Why is an icewall necessary

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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2011, 10:56:03 AM »
What do you mean "let's not have it"?  What a silly notion; are you suggesting that we demolish an entire continent? Quite clearly not.

Nobody has ever seen it, so it makes things a lot easier.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2011, 11:07:16 AM »
Nobody has ever seen it, so it makes things a lot easier.
Nobody has ever seen the Earth's curvature, either.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2011, 11:12:00 AM »
Nobody has ever seen it, so it makes things a lot easier.
Nobody that any FE'er would believe has ever seen the Earth's curvature, either.

Fixed.  Just because you don't believe them, that doesn't mean that it hasn't happened.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2011, 11:19:43 AM »
Nobody has ever seen it, so it makes things a lot easier.
Nobody has ever seen the Earth's curvature, either.

You already renewed your membership of the Reality Denial Club a few days ago, but Im sorry, our policy is not to refund the fee to those who do it again too soon.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2011, 04:54:07 PM »
Brazil is to the icewall as Donald Trump is to the Tooth Fairy.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2011, 05:12:13 PM »
Brazil is to the icewall as Donald Trump is to the Tooth Fairy.

Please refrain from low content posting in the discussion forums.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2011, 05:21:02 PM »
Brazil is to the icewall as Donald Trump is to the Tooth Fairy.

Please refrain from low content posting in the discussion forums.

I found it to be a cogent analogy that will be helpful to people like James who cant tell the difference between evidence supporting real places and evidence supporting the ice wall. That he (James) compared the two indicates he is in need of clarification, which Theodolite provides here.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2011, 05:24:54 PM »
Brazil is to the icewall as Donald Trump is to the Tooth Fairy.

Please refrain from low content posting in the discussion forums.

You will have to excuse me, but I aim for high content, high concept, low word count posts.

Back to my original question, there is no evidence of an ice wall.  Usually it is offered as an explanation of why the ocean doesnt fall off the side of a flat earth.  That is the topic I am hoping to discuss, in this bumper car derailing forum
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2011, 05:40:47 PM »
the "ice wall" is a metaphor, and not an actual object.
Its is just where the light from our spherical sun shining a circle of light upon us ends.
 

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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2011, 04:21:21 AM »
the "ice wall" is a metaphor, and not an actual object.
Its is just where the light from our spherical sun shining a circle of light upon us ends.

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Q: "Why doesn't water run off the Earth?"

A: There is a vast "ice wall" that keeps the water where it is. This explains why you can find a vast plane of ice as you travel southward. The wall is roughly 150ft high. In the McIntyre model, however, the height of the wall increases further as one moves toward the edge of the world.

So basically what you're saying is,

There is a vast "ice wall" darkness that keeps the water where it is. This explains why you can find a vast plane of ice darkness as you travel southward. The wall darkness is roughly 150ft high. In the McIntyre model, however, the height of the wall darkness increases further as one moves toward the edge of the world.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2011, 07:41:27 AM »
Yes, that is what I am getting at.  Does anyone confirm that they believe an icewall keeps the ocean in, if not please state your alternate theory
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2011, 07:51:08 AM »
The concepts are being turned on their heads in what I must suppose is an act of wilful ignorance on the part of RE believers. The ice barrier is not a wall for containing the ocean, like an absurd bathtub. No. Our great oceans are but a droplet lost in an immeasurable expanse of ice and rock.

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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2011, 07:55:26 AM »
The concepts are being turned on their heads in what I must suppose is an act of wilful ignorance on the part of RE believers. The ice barrier is not a wall for containing the ocean, like an absurd bathtub. No. Our great oceans are but a droplet lost in an immeasurable expanse of ice and rock.

Can you please rephrase your last statement so that it is more clear.  Are you referring to the edge of the flat earth, or another theory?
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2011, 07:59:36 AM »
The concepts are being turned on their heads in what I must suppose is an act of wilful ignorance on the part of RE believers. The ice barrier is not a wall for containing the ocean, like an absurd bathtub. No. Our great oceans are but a droplet lost in an immeasurable expanse of ice and rock.

Can you please rephrase your last statement so that it is more clear.  Are you referring to the edge of the flat earth, or another theory?

I am referring to the infinite FE theory.

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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2011, 05:11:37 PM »
The concepts are being turned on their heads in what I must suppose is an act of wilful ignorance on the part of RE believers. The ice barrier is not a wall for containing the ocean, like an absurd bathtub. No. Our great oceans are but a droplet lost in an immeasurable expanse of ice and rock.

Can you please rephrase your last statement so that it is more clear.  Are you referring to the edge of the flat earth, or another theory?


I am referring to the infinite FE theory.

You should really refer to that as the infinite FE hypothethis.  Using the term theory in that manner implies a published, reviewed, scientific theory.

For example, The theory of gravity.

If the FE is infinite, then the implication must be that no aircraft are capable of flying past the edges?  This is strictly in your imagination I assume. 

Back to the regular flat earth, what keeps the water from falling off of the edge?
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2011, 05:19:18 PM »
You should really refer to that as the infinite FE hypothethis.  Using the term theory in that manner implies a published, reviewed, scientific theory.

You should really refer to that as the infinite FE hypothesis. Using the term hypothethis in that manner implies a published, reviewed, scientific hypothethis.

