Why Relativity is False

In this short note I strengthen the Barn Door Paradox to the Barn Door Antimony, this disproves Einsteins special theory of relativity and should be of interest to those natural philosophers in search of truth rather than prestige and popularity gained from nonsense-publications.

It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a bar heated uniformly cools uniformly throughout. The heat equation may be used to see that it cools with exponentially, but this is already more technical than necessary, the physical law I need for this demonstration is that one end does not cool faster than the other.

In Einsteins relativity book he defines the "Postulate of Relativity", originally due to Gallileo:

• The Principle of Relativity – The laws by which the states of physical systems undergo change are not affected, whether these changes of state be referred to the one or the other of two systems in uniform translatory motion relative to each other

According to this, and the constancy of lightspeed various equations for spacetime transformations are developed. According to these a man running (at something like 99.999% the speed of light) while carrying a 20 meter bar may run though a 10 meter barn, have both doors shut then opened quickly (according to the barn doors reference frame) then run outside. This paradox is resolved by realizing that simultaneity is relative, according to the runner the doors were shut at different times. There is no contradiction in this, as unintuitive as it may be.

But I ask you to consider a heated bar, glowing white hot as he begins to run: What color will it be as he enters the barn? According to the running it may be yellow hot as he enters and red hot as he leaves. From the reference frame of the barn door, the bar will be red hot at one end and yellow at the other. This violates the consequence of the heat equation earlier mentioned, a physical law. Thus The Principle of Relativity is contradicted. By this Gedankenexperiment we conclude that relativity is false.

Have you conducted this experiment yourself?

Have you conducted this experiment yourself?

It is a thought experiment or in german Gedankenexperiment, it is performed in the mind. Purely by these thought experiments, Maxwell revolutionized the understanding of light and Einstein of space. It is fitting then, that his theory would also be destroyed by one. To actually perform the experiment is impossible due to the massive speeds needed.

In this short note I strengthen the Barn Door Paradox to the Barn Door Antimony, this disproves Einsteins special theory of relativity and should be of interest to those natural philosophers in search of truth rather than prestige and popularity gained from nonsense-publications.

It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a bar heated uniformly cools uniformly throughout. The heat equation may be used to see that it cools with exponentially, but this is already more technical than necessary, the physical law I need for this demonstration is that one end does not cool faster than the other.

In Einsteins relativity book he defines the "Postulate of Relativity", originally due to Gallileo:

• The Principle of Relativity – The laws by which the states of physical systems undergo change are not affected, whether these changes of state be referred to the one or the other of two systems in uniform translatory motion relative to each other

According to this, and the constancy of lightspeed various equations for spacetime transformations are developed. According to these a man running (at something like 99.999% the speed of light) while carrying a 20 meter bar may run though a 10 meter barn, have both doors shut then opened quickly (according to the barn doors reference frame) then run outside. This paradox is resolved by realizing that simultaneity is relative, according to the runner the doors were shut at different times. There is no contradiction in this, as unintuitive as it may be.

But I ask you to consider a heated bar, glowing white hot as he begins to run: What color will it be as he enters the barn? According to the running it may be yellow hot as he enters and red hot as he leaves. From the reference frame of the barn door, the bar will be red hot at one end and yellow at the other. This violates the consequence of the heat equation earlier mentioned, a physical law. Thus The Principle of Relativity is contradicted. By this Gedankenexperiment we conclude that relativity is false.

Why would it cool down? If anything it would be hotter due to friction with the air.

Quote from: three-dimensional-world on August 17, 2011, 10:53:45 AM

In this short note I strengthen the Barn Door Paradox to the Barn Door Antimony, this disproves Einsteins special theory of relativity and should be of interest to those natural philosophers in search of truth rather than prestige and popularity gained from nonsense-publications.

It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a bar heated uniformly cools uniformly throughout. The heat equation may be used to see that it cools with exponentially, but this is already more technical than necessary, the physical law I need for this demonstration is that one end does not cool faster than the other.

