bias-in-the-associated-press
http://www.infowars.com/articles/immigration/nc_press_censoring_immigration.htm
http://gawker.com/5294026/is-the-associated-press-aiding-iranian-censorship
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1089
http://www.alipac.us/article-910-thread-1-0.html

Also:

"I have appointed Byron Price, Executive News Editor of the Associated Press, to be Director of Censorship, responsible directly to the President." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt (source)



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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2011, 06:44:02 PM »
Quote from: Sean on September 09, 2011, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 09, 2011, 06:25:01 PM
Fox News and the Associated Press are the only two major sources of news in the United States.

Fox News is the only news source which isn't corrupted. They actually report the news. The news they present is the news they've gathered themselves, not something they bought from a shadow organization controlled by the government. Fox does not censor their material at government request. Fox News reports the news in full and without censorship. The editorial opinions and editorial segments may be biased, but that's what an editorial opinion is.

The rest of them, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, et. all, are all members of the Associated Press and buys news from them, in addition to publishing their own news from them. The Associated Press consists of 1700 newspapers and 5000 television and radio broadcasters. It's very old and very large. The AP regularly censors and pulls stories at the government's request. It's truly an awful organization.

Check out these articles about AP censorship in favor of the government:

http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/mal/mal_08presscensorsfacts.html
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/a-study-of-bias-in-the-associated-press
http://www.infowars.com/articles/immigration/nc_press_censoring_immigration.htm
http://gawker.com/5294026/is-the-associated-press-aiding-iranian-censorship
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1089
http://www.alipac.us/article-910-thread-1-0.html

Also:

"I have appointed Byron Price, Executive News Editor of the Associated Press, to be Director of Censorship, responsible directly to the President." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt (source)



tl;dr

See: To anti-Fox News people.

The only alternative to Fox News is government censorship. Fox News should be praised, not demonized.
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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2011, 06:55:49 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 09, 2011, 06:44:02 PM
The only alternative to Fox News is government censorship. Fox News should be praised, not demonized.

Quote from: Vindictus on September 09, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Another good example is when Fox attacked the nudity in Mass Effect, calling it hardcore pornography.

I will demonize anything that is prude enough to call side boob and sexual insinuation "hardcore pornography". They are the conservative grandparents of the news world and I'm tired of their senile ways.

Watch the BBC News.
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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2011, 07:35:29 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 09, 2011, 06:44:02 PM
Check out these articles about AP censorship in favor of the government:

http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/mal/mal_08presscensorsfacts.html
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/a-study-of-bias-in-the-associated-press
http://www.infowars.com/articles/immigration/nc_press_censoring_immigration.htm
http://gawker.com/5294026/is-the-associated-press-aiding-iranian-censorship
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1089
http://www.alipac.us/article-910-thread-1-0.html

I'm not going to bother going through them all one by one, but several of the "issues" raised in those articles are paranoid nonsense, others are trivial complaints about minor details being left out of articles, and still others are criticisms of the media in general (including Fox), not just the AP.  What few valid points there are come nowhere near the level of bias, political bullshit, and general lack of ethics practiced by Fox.
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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2011, 12:26:05 AM »
Quote from: rooster on September 09, 2011, 06:55:49 PM
I will demonize anything that is prude enough to call side boob and sexual insinuation "hardcore pornography". They are the conservative grandparents of the news world and I'm tired of their senile ways.

Watch the BBC News.

That's from an editorial and has nothing to do with their news reporting. You're watching a talk show they use to fill in the gaps of their programming. Talk shows shouldn't be confused with news. When you're watching Bill O'Riley you're not watching a news show. You're watching an editorial where he sits down and gives his opinion on things. That's a completely different animal than the Fox 10 O'Clock News.

The fact is that Fox News has superior news reporting than its competitors. They're the only ones who refuse to submit to the tyranny of government censorship.
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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2011, 09:27:51 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 10, 2011, 12:26:05 AM
Quote from: rooster on September 09, 2011, 06:55:49 PM
I will demonize anything that is prude enough to call side boob and sexual insinuation "hardcore pornography". They are the conservative grandparents of the news world and I'm tired of their senile ways.

Watch the BBC News.

