Rich people are better than poor people

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Rich people are better than poor people
« on: July 26, 2011, 10:20:32 PM »
Q. Are rich people better than poor people?

A. Yes, they are.

Q. Are rich people smarter than poor people?

A. Yes, they are.

Q. I disagree. There are plenty of poor scientists and starving professionals out in the world.

A. Well, if they were so smart they wouldn't be poor now, would they?

Q. But what about Brittany Spears, surely she is just a dumb blonde who got lucky. How can you say that she is better than anyone else?

A. Brittany Spears spent years of her life training to become a singer and had the wherewithal to get herself to the top. She made the right connections and had the drive to succeed, unlike you.

Q. What about all of the people who were just born into money. You can't really say that they are smarter or better than a poor person.

A. Yes you can. When parents reproduce they are really just making copies of themselves. The people born into wealth are copies of their parents who worked hard and succeeded. Children are a continuation of one's [successful] self

Q. But poor people don't really have the opportunity to make it. When you are born into poverty it's hard to get out of poverty.

A. That excuse may have worked in the middle ages, but these days there are endless opportunities available. One does not even need to go to college to educate themselves in a field. With the internet and free public libraries it is possible to self educate yourself in fields like technology, law, or business. There are countless self-educated techs and businessmen out there. Abraham Lincoln passed the Bar Exam without ever setting a foot into Law School, after all.

It is also possible to start a business these days without a heavy investment in capital. Internet businesses are regularly run out of bedrooms.

Q. But how can poor people get themselves out of poverty when they are holding a full time job?

A. If you are working from 8 to 5 and turn on the TV when you get home then you obviously do not have a drive to succeed. It's your fault that you are poor, clearly.
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 10:27:19 PM »
What Tom posts, for the most part, is the harsh reality.
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 10:32:02 PM »
Q. What about all of the people who were just born into money. You can't really say that they are smarter or better than a poor person.

A. Yes you can. When parents reproduce they are really just making copies of themselves. The people born into wealth are copies of their parents who worked hard and succeeded. Children are a continuation of one's self

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 10:33:55 PM »

Q. What about all of the people who were just born into money. You can't really say that they are smarter or better than a poor person.

A. Yes you can. When parents reproduce they are really just making copies of themselves. The people born into wealth are copies of their parents who worked hard and succeeded. Children are a continuation of one's self

Q. But poor people don't really have the opportunity to make it. When you are born into poverty it's hard to get out of poverty.

A. That excuse may have worked in the middle ages, but these days there are endless opportunities available. One does not even need to go to college to educate themselves in a field. With the internet and free public libraries it is possible to self educate yourself in fields like technology, law, or business. There are countless self-educated techs and business men out there. Abraham Lincoln passed the Bar Exam without ever setting a foot into Law School, after all.

It is also possible to start a business these days without a heavy investment in capital. Internet businesses are regularly run out of bedrooms.


Smart rich people make smart babies, with the necessary mental tools to be rich

Poor stupid people make poor stupid babies (and usually lots of them).  These babies have a disadvantage from day 1, with their poor genetic material and mental abilities (plus the stupid decisions their moms made while pregnant)


Your two points contradict each other.
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 11:08:52 PM »
What Tom posts, for the most part, is the harsh reality.
Correct. Unfortunately quality of life is very much related to education and following directly from that money earnt due to work.

However, money can't buy friends or happiness.  It can buy you a shitload of hookers who can pretend to be your friends though.
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2011, 12:15:36 AM »
Posting in a quality thread.

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2011, 02:11:33 AM »
Ahhh, the last disadvantaged group without representation. The stupid.

You cannot refuse someone a job because they are black or old or fat or ginger or gay or disabled or any other section of society.

But the stupid, by virtue of being stupid come in for abuse like this. As the most vunerable section of society, maybe you shouldn't be able to discriminate on intellect or make stupidist threads like this in case people's feelings get hurt. Who will stand up and represent the stupid?

Poor stupid bast*rds. :(

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2011, 02:36:24 AM »
Going to a university is very expensive, the top ones sometimes charge as much as $50,000 a year. Fees at the top schools are expensive, I know how much why parents pay and it's quite a lot. If my Dad wasn't very successful in the stock markets the fees would be quite a drain.
Rich people can afford private tutoring, the poor can't.
If your born somewhere without good public schools and your parents have very little money then you are at a major disadvantage. If your parents are really poor, then you might not get education altogether. Or internet usage, so that way of studying is out. If someone in that position is genetically incredibly intelligent and an unbelievably hard worker, then yes, they'll probably be successful. But what about average people. If only 1% have the skills and willpower to do something, then should most people be expected to be able to do it?

