Centripetal Acceleration and Weight

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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2011, 09:20:57 PM »
If the Material on the Earth, which includes us, doesn't have gravity, then how can it be attracted by gravity.

Even if the stars do have gravity, if the Earth doesn't then the stars can't explain why we are lighter when further away from the ground.





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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2011, 02:26:30 AM »
In the UA model of FET, the "gravity" at all points on the Earth should be identical, don't you agree?

The stars have a slight pulling sensation. This would be slightly more paramount at the top of a mountain than in Death Valley.

LOL a few months ago your argument was that g does not vary across the Earth and there is no such thing as gravity, only UA. You defended that title to no end, until now of course. It's just whatever suits you isn't it.
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2011, 11:54:57 AM »
Have you seen or experienced any interaction between the stars and matter on earth?

Experiments have shown that when you move towards the stars the level of g changes and you are pulled slightly upwards. This is evidence that the stars have a slight pulling sensation.

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Does gravity only exist when it is convenient to your argument?

I'm not calling it gravity. It's gravitation.
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2011, 12:07:46 PM »
So the fact that the level of g increases as you move towards the earth is evidence that the earth has a pulling sensation?
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2011, 01:02:08 PM »
No, if the phenomenon exists it is evidence that the farther removed you are from celestial gravitation, the weaker the effect.
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2011, 01:26:47 PM »
So the fact that the level of g increases as you move towards the earth is evidence that the earth has a pulling sensation?

When I step off a chair and study the earth's surface carefully I can see that the earth rises upwards towards me. This is evidence that the earth is rising upwards.

When I take a gravimeter to the top of a mountain and become closer to the stars, I can see that the level of g lessens ever so slightly. This is evidence that the stars have a slight pull.


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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2011, 01:40:26 PM »
I would expect there to be more g on a mountain, due to the mountain's mass.
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2011, 01:48:02 PM »
So the fact that the level of g increases as you move towards the earth is evidence that the earth has a pulling sensation?

When I step off a chair and study the earth's surface carefully I can see that the earth rises upwards towards me. This is evidence that the earth is rising upwards.

When I take a gravimeter to the top of a mountain and become closer to the stars, I can see that the level of g lessens ever so slightly. This is evidence that the stars have a slight pull.


It happens when you go towards the earth. This is evidence that the earth are the cause. Also, changes in density beneath the surface of the earth cause changes in the local g. This is a very important concept used by surveyors. For example, one way to survey for oil deposits is to measure the local g around an area and find places where g is lower, as this means lower density mass underneath (like an oil deposit).

Here's some reading:
http://books.google.com/books?id=NlKpOdEqGY4C&lpg=PA51&dq=gravimetric%20survey&pg=PA53#v=onepage&q=gravimetric%20survey&f=false

Why can surveyors use gravimeters  to map out the density of underground material?

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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2011, 01:51:34 PM »
Tom, have you done calculations on the stars' gravitational pull? How do you know the stars produce just enough gravitation to appear to support RET?
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2011, 05:10:50 PM »
When I step off a chair and study the earth's surface carefully I can see that the earth rises upwards towards me. This is evidence that the earth is rising upwards.
When I observe a plane flying away from me, if I study it carefully I can see that it's getting smaller.  This is evidence that things get smaller the further they are away from me. 

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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2011, 06:35:03 PM »
So the fact that the level of g increases as you move towards the earth is evidence that the earth has a pulling sensation?

When I step off a chair and study the earth's surface carefully I can see that the earth rises upwards towards me. This is evidence that the earth is rising upwards.

When I take a gravimeter to the top of a mountain and become closer to the stars, I can see that the level of g lessens ever so slightly. This is evidence that the stars have a slight pull.


It happens when you go towards the earth. This is evidence that the earth are the cause. Also, changes in density beneath the surface of the earth cause changes in the local g. This is a very important concept used by surveyors. For example, one way to survey for oil deposits is to measure the local g around an area and find places where g is lower, as this means lower density mass underneath (like an oil deposit).