Uh, that's from an editorial and has nothing to do with their news reporting. You're watching a talk show they use to fill in the gaps of their programming. Talk shows shouldn't be confused with news. When you're watching Bill O'Riley you're not watching a news show. You're watching an editorial where he sits down and gives his opinion on things. That's a completely different animal than the Fox 10 O'Clock News.

The fact is that Fox News has superior news reporting than its competitors. They're the only ones who refuse to submit to the tyranny of government censorship.

Yeah. They only submit to the party censorship.
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2011, 10:52:15 AM »
lol at Tom's trolling.  Epic as usual.

Never mind that when Bush was in office Fox pundits cried treason at the faintest criticism of his administration and now that a Democrat is in office the same pundits are doing those sorts of things to the nth degree.

I too first caught on to the fact that FNC was nothing more than a tool of propaganda for the conservatives by reading Al Franken's book.
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2011, 03:04:51 PM »
I didn't really pay much attention to FOX until they started the Tea Party. That's really what made me dislike them.
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2011, 03:29:50 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on September 10, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
I didn't really pay much attention to FOX until they started the Tea Party. That's really what made me dislike them.

Are you sure Fox didn't just jump on it when it looked like something they should be involved with?
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2011, 03:51:26 PM »
Well, I don't mean they literally started the Tea Party, but they promoted it. It probably wouldn't have become so influential if they hadn't freely advertized and promoted the rallies.
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2011, 05:44:50 PM »
Fox hypes up lots of right-wing movements that don't deserve serious media coverage.  A recent example would be the birthers.  They provide similarly biased coverage for any allegation or investigation concerning a Democratic president or presidential candidate, no matter how groundless the charges.  Filegate, Whitewater, John Kerry's military record, Bill Ayers, ACORN, etc.
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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2011, 06:58:40 PM »
Again, that stuff is from editorials, not the news. Fox News's news programs are the 10/11 O'Clock Fox Nightly News and the Fox Morning News. Fox's news broadcasts are impartial and do not contain opinions of the editors.

The O'Riley Factor with Bill O'Rilley and the other talk shows are editorials. When you tune in to those talk shows you are watching editorials, not the news. An editorial is the opinion of the editor or commentator. Of course it's going to be biased in favor of the editor's opinion. That's why you're tuning in. An editorial is supposed to be biased. That's what an opinion is.

You don't think the comics section in your local news paper is "the news," do you? The comics are another form of editorial. You're reading the comics for the opinions and views of the cartoonist.

Fox News' news segments are pristine and unbiased. They do not submit to government tyranny or censor news for the government like other disreputable news organizations. They are not part of the Associated Press empire of censorship. Fox News is the sole and only beacon of freedom and truth in America.
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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2011, 07:31:47 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 09, 2011, 06:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sean on September 09, 2011, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 09, 2011, 06:25:01 PM
Fox News and the Associated Press are the only two major sources of news in the United States.

Fox News is the only news source which isn't corrupted. They actually report the news. The news they present is the news they've gathered themselves, not something they bought from a shadow organization controlled by the government. Fox does not censor their material at government request. Fox News reports the news in full and without censorship. The editorial opinions and editorial segments may be biased, but that's what an editorial opinion is.

The rest of them, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, et. all, are all members of the Associated Press and buys news from them, in addition to publishing their own news from them. The Associated Press consists of 1700 newspapers and 5000 television and radio broadcasters. It's very old and very large. The AP regularly censors and pulls stories at the government's request. It's truly an awful organization.

Check out these articles about AP censorship in favor of the government:

http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/mal/mal_08presscensorsfacts.html
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/a-study-of-bias-in-the-associated-press
http://www.infowars.com/articles/immigration/nc_press_censoring_immigration.htm
http://gawker.com/5294026/is-the-associated-press-aiding-iranian-censorship
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1089
http://www.alipac.us/article-910-thread-1-0.html

Also:

"I have appointed Byron Price, Executive News Editor of the Associated Press, to be Director of Censorship, responsible directly to the President." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt (source)



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See: To anti-Fox News people.

The only alternative to Fox News is government censorship. Fox News should be praised, not demonized.

Implying censoryship by the rich is better than censorship by the government.

No thank you.