There are many smart people who aren't to rich because they didn't have the money to go to college and get a degree and don't have the in the top 0.01% level intelligence and drive to do something like start up a massive business or something.

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2011, 04:49:07 AM »
Q. Are rich people better than poor people?

A. Yes, they are.

Q. Are rich people smarter than poor people?

A. Yes, they are.

Tom, you poor b*****d.
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2011, 07:07:31 AM »
Q. Are rich people better than poor people?

A. Yes, they are.

Q. Are rich people smarter than poor people?

A. Yes, they are.

Tom, you poor b*****d.

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2011, 07:27:27 AM »
Q. Are rich people better than poor people?

A. Yes, they are.

Q. Are rich people smarter than poor people?

A. Yes, they are.

Tom, you poor b*****d.

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And he's like damn right, it's better than yours.

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2011, 07:50:10 AM »
Run an experiment; put a bunch of poor people from manufacturing/production or resource-gathering backgrounds on a desert island along with a bunch of CEOs, stockbrokers, professional singers and heirs; see which group survives better.

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2011, 08:16:26 AM »
I know quite a few rich people, and also quite a few poor people, Most of the rich ones are tossers, but some are jolly good chaps. Most of the less well off people I know are stereotypical 'yoofs' and a lot of those are alright blokes, but a large section of them are unnecessarily violent chavs. In addition, many of my best friends aren't exactly loaded. In any section of society you get people who are brilliant and then you have those that are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. No group is inherently superior to another.
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2011, 08:23:16 AM »
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2011, 09:48:42 AM »
Tom equates success with wealth. This is false.

If I am brilliant but have no desire for wealth or power, I will not be rich.
Wealth is power and power is often taken, not given. One must desire it to have it. I do not desire to be rich. Does that make me dumb? 

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2011, 10:31:24 AM »
Yes it' the usual TB boll*cks.  It's a generalisation, subject to the definitions of "better" and "smarter".   In fact going by the Q&A examples in the post, we must conclude that the original author is "poor" and "bad".

Also, this bit wrong on multiple levels.
Q. What about all of the people who were just born into money. You can't really say that they are smarter or better than a poor person.

A. Yes you can. When parents reproduce they are really just making copies of themselves. The people born into wealth are copies of their parents who worked hard and succeeded. Children are a continuation of one's self
Human reproduction != cloning.  TB need a sex education refresher.
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2011, 10:43:01 AM »
Going to a university is very expensive, the top ones sometimes charge as much as $50,000 a year.
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2011, 11:16:13 AM »
Charlile Sheen is better than all of us!
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2011, 11:19:41 AM »
Q. Are rich people better than poor people?

A. Yes, they are.

Q. Are rich people smarter than poor people?

A. Yes, they are.

Q. I disagree. There are plenty of poor scientists and starving professionals out in the world.

A. Well, if they were so smart they wouldn't be poor now, would they?

Q. But what about Brittany Spears, surely she is just a dumb blonde who got lucky. How can you say that she is better than anyone else?

A. Brittany Spears spent years of her life training to become a singer and had the wherewithal to get herself to the top. She made the right connections and had the drive to succeed, unlike you.

Q. What about all of the people who were just born into money. You can't really say that they are smarter or better than a poor person.

A. Yes you can. When parents reproduce they are really just making copies of themselves. The people born into wealth are copies of their parents who worked hard and succeeded. Children are a continuation of one's self

Q. But poor people don't really have the opportunity to make it. When you are born into poverty it's hard to get out of poverty.

A. That excuse may have worked in the middle ages, but these days there are endless opportunities available. One does not even need to go to college to educate themselves in a field. With the internet and free public libraries it is possible to self educate yourself in fields like technology, law, or business. There are countless self-educated techs and businessmen out there. Abraham Lincoln passed the Bar Exam without ever setting a foot into Law School, after all.

It is also possible to start a business these days without a heavy investment in capital. Internet businesses are regularly run out of bedrooms.

Q. But how can poor people get themselves out of poverty when they are holding a full time job?

A. If you are working from 8 to 5 and turn on the TV when you get home then you obviously do not have a drive to succeed. It's your fault that you are poor, clearly.



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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2011, 11:35:24 AM »
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Going to a university is very expensive, the top ones sometimes charge as much as $50,000 a year. Fees at the top schools are expensive, I know how much why parents pay and it's quite a lot. If my Dad wasn't very successful in the stock markets the fees would be quite a drain.

You don't need to go to college to be successful. It is possible to educate yourself through self-study. Many people have done so. There are plenty of resources available to the poor: Public Libraries and Internet.

Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Woody Allen, Andrew Jackson, Mark Zuckerberg, Michael Dell, Lawrence Ellison, and Henry Ford all dropped out of college. Lack of a post-secondary education didn't stop them from becoming successful. They educated themselves through experience and self study.