In Einsteins relativity book he defines the "Postulate of Relativity", originally due to Gallileo:

• The Principle of Relativity – The laws by which the states of physical systems undergo change are not affected, whether these changes of state be referred to the one or the other of two systems in uniform translatory motion relative to each other

According to this, and the constancy of lightspeed various equations for spacetime transformations are developed. According to these a man running (at something like 99.999% the speed of light) while carrying a 20 meter bar may run though a 10 meter barn, have both doors shut then opened quickly (according to the barn doors reference frame) then run outside. This paradox is resolved by realizing that simultaneity is relative, according to the runner the doors were shut at different times. There is no contradiction in this, as unintuitive as it may be.

But I ask you to consider a heated bar, glowing white hot as he begins to run: What color will it be as he enters the barn? According to the running it may be yellow hot as he enters and red hot as he leaves. From the reference frame of the barn door, the bar will be red hot at one end and yellow at the other. This violates the consequence of the heat equation earlier mentioned, a physical law. Thus The Principle of Relativity is contradicted. By this Gedankenexperiment we conclude that relativity is false.

Why would it cool down? If anything it would be hotter due to friction with the air.

Do it in a vacuum

Quote from: General Disarray on August 17, 2011, 11:09:38 AM

Have you conducted this experiment yourself?

It is a thought experiment or in german Gedankenexperiment, it is performed in the mind. Purely by these thought experiments, Maxwell revolutionized the understanding of light and Einstein of space. It is fitting then, that his theory would also be destroyed by one. To actually perform the experiment is impossible due to the massive speeds needed.

How can you be sure this is what will happen if you do not actually conduct the experiment?

You're right, one impossible-to-measure thought experiment contradicts the findings of real experiments. That's how science works!!!!11!!one!!

Aristotle's thought experiment "proved" that heavy objects fall faster than lighter ones.

Aristotle's thought experiment "proved" that heavy objects fall faster than lighter ones.

What is the point you're making?

Quote from: thefireproofmatch on August 18, 2011, 01:24:22 PM

Aristotle's thought experiment "proved" that heavy objects fall faster than lighter ones.

What is the point you're making?

Thought experiments are about as useful as the fluff in one's bellybutton.

Berny
Thinking about dinner will not feed me

According to this, and the constancy of lightspeed various equations for spacetime transformations are developed. According to these a man running (at something like 99.999% the speed of light) while carrying a 20 meter bar may run though a 10 meter barn, have both doors shut then opened quickly (according to the barn doors reference frame) then run outside. This paradox is resolved by realizing that simultaneity is relative, according to the runner the doors were shut at different times. There is no contradiction in this, as unintuitive as it may be.

this is correct for the moving FOR. in the stationary FOR the paradox is resolved by the length contraction of the bar. in the stationary FOR the bar is shorter than the barn, else this won't work. the doors are only kept shut for the time the bar is completely inside the barn.

But I ask you to consider a heated bar, glowing white hot as he begins to run: What color will it be as he enters the barn? According to the running it may be yellow hot as he enters and red hot as he leaves. From the reference frame of the barn door, the bar will be red hot at one end and yellow at the other. This violates the consequence of the heat equation earlier mentioned, a physical law. Thus The Principle of Relativity is contradicted. By this Gedankenexperiment we conclude that relativity is false.

both ends of the short bar (lenght contraction!) are yellow when the bar enters the barn. when the whole bar is inside the barn the doors are shut for a short time. during that time the bar cools down and both ends are red when the doors are opened again so that the bar can leave the barn. there will be no contradiction to the heat equation.

In this short note I strengthen the Barn Door Paradox to the Barn Door Antimony, this disproves Einsteins special theory of relativity and should be of interest to those natural philosophers in search of truth rather than prestige and popularity gained from nonsense-publications.

It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a bar heated uniformly cools uniformly throughout. The heat equation may be used to see that it cools with exponentially, but this is already more technical than necessary, the physical law I need for this demonstration is that one end does not cool faster than the other.

In Einsteins relativity book he defines the "Postulate of Relativity", originally due to Gallileo:

• The Principle of Relativity – The laws by which the states of physical systems undergo change are not affected, whether these changes of state be referred to the one or the other of two systems in uniform translatory motion relative to each other

According to this, and the constancy of lightspeed various equations for spacetime transformations are developed. According to these a man running (at something like 99.999% the speed of light) while carrying a 20 meter bar may run though a 10 meter barn, have both doors shut then opened quickly (according to the barn doors reference frame) then run outside. This paradox is resolved by realizing that simultaneity is relative, according to the runner the doors were shut at different times. There is no contradiction in this, as unintuitive as it may be.