Here's some reading:
http://books.google.com/books?id=NlKpOdEqGY4C&lpg=PA51&dq=gravimetric%20survey&pg=PA53#v=onepage&q=gravimetric%20survey&f=false

Why can surveyors use gravimeters  to map out the density of underground material?

They're mapping out the gravitation of the stars, not the gravity of the earth.

Even so, such surveying techniques have not proven reliable. Snake oil companies have been trying to sell expensive gravimeters to oil and mining companies for decades now. When you read the literature they usually point you to read about a trial in the 1930's where a gravimeter supposedly found an oil field. And, of course, this fortune-finding magic device can be yours for the low low price of several million dollars.
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2011, 07:23:25 PM »
So the fact that the level of g increases as you move towards the earth is evidence that the earth has a pulling sensation?

When I step off a chair and study the earth's surface carefully I can see that the earth rises upwards towards me. This is evidence that the earth is rising upwards.

When I take a gravimeter to the top of a mountain and become closer to the stars, I can see that the level of g lessens ever so slightly. This is evidence that the stars have a slight pull.

So you are a hypocrite, I see.
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2011, 08:50:43 PM »
No one has answered my original question... All I got was some mumbling about the density of the earth and Tom talking about stars. Can anybody on this forum answer a question? Or is everyone too afraid to admit they're wrong, so they just spew out random ideas just to confuse people?

The RET esplains perfectly what goes on, while the FET has all of these holes that are being bandaged and patched with new "theories." Whenever something is wrong with the FET, then, "Woooah wait a second!! The FET isn't reallllly complete and it could be UA or bendy light or stars or the earths density or this or that or..."

Make up your minds and answer our questions like normal human beings. I feel like I'm talking to a four year-old who constantly asks, "Why?" after every answer no matter how satisfying it is.

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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2011, 02:37:59 AM »
They're mapping out the gravitation of the stars, not the gravity of the earth.
They're mapping out the gravitation of the stars? You just said that as we move closer to the heavens, g decreases. Why is it that g varies even on a level surface equidistant from the stars?
RE's gravity theory makes perfect sense in this scenario.
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2011, 06:17:49 AM »
Tom, have you done calculations on the stars' gravitational pull? How do you know the stars produce just enough gravitation to appear to support RET?
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2011, 08:14:36 AM »
if u use the fact thast the stars are aprox 3100 miles from sea level you can estimate how strong thier pull is by calculating the difference in pull from various altitudes

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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2011, 09:34:02 AM »
if u use the fact thast the stars are aprox 3100 miles from sea level you can estimate how strong thier pull is by calculating the difference in pull from various altitudes
I've done this before but John Davis didn't want to pursue it.
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2011, 09:37:54 AM »
If you look at the sky (a very zetetic thing to do) you will notice a strong band of stars, popularly called 'the milky way'.  This band traces a path across the sky roughly perpendicular (close enough to give the idea - there is a wobble that we will ignore here for simplicity) to the equator.  This model shows the RET interpretation of the observed movement of the stars and constellations across the sky: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/fenertyb/solsysGC.html



On A FET model, the milky way would inscribe an arm rotating around the North Pole (again, roughly. I've inscribed the path on the FET map, I hope no one minds):


Flat_earth-1 by max_wedge, on Flickr

Since the bulk of stars in the night sky are in the milky way, and if it's true that stars exert a gravitational effect on Earth, then you should expect to see gravity readings change from minute to minute as the Milky Way revolves around the North Pole.

Now in case anyone hasn't noticed it, this model is not exact, otherwise we'd only see the milkyway at night for half the year.  Taking into account the 23 degree tilt of the earth to the solar plane and the 60 degree tilt of the solar system to the galaxy, and the changing tilt of the seasons, in practice the South Pole is tilted more towards the galactic plane than the north pole, and most nights the galactic plane (milky way) is visible to most people on earth).  However as I said this is a simplification.   The gyrations of earth in the RET model fit perfectly with observations.

On the FET model, there has been no attempt to explain the odd path of the Milky Way through the night sky.

Nevertheless, through observation, we can see that it does inscribe a path regardless of which model, if either, explains it's machinations best.  And if the stars exert gravitational affect we ought to be able to measure the path of the Milky Way simply by observing the gravitational measurement at various points of the Earth - points that correlate with the Milky Way overhead should read weaker than points that correlate with areas of the sky that contain far fewer stars..

Of course they don't since such an affect would be immediately obvious to Earth gravity researchers.

Here is a gravity map of the Earth.  The gravity field does not change hour to hour and it does not match the Milky Way.  This image is produced by a NASA satellite, so I know what most FE'ers will say to that....well what I say, is NASA would have to model this accurately otherwise ground measurements would disagree and eventually the conspiracy would come unstuck.



So what this evidence implies is that in a FET model, Stars cannot explain the lesser gravitational pull at height.
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2011, 02:35:31 PM »
Here is a gravity map of the Earth.  The gravity field does not change hour to hour...

The gravitational field does change hour to hour, and it is measured, and even globularist scientists attribute it to the celestial objects. Instead of talking down to me and assuming I'm not intelligent enough to know what I'm talking about, or formed my opinions in an ignorant vacuum without actually researching the topics, perhaps you could spend some of your own damned time researching the subject so you don't waste both of our times.
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2011, 05:19:51 PM »
Here is a gravity map of the Earth.  The gravity field does not change hour to hour...

The gravitational field does change hour to hour, and it is measured, and even globularist scientists attribute it to the celestial objects. Instead of talking down to me and assuming I'm not intelligent enough to know what I'm talking about, or formed my opinions in an ignorant vacuum without actually researching the topics, perhaps you could spend some of your own damned time researching the subject so you don't waste both of our times.
Off Topic: I wasn't talking to you Mr sensitive, I was speaking to the topic.  BTW, I've spent a considerable amount of time in my life researching astronomy, being as it's one of my more specific interests, and I'll thank you not to treat me as a novice.  Anytime an FE'er tries to bring up the absurd notion that NASA is managing a massive conspiracy that cancels out any high quality observable evidence for a round earth, I could by your standards complain that I am being treated like an idiot.    Anytime someone spouts "read enag" rather than responding to valid criticism of FET with a respectful response, even if to say "we haven't yet explained that", I could take offence.  But I don't.  I just go off and try to find more evidence to clarify my points.

ON Topic:  I'll grant you the gravity field changes hour to hour, it was never my intention to infer that it didn't, but the context of my post is 'do the stars inscribe a gravitational path on the surface of the earth as they move across the sky and do these parallel the recorded changes in Earth gravity'.  I'll admit my wording about gravity was unintentionally misleading.

Earth's gravity changes due to the Sun and the Moon, this is well known and recorded, you don't need satellites to measure that.   And the planets in our own solar system even have a measurable affect, though quite small relative to the Sun and the Moon.  However any affect the stars have, in particular the dense band of stars that make up the Milky Way, is much smaller than this, and variations in gravity on the Earth's surface would be many orders of magnitude greater than this affect.  The law of gravity follows an inverse square relationship, so that large bodies near the earth have significantly more affect than anything distant.

I have never, in all my reading or research come across any material that indicates that the stars pull on us as we climb higher on a mountain measurably reducing our weight comparative to local gravitational affects.   Infact if they did it still wouldn't fit the FET model, because you still have to account for other gravity changes that don't vary with height (and don't match the travel of stars through the sky). 

So rather than getting petulant, how about you show us the research that demonstrates this change of the gravitational field attributed by globularists that is significant enough compared to local gravitational affects to explain the reduced gravity at height?



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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2011, 10:07:37 PM »
Here is a gravity map of the Earth.  The gravity field does not change hour to hour...

The gravitational field does change hour to hour, and it is measured, and even globularist scientists attribute it to the celestial objects. Instead of talking down to me and assuming I'm not intelligent enough to know what I'm talking about, or formed my opinions in an ignorant vacuum without actually researching the topics, perhaps you could spend some of your own damned time researching the subject so you don't waste both of our times.
I'll grant you the gravity field changes hour to hour, it was never my intention to infer that it didn't, ...

My apologies; when you wrote: "If it's true that stars exert a gravitational effect on Earth, then you should expect to see gravity readings change from minute to minute as the Milky Way revolves around the North Pole," I assumed that you were inferring to me (or perhaps less educated readers) that it does not in fact do so.

And that when you wrote as a follow-up: "Here is a gravity map of the Earth.  The gravity field does not change hour to hour," I assumed you meant to propose that the gravity field does not change hour-to-hour. 


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Earth's gravity changes due to the Sun and the Moon, this is well known and recorded, you don't need satellites to measure that.   And the planets in our own solar system even have a measurable affect, though quite small relative to the Sun and the Moon.


Obviously then, the celestial bodies are measurably affecting what we perceive as "local g." And assuming the inverse-square law applies to celestial gravitation, we can safely assume that our proximity to the heavens (altitude) affects the local measurement of "g". So we can likewise safely assume that:
If the phenomenon exists it is evidence that the farther removed you are from celestial gravitation, the weaker the effect.

Given that local g varies from hour-to-hour (not to mention variations due to instrument drift and other forms of experimental error, nor even to mention the famed "I don't know" anomalies), I am at a loss as to why I am supposed to bow down at the feet of the revered "gravity map." 

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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2011, 10:20:29 PM »
Here is a gravity map of the Earth.  The gravity field does not change hour to hour...

The gravitational field does change hour to hour, and it is measured, and even globularist scientists attribute it to the celestial objects. Instead of talking down to me and assuming I'm not intelligent enough to know what I'm talking about, or formed my opinions in an ignorant vacuum without actually researching the topics, perhaps you could spend some of your own damned time researching the subject so you don't waste both of our times.
I'll grant you the gravity field changes hour to hour, it was never my intention to infer that it didn't, ...

My apologies; when you wrote: "If it's true that stars exert a gravitational effect on Earth, then you should expect to see gravity readings change from minute to minute as the Milky Way revolves around the North Pole," I assumed that you were inferring to me (or perhaps less educated readers) that it does not in fact do so.

And that when you wrote as a follow-up: "Here is a gravity map of the Earth.  The gravity field does not change hour to hour," I assumed you meant to propose that the gravity field does not change hour-to-hour. 


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Earth's gravity changes due to the Sun and the Moon, this is well known and recorded, you don't need satellites to measure that.   And the planets in our own solar system even have a measurable affect, though quite small relative to the Sun and the Moon.


Obviously then, the celestial bodies are measurably affecting what we perceive as "local g." And assuming the inverse-square law applies to celestial gravitation, we can safely assume that our proximity to the heavens (altitude) affects the local measurement of "g". So we can likewise safely assume that:
If the phenomenon exists it is evidence that the farther removed you are from celestial gravitation, the weaker the effect.

Given that local g varies from hour-to-hour (not to mention variations due to instrument drift and other forms of experimental error, nor even to mention the famed "I don't know" anomalies), I am at a loss as to why I am supposed to bow down at the feet of the revered "gravity map."


Sun/Moon ≠ distant stars.

No evidence that distant stars noticeably  affect us gravitationally.

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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2011, 10:26:26 PM »
If the phenomenon exists it is evidence that the farther removed you are from celestial gravitation, the weaker the effect.

I have no where invoked the stars as the sole-source of the variation of g at altitude, though they are of course included as "celestial" objects.
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2011, 10:34:47 PM »
If the phenomenon exists it is evidence that the farther removed you are from celestial gravitation, the weaker the effect.

I have no where invoked the stars as the sole-source of the variation of g at altitude, though they are of course included as "celestial" objects.

such as... planets? asteroids? comets? or ...?

Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2011, 03:15:00 AM »
Here is a gravity map of the Earth.  The gravity field does not change hour to hour...

The gravitational field does change hour to hour, and it is measured, and even globularist scientists attribute it to the celestial objects. Instead of talking down to me and assuming I'm not intelligent enough to know what I'm talking about, or formed my opinions in an ignorant vacuum without actually researching the topics, perhaps you could spend some of your own damned time researching the subject so you don't waste both of our times.
I'll grant you the gravity field changes hour to hour, it was never my intention to infer that it didn't, ...

My apologies; when you wrote: "If it's true that stars exert a gravitational effect on Earth, then you should expect to see gravity readings change from minute to minute as the Milky Way revolves around the North Pole," I assumed that you were inferring to me (or perhaps less educated readers) that it does not in fact do so.

And that when you wrote as a follow-up: "Here is a gravity map of the Earth.  The gravity field does not change hour to hour," I assumed you meant to propose that the gravity field does not change hour-to-hour. 


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Earth's gravity changes due to the Sun and the Moon, this is well known and recorded, you don't need satellites to measure that.   And the planets in our own solar system even have a measurable affect, though quite small relative to the Sun and the Moon.


Obviously then, the celestial bodies are measurably affecting what we perceive as "local g." And assuming the inverse-square law applies to celestial gravitation, we can safely assume that our proximity to the heavens (altitude) affects the local measurement of "g". So we can likewise safely assume that:
If the phenomenon exists it is evidence that the farther removed you are from celestial gravitation, the weaker the effect.

Given that local g varies from hour-to-hour (not to mention variations due to instrument drift and other forms of experimental error, nor even to mention the famed "I don't know" anomalies), I am at a loss as to why I am supposed to bow down at the feet of the revered "gravity map."

I admited I had glossed over the fact that gravity changes hour to hour. I am aware that it changes even if the way I presented my case made it seem like I was discounting the changes.

My central point stands, which is that the stars ought to inscribe a path in the gravity map as they travel across the sky.  This affect would match the path of the stars, the affects you mention do not.   The hourly and minute changes to the gravitational field you mention are explainable by density of the earth at a given point, but not by the positions of the stars at a given time.  Once all the non-celestial gravitational forces are accounted for, there is no path inscribed by the stars that can account for the reduced gravity on top of a mountain.  Even if we allow that the gravitational affect of the stars is spread out and averaged over the surface of the earth, this would still not affect tops of mountains measurably less than ground at sea level.  The stars are just too far away.

Again I ask you, since you call upon globularists to support your argument, show me where globularists mention celestial gravity tugging at the earth as anything that comes close to explaining the level of reduction in gravity at the height of a mountain.  Show us the figures, since you seem aware of this research.

What does affect local gravity, and what is mapped out, and does have a significant affect, is the path of the Moon and the Sun.  But the travel of the moon and the sun will make gravity stronger on the mountain if they are aligned behind the mountain (ie on the opposite side of the earth to the mountain) and in fact cancels out the centripetal force on the side of the planet opposite the sun.  This has been verified and mapped out by geophysicists.
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2011, 12:52:04 PM »
  The hourly and minute changes to the gravitational field you mention are explainable by density of the earth at a given point, but not by the positions of the stars at a given time. 
The density of the round earth changes hourly and by the minute? What a fascinating world you've all invented. Far simpler to accord these changes to the celestial bodies, but I understand your fanatical defense of globularism.

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  Even if we allow that the gravitational affect of the stars is spread out and averaged over the surface of the earth, this would still not affect tops of mountains measurably less than ground at sea level.  The stars are just too far away.
Stars are only a few thousand miles away. Your adherence to the myth that the stars are (if you forgive the term) "astronomically" far away is fatally affecting your argument.

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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2011, 12:55:27 PM »
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  Even if we allow that the gravitational affect of the stars is spread out and averaged over the surface of the earth, this would still not affect tops of mountains measurably less than ground at sea level.  The stars are just too far away.
Stars are only a few thousand miles away. Your adherence to the myth that the stars are (if you forgive the term) "astronomically" far away is fatally affecting your argument.
Jeez, Ski, how much mass do these stars have?
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2011, 01:04:07 PM »
I have never measured the mass of a star.
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2011, 01:05:48 PM »
I have never measured the mass of a star.
So how do you know that the stars produce just enough gravitational pull to appear to support RET? Not very zetetic of you.
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Re: Centripetal Acceleration and Weight
« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2011, 01:08:29 PM »
I have never measured the mass of a star.
So how do you know that the stars produce just enough gravitational pull to appear to support RET? Not very zetetic of you.

I'll assume you meant FET but that in your zeal to destroy my belief system you've become more eager than wise.
How do you know that the constant variation of local g is just enough to be explained away by globularism?
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