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If your born somewhere without good public schools and your parents have very little money then you are at a major disadvantage. If your parents are really poor, then you might not get education altogether.

Public education at the primary and high school level is free. Being "really poor" does not prevent you from getting a primary and high school education.

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Or internet usage, so that way of studying is out.

No it isn't. There isn't a public school or library in the country which does not have internet access.

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If someone in that position is genetically incredibly intelligent and an unbelievably hard worker, then yes, they'll probably be successful. But what about average people. If only 1% have the skills and willpower to do something, then should most people be expected to be able to do it?

If poor people don't have the willpower to become unpoor then that's their own fault. They suffer from a lack of ambition and persistence.

Lack of skills is not an excuse. Again, there are public libraries and the internet.

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There are many smart people who aren't to rich because they didn't have the money to go to college and get a degree and don't have the in the top 0.01% level intelligence and drive to do something like start up a massive business or something.

Brittany Spears isn't in the top 0.01% level of intelligence. You don't have to be Einstein to become successful. Brittany Spears took a mediocre singing talent and turned it into a multi-million dollar enterprise. She had the cunning and wit to make the right connections, the persistence to push herself forward, and the ability to learn from her failures.
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2011, 11:49:30 AM »
It would be comforting to believe that people with bad lives are just living out the result of their own stubborn stupidity and laziness, and that with willpower, hard work, and a little pinch of magic anybody can achieve their dreams. This isn't the case, obviously. People are born with, or have thrust upon them, mental and physical handicaps. People are victim to circumstances that can't be overcome with puny human willpower.

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2011, 11:59:04 AM »
Poor is a choice, just like gay!
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2011, 12:03:59 PM »
And gays are the devil!

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2011, 12:17:52 PM »
Tom equates success with wealth. This is false.

If I am brilliant but have no desire for wealth or power, I will not be rich.
Wealth is power and power is often taken, not given. One must desire it to have it. I do not desire to be rich. Does that make me dumb? 

If you choose to be poor, then yes, that makes you dumb. No one chooses to be poor. Poverty is a hard life. Choosing to be poor is akin to choosing to scald yourself with boiling water. Both are dumb choices to make.

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It would be comforting to believe that people with bad lives are just living out the result of their own stubborn stupidity and laziness, and that with willpower, hard work, and a little pinch of magic anybody can achieve their dreams. This isn't the case, obviously. People are born with, or have thrust upon them, mental and physical handicaps. People are victim to circumstances that can't be overcome with puny human willpower.

Most people do not have mental or physical handicaps. I'm not arguing that mentally impaired people should become CEO's. The reason most people are poor is due to a lack of ambition and willpower. They choose not to educate themselves, they choose to watch television after work, and they choose to spend their weekends dicking around.

If they spent all of their efforts towards bettering themselves, they could. There is no reason why they couldn't. There is not a lack of resources or money in the economy. Money is fluid and plentiful, and its availability adjusts to fit the size and needs of the economy. There is plenty of opportunity to succeed. There is no legitimate reason why the average poor person can't move up to at least a middle-class lifestyle with enough persistence and hard work.
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2011, 12:27:39 PM »
George Carlin, the American Dream

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2011, 12:28:14 PM »
This thread is a step too far in silliness, Tom, even for you.  Making money is not the sole purpose of life, and there's a lot more to the worth of one's life than what's in their wallet.

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2011, 12:31:39 PM »
Tom equates success with wealth. This is false.

If I am brilliant but have no desire for wealth or power, I will not be rich.
Wealth is power and power is often taken, not given. One must desire it to have it. I do not desire to be rich. Does that make me dumb? 

If you choose to be poor, then yes, that makes you dumb. No one chooses to be poor. Poverty is a hard life. Choosing to be poor is akin to choosing to scald yourself with boiling water. Both are dumb choices to make.
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2011, 12:48:32 PM »
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No one chooses to be poor.

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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2011, 01:00:57 PM »
ITT: Ghandi was dumb
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Re: Rich people are better than poor people
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2011, 03:11:53 PM »
This thread is a step too far in silliness, Tom, even for you.  Making money is not the sole purpose of life, and there's a lot more to the worth of one's life than what's in their wallet.
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For all tom's hot air and kooky ideas, he actually believes in the American dream. He actually believes that shit. That anybody and everybody can become rich and successful and nobody should drive anything less than a Mercedes, and that man will return to the Moon one da.... Hang on. Britney Spears... It was the record company that was successful, not miss trailer trash.  She was swept up by the marketing machine who were looking for a Barby doll and was spat out 5 years later with mental issues. That's the American dream.   
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