But I ask you to consider a heated bar, glowing white hot as he begins to run: What color will it be as he enters the barn? According to the running it may be yellow hot as he enters and red hot as he leaves. From the reference frame of the barn door, the bar will be red hot at one end and yellow at the other. This violates the consequence of the heat equation earlier mentioned, a physical law. Thus The Principle of Relativity is contradicted. By this Gedankenexperiment we conclude that relativity is false.

The problem you are having has to do with the fact that you are looking at the reference frame of only one barn door. Look from the point of view of the other one and you will realize there is no contradiction.

Did you see that the neutrino went faster than light but has matter?  The wizards(I do mean wizards) of the government have been lying to us for centuries.  Basically the point of the government is to maintain the hologram that makes the earth look round and to hide these truths from us in order to maintain control.  Does this sound familiar to anyone else?  Nazi Germany? Starbucks? Bollywood? You do the math.

The wizards(I do mean wizards) of the government have been lying to us for centuries.

All it takes is a skeptical viewpoint and some careful thought to realize the lies.

Exactly, but people are so blinded because of the mind control

Did you see that the neutrino went faster than light but has matter?  The wizards(I do mean wizards) of the government have been lying to us for centuries.  Basically the point of the government is to maintain the hologram that makes the earth look round and to hide these truths from us in order to maintain control.  Does this sound familiar to anyone else?  Nazi Germany? Starbucks? Bollywood? You do the math.

If the "wizards" are so skilled at deceiving us, why did we hear about the FTL neutrino?

because that wasn't in america

because that wasn't in america

Obviously the wizards have power over the entire population of the Earth, not just America, how else would everyone everywhere be sucked into their illusion. Their power must be slipping if they lost control of a stray ultra relativistic neutrino. The time for revolution is at hand. Gather all the neutrino's you can and I'll grab a stopwatch and a meter-stick. We have the power now...

Quote from: Around And About on August 18, 2011, 01:54:58 PM

Quote from: thefireproofmatch on August 18, 2011, 01:24:22 PM

Aristotle's thought experiment "proved" that heavy objects fall faster than lighter ones.

What is the point you're making?

Improperly structured thought experiments are about as useful as the fluff in one's bellybutton.

fixed.

I was wondering about the topic of this threat the I every thing is relative then what is absolute? I think that should be answered. The most amazing thing about relativity is that even time is relative.

According to relativity, light speed is absolute 

By Gedankenexperiment, I prove that you are a moron!

But I ask you to consider a heated bar, glowing white hot as he begins to run: What color will it be as he enters the barn? According to the running it may be yellow hot as he enters and red hot as he leaves. From the reference frame of the barn door, the bar will be red hot at one end and yellow at the other. This violates the consequence of the heat equation earlier mentioned, a physical law. Thus The Principle of Relativity is contradicted. By this Gedankenexperiment we conclude that relativity is false.

A thermal emitter generates a Planckian spectrum of radiation, each frequency of which will be fractionally shifted in the usual way by the Doppler effect, which is frame-dependent.  I fail to see how this violates relativity.

Quote from: three-dimensional-world on August 17, 2011, 10:53:45 AM

But I ask you to consider a heated bar, glowing white hot as he begins to run: What color will it be as he enters the barn? According to the running it may be yellow hot as he enters and red hot as he leaves. From the reference frame of the barn door, the bar will be red hot at one end and yellow at the other. This violates the consequence of the heat equation earlier mentioned, a physical law. Thus The Principle of Relativity is contradicted. By this Gedankenexperiment we conclude that relativity is false.

A thermal emitter generates a Planckian spectrum of radiation, each frequency of which will be fractionally shifted in the usual way by the Doppler effect, which is frame-dependent.  I fail to see how this violates relativity.

are you saying this "Doppler effect" will somehow make is so that both observes see the bar cool uniformly?