If the FE is infinite, then the implication must be that no aircraft are capable of flying past the edges?


Yes. You've worked out the meaning of 'infinite'. Now what?

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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2011, 05:21:33 PM »
I meant, you are implying that there is an infinite earth, but beyond the parts we know about, what?  You cant fly there? 
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2011, 05:23:14 PM »
I meant, you are implying that there is an infinite earth, but beyond the parts we know about, what?  You cant fly there?

With an infinite amount of time and fuel, you could fly anywhere beyond the known world.

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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2011, 05:40:19 PM »
I meant, you are implying that there is an infinite earth, but beyond the parts we know about, what?  You cant fly there?

With an infinite amount of time and fuel, you could fly anywhere beyond the known world.

I have an analogy for your theory.

There is a large continent the size of africa halfway between New York and England.

Both theories have the same amount of evidence confirming them.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2011, 06:00:30 PM »
I meant, you are implying that there is an infinite earth, but beyond the parts we know about, what?  You cant fly there?

With an infinite amount of time and fuel, you could fly anywhere beyond the known world.

I have an analogy for your theory.

There is a large continent the size of africa halfway between New York and England.

Both theories have the same amount of evidence confirming them.

The infinite earth plane leads to the question "why can nobody travel further than 90 degrees south (or north if you adhere to the SCM)?" Which they do not ever answer, (apart from one guy syaing "theres a wall in the way".)  :P
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2011, 04:51:36 AM »
I meant, you are implying that there is an infinite earth, but beyond the parts we know about, what?  You cant fly there?

With an infinite amount of time and fuel, you could fly anywhere beyond the known world.

I have an analogy for your theory.

There is a large continent the size of africa halfway between New York and England.

Both theories have the same amount of evidence confirming them.

I have actually flown from England to New York. Unless this continent is disguised to look like ocean, I can confirm it doesn't exist.

The infinite earth plane leads to the question "why can nobody travel further than 90 degrees south (or north if you adhere to the SCM)?" Which they do not ever answer, (apart from one guy syaing "theres a wall in the way".)  :P

What do you mean by '90 degrees south'? I stand by what I said: with sufficient resources you or I could travel beyond the ice wall indefinitely.

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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2011, 06:47:15 AM »
I have actually flown from England to New York. Unless this continent is disguised to look like ocean, I can confirm it doesn't exist.

Are you sure that the pilot didn't fly around the continent?  There may be some strict overflight prohibitions that you might not be aware of.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2011, 06:57:09 AM »
I have actually flown from England to New York. Unless this continent is disguised to look like ocean, I can confirm it doesn't exist.

Are you sure that the pilot didn't fly around the continent?  There may be some strict overflight prohibitions that you might not be aware of.

Travelling around the second largest continent in the world would take days, not hours.

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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2011, 08:04:43 AM »
Theres an invisible Hiperspace Tunnel through that continent. That explains all that turbulencies. oh, wait ,CONSPIRACY!!!!!

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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2011, 08:33:57 AM »
I have actually flown from England to New York. Unless this continent is disguised to look like ocean, I can confirm it doesn't exist.

Are you sure that the pilot didn't fly around the continent?  There may be some strict overflight prohibitions that you might not be aware of.

Travelling around the second largest continent in the world would take days, not hours.

You know that is the exact same argument that the Globularists argue about with distances and discrepancies in the Southern Hemisphere.  Your own resident Flatularist pilot explains that Pilots can be find themselves in randomly long holding patters while using their conspiracy built flight computers which guide them on paths they have no clue.

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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2011, 08:49:39 AM »
I have actually flown from England to New York. Unless this continent is disguised to look like ocean, I can confirm it doesn't exist.

Are you sure that the pilot didn't fly around the continent?  There may be some strict overflight prohibitions that you might not be aware of.

Travelling around the second largest continent in the world would take days, not hours.

You know that is the exact same argument that the Globularists argue about with distances and discrepancies in the Southern Hemisphere.  Your own resident Flatularist pilot explains that Pilots can be find themselves in randomly long holding patters while using their conspiracy built flight computers which guide them on paths they have no clue.

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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2011, 09:14:03 AM »
It is true, there is a large icy continent between North America and Europe, over which many transatlantic flights travel.  I believe that the pilots prefer to crash land in the icy wastes than in the freezing ocean, as it increases the chances of survival.  And there are human settlements on the coasts of this continent.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2011, 03:21:12 PM »
It is true, there is a large icy continent between North America and Europe, over which many transatlantic flights travel.  I believe that the pilots prefer to crash land in the icy wastes than in the freezing ocean, as it increases the chances of survival.  And there are human settlements on the coasts of this continent.

You might want to check your definition of "continent".
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2011, 04:54:14 PM »
Just because you don't believe them, that doesn't mean that it hasn't happened.
Correct, and yet entirely irrelevant.
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Re: Why is an icewall necessary
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2011, 07:21:36 PM »
Well, on to phase 2 of this thread.  All of you alleged FE believers are too cautious to take such obvious bait, so I will advance the debate to the actual intended topic.


IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A FLAT EARTH TO HAVE AN ATMOSPHERE


Intended debate:

why is icewall necessary

to hold in the ocean

the ocean is a fluid, so is the atmosphere, what holds the atmosphere in?

« Last Edit: August 16, 2011, 07:24:53 PM by Theodolite »
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