P.S. is Ben Franklin really the most knowledgeable person on what is happening today?
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2011, 10:53:10 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 10, 2011, 06:58:40 PM
They do not submit to government tyranny or censor news for the government

Quote from: Tausami on September 10, 2011, 09:27:51 AM
Yeah. They only submit to the party censorship.
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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2011, 11:03:37 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 10, 2011, 06:58:40 PM
Again, that stuff is from editorials, not the news. Fox News's news programs are the 10/11 O'Clock Fox Nightly News and the Fox Morning News. Fox's news broadcasts are impartial and do not contain opinions of the editors.

The O'Riley Factor with Bill O'Rilley and the other talk shows are editorials. When you tune in to those talk shows you are watching editorials, not the news. An editorial is the opinion of the editor or commentator. Of course it's going to be biased in favor of the editor's opinion. That's why you're tuning in. An editorial is supposed to be biased. That's what an opinion is.

You don't think the comics section in your local news paper is "the news," do you? The comics are another form of editorial. You're reading the comics for the opinions and views of the cartoonist.

Fox News' news segments are pristine and unbiased. They do not submit to government tyranny or censor news for the government like other disreputable news organizations. They are not part of the Associated Press empire of censorship. Fox News is the sole and only beacon of freedom and truth in America.

Fox news use video manipulation to make a republican rally appear bigger.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911110019

How can you not trust NASA for this type of reason, but sing the praise of Fox News? 
Hypocrisy.
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Re: To anti-Fox News people.
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2011, 02:13:00 AM »
Quote from: General Disarray on September 10, 2011, 10:53:10 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 10, 2011, 06:58:40 PM
They do not submit to government tyranny or censor news for the government

Quote from: Tausami on September 10, 2011, 09:27:51 AM
Yeah. They only submit to the party censorship.

Where has Fox censored its news broadcasts?

Talk Shows like the O'Rilley Factor isn't "the news." Fox sitcoms such as The Simpsons aren't "the news." The Tonight Show with Jay Leno isn't "the news".

All of the above comment on current events, but they are not the news. They are not news segments.

Quote from: Moon squirter on September 10, 2011, 11:03:37 PM
Fox news use video manipulation to make a republican rally appear bigger.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911110019

How can you not trust NASA for this type of reason, but sing the praise of Fox News? 
Hypocrisy.

Is Sean Hannity's fox show the Fox 10 O'Clock News, or is it his own personal editorial talk show that he has personal reign over?

Editorials aren't "the news." Comic Strips aren't "the news".

It's not my fault that you don't know the difference between a news show and an editorial. I've explained it to you guys in this thread several times now. If you have trouble understanding simple concepts, don't post.
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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2011, 05:56:00 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 11, 2011, 02:13:00 AM
Quote from: Moon squirter on September 10, 2011, 11:03:37 PM
Fox news use video manipulation to make a republican rally appear bigger.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911110019

How can you not trust NASA for this type of reason, but sing the praise of Fox News? 
Hypocrisy.

Is Sean Hannity's fox show the Fox 10 O'Clock News, or is it his own personal editorial talk show that he has personal reign over?

Editorials aren't "the news." Comic Strips aren't "the news".

It's not my fault that you don't know the difference between a news show and an editorial. I've explained it to you guys in this thread several times now. If you have trouble understanding simple concepts, don't post.

Ok, let me use your own reasoning on this:
If FN have been found out to doctor a video sequence purporting to be fact (we're not just talking simple bias, but visual manipulation), how can you trust and respect their news output?

It's not my fault that you are recommending an "untrustworthy" source. I'm just trying to help.

Lastly, Sean Hannity does not control the final output of his FN show. He is merely employed by the corporation.
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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2011, 08:11:32 AM »
Tom, nobody's talking about the local nightly news broadcast when we refer to Fox News except for you.  ::)
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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2011, 08:17:11 AM »
I figured out they were corrupt long ago when they started really pressing those "IS EVERYONE ON THE CROSS TOWN BUS A RAPIST?????? FIND OUT AT 11" segments.  They like to shock and scare their audience into thinking they have the revelations about how sick the world is, making it look worse than it really is for the ratings.  That's all Fox in general gives a shit about, is money and ratings.  This proof is in all the great shows they cancel as well.
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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2011, 11:16:36 AM »
I got all caught up in indignation as well over that business until I dug around. You probably know a lot more about this essentially Tampa story than I do but it still leaves me wondering who got snookered:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_1_38/ai_n16439690/?tag=mantle_skin;content
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