FLIGHT PATHS DISPROVE FE

1) Is the distance travelled by the plane greater in the FE model?

All the flights performed in FE or RE take the same time. FE theory is coherent with Flight Paths.

2) If yes, would it be possible to travel the FE distance via plane?

If you circle, you can.

I asked about distance, not time. Is the DISTANCE travelled greater in the FE model?

1) Is the distance travelled by the plane greater in the FE model?

All the flights performed in FE or RE take the same time. FE theory is coherent with Flight Paths.

2) If yes, would it be possible to travel the FE distance via plane?

If you circle, you can.

why do you assume that planes fly faster in the FE model?

why do you assume that planes fly faster in the FE model?

Here is a photo of a company that is attempting to lure birds to their plane so they can easily catch and tether them to it thus reducing the costs of having to catch and train them.


Peregrine falcons also can reach speeds up to 170 mph, it is not unlikely that for small passenger planes a few of these creatures are not used for the main system of flight.

Because it is the accepted FE model is to have birds pushing or pulling the planes to increase their speed.  We don't know this because of the conspiracy.

All flights are controlled by the Conspiracy (NASA). Think about it: flying should be impossible apart from in balloons. And the lie about not being able to breath the air up their is so they can "pressurise" the cabin. Well guess what? They "pressurise" it with mind altering drugs that make you think you've been on a flight for 3 hours when in fact it was 13.

Berny
Its been to long to let that one rest

From what I've been told on this site, the motive for perpetuating a "conspiracy" is that there is profit to be had. The interesting bit is that absolutely no one stands to make more money whether people believe in a flat or spherical Earth. Furthermore, if FE conspirators purposely avoid the shortest route to their destinations, then they would actually LOSE money due to extra fuel costs etc. If the Earth were flat, they wouldn't take a few million dollar bribes from NASA, they would oust the conspiracy and make BILLIONS more in savings alone. That is one reason why the conspiracy is rubbish. 

From what I've been told on this site, the motive for perpetuating a "conspiracy" is that there is profit to be had. The interesting bit is that absolutely no one stands to make more money whether people believe in a flat or spherical Earth. Furthermore, if FE conspirators purposely avoid the shortest route to their destinations, then they would actually LOSE money due to extra fuel costs etc. If the Earth were flat, they wouldn't take a few million dollar bribes from NASA, they would oust the conspiracy and make BILLIONS more in savings alone. That is one reason why the conspiracy is rubbish. 

Please provide the relevant calculations to support your claims.

From what I've been told on this site, the motive for perpetuating a "conspiracy" is that there is profit to be had. The interesting bit is that absolutely no one stands to make more money whether people believe in a flat or spherical Earth. Furthermore, if FE conspirators purposely avoid the shortest route to their destinations, then they would actually LOSE money due to extra fuel costs etc. If the Earth were flat, they wouldn't take a few million dollar bribes from NASA, they would oust the conspiracy and make BILLIONS more in savings alone. That is one reason why the conspiracy is rubbish. 

The conspirators arent flying planes.  Those are pilots.

Quote from: jraffield1 on September 02, 2011, 11:48:32 AM

From what I've been told on this site, the motive for perpetuating a "conspiracy" is that there is profit to be had. The interesting bit is that absolutely no one stands to make more money whether people believe in a flat or spherical Earth. Furthermore, if FE conspirators purposely avoid the shortest route to their destinations, then they would actually LOSE money due to extra fuel costs etc. If the Earth were flat, they wouldn't take a few million dollar bribes from NASA, they would oust the conspiracy and make BILLIONS more in savings alone. That is one reason why the conspiracy is rubbish. 

The conspirators arent flying planes.  Those are pilots.

Even if the conspirators weren't actually flying the planes, they certainly own the business's that use them.

Wouldn't the major business leaders of the world make their pilots fly in such a way as to make more money? If the answer you provide is "no" then you obviously don't understand how the world works.

Somebody has yet to answer my question:

What is greater, the distance on the RE model or FE model? The OP provided proof using BOTH models to show that the distance is shorter using the RE model and is coherent with flight times.

I am not seeing the flight in question on Quantas. Other airlines have this at 22-37 hours for a non stop. Isn't that in favor of FE?  Just trying to learn here.

I am not seeing the flight in question on Quantas. Other airlines have this at 22-37 hours for a non stop. Isn't that in favor of FE?  Just trying to learn here.

What?

I am not seeing the flight in question on Quantas. Other airlines have this at 22-37 hours for a non stop. Isn't that in favor of FE?  Just trying to learn here.

Not sure exactly which flight you're talking about, but here you go:

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=non+stop+flight+from+santiago+chile+to+sydney+australia

Also, the FEers like to pick a random ass airport to leave from, and a random ass airport to arrive in, to try and prove the flight time thing.
The fact is, a flight from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia exists, and it takes like 14 hours.  This is impossible on the FE map.

FEers best defense is "well I've never flown that, and I personally don't know anyone who has flown it, so it must not exist"... okay... how many people do you know that have flown:
a) from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia?
b) random ass airport A to random ass airport B?
c) Chicago, IL to Buenos Aires?

Picking two random ass spots and saying no one you know has flown from point A to B is laughable.  I would guess that with 99.999% of routes, YOU (FEer) don't know anyone who has ever flown it.

Quote from: Archibald on September 03, 2011, 08:17:28 AM

Quote from: jraffield1 on September 02, 2011, 11:48:32 AM

From what I've been told on this site, the motive for perpetuating a "conspiracy" is that there is profit to be had. The interesting bit is that absolutely no one stands to make more money whether people believe in a flat or spherical Earth. Furthermore, if FE conspirators purposely avoid the shortest route to their destinations, then they would actually LOSE money due to extra fuel costs etc. If the Earth were flat, they wouldn't take a few million dollar bribes from NASA, they would oust the conspiracy and make BILLIONS more in savings alone. That is one reason why the conspiracy is