Hard data on sun positions

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Skeleton

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Hard data on sun positions
« on: August 06, 2011, 01:31:47 PM »
I am going on holiday in a few weeks. While I am away I will have the opportunity to observe the times of sunset in different parts of the world and cross check them against those predicted by Bob Bishops nemesis, the infamous ephemeris calculators, which, according to supporters of the Willmire model, tell lies about the times at which the sun rises and sets. I will also be able to obtain exact latitude and longitude data of where I am to ensure accuracy.
The data gathered in this most zetetic of enterprises will then be presented here.
Any thoughts?
If the ultimate objective is to kill Skeleton, we should just do that next.

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Thork

Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2011, 01:57:52 PM »
I would prefer it if you would collect neutrinos that had travelled through a round earth please.

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momentia

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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2011, 02:21:15 PM »
Good luck to you skeleton, pick up photos on the way, (actually, those don't count as evidence, never mind).

I would prefer it if you would collect neutrinos that had travelled through a round earth please.

What, are the scientists running the detectors part of the conspiracy now? They must be.

Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2011, 04:03:03 PM »
Any thoughts?

Yes. You should have posted after you collected the data, not before.

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Skeleton

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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2011, 05:55:58 PM »
Any thoughts?

Yes. You should have posted after you collected the data, not before.

Why? So people can make suggestions when its too late for me to do anything with them?
If the ultimate objective is to kill Skeleton, we should just do that next.

Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2011, 05:59:07 PM »
Any thoughts?

Yes. You should have posted after you collected the data, not before.

Why? So people can make suggestions when its too late for me to do anything with them?

Suggestions for what? How to record sunset times?

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Theodolite

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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2011, 06:06:44 PM »
Any thoughts?

Yes. You should have posted after you collected the data, not before.

Why? So people can make suggestions when its too late for me to do anything with them?

Suggestions for what? How to record sunset times?


Discussing procedures with your peers before conducting research is actually a critical step. 

Imagine how silly it would be if you believed in a flat earth, and dreamed up your own tests, and conclusions, that no person who believes in a round earth considers a valid test..   oh wait, never mind
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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2011, 06:16:23 PM »
Any thoughts?

Yes. You should have posted after you collected the data, not before.

Why? So people can make suggestions when its too late for me to do anything with them?

Suggestions for what? How to record sunset times?


Discussing procedures with your peers before conducting research is actually a critical step. 


I suppose you're right. Should Skeleton record the sunset times with a pen, or a pencil?

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Theodolite

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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2011, 06:18:54 PM »
I would personally prefer digital pictures taken with his smartphone.

GPS and time stamp are handy.  Plus it would make an interesting thread
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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2011, 07:05:20 PM »
Since you will be in a Zetetic state of mind, please take time to record your observations of Earth shape and include them when you present your data. 

It will be most interesting for other Zetetics on the site to review your log notes.  Please keep in mind that others do have a great deal of experience with Zetetic processes and will know if your claims are frivolous.  You will want to respond without skewing the truth by personal wishes adversely influencing and tainting an obvious reality.   

Have a safe and enjoyable holiday!   

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Theodolite

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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2011, 07:06:58 PM »
Since you will be in a Zetetic state of mind, please take time to record your observations of Earth shape and include them when you present your data. 

It will be most interesting for other Zetetics on the site to review your log notes.  Please keep in mind that others do have a great deal of experience with Zetetic processes and will know if your claims are frivolous.  You will want to respond without skewing the truth by personal wishes adversely influencing and tainting an obvious reality.   

Have a safe and enjoyable holiday!


Very true!  Dont go implying things you cannot possibly know, like what the shape of an object is while you are standing on it
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Skeleton

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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2011, 09:21:48 AM »
I would personally prefer digital pictures taken with his smartphone.

GPS and time stamp are handy.  Plus it would make an interesting thread

I dont have a smartphone, but I do have a DSLR which might do the job. I will see if it can timestamp the pictures. I am hoping to have a clear view of the horizon on many occasions.
The flattists will, of course, not accept the pictures as evidence but hopefully they will accept my chart of results which I have written.
I am hoping that I will also be able to get results for latitude and longitude without the use of GPS, which is viewed as suspect by people who dont think properly the flattists.
If the ultimate objective is to kill Skeleton, we should just do that next.

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Theodolite

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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2011, 09:25:50 AM »
I would personally prefer digital pictures taken with his smartphone.

GPS and time stamp are handy.  Plus it would make an interesting thread

I dont have a smartphone, but I do have a DSLR which might do the job. I will see if it can timestamp the pictures. I am hoping to have a clear view of the horizon on many occasions.
The flattists will, of course, not accept the pictures as evidence but hopefully they will accept my chart of results which I have written.
I am hoping that I will also be able to get results for latitude and longitude without the use of GPS, which is viewed as suspect by people who dont think properly the flattists.

Well, they do know you, so they can either accept the pictures (which have not been out of your posession) or directly accuse you of lying
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Skeleton

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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2011, 10:30:37 AM »
I would personally prefer digital pictures taken with his smartphone.

GPS and time stamp are handy.  Plus it would make an interesting thread

I dont have a smartphone, but I do have a DSLR which might do the job. I will see if it can timestamp the pictures. I am hoping to have a clear view of the horizon on many occasions.
The flattists will, of course, not accept the pictures as evidence but hopefully they will accept my chart of results which I have written.
I am hoping that I will also be able to get results for latitude and longitude without the use of GPS, which is viewed as suspect by people who dont think properly the flattists.

Well, they do know you, so they can either accept the pictures (which have not been out of your posession) or directly accuse you of lying

I know which of those options I would put money on... btw I have discovered that its possible to get a thing that attaches to my camera so it can stamp gps data on the image too, but I dont have it, so that will have to be recorded off-image.
If the ultimate objective is to kill Skeleton, we should just do that next.

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Theodolite

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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2011, 10:34:31 AM »
Easy solution, include a sign in the picture
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Skeleton

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Re: Hard data on sun positions
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2011, 12:35:48 PM »
Easy solution, include a sign in the picture

What, like a satanic pentagram or a masonic symbol or something? That will just fan the James Flames.
If the ultimate objective is to kill Skeleton, we should just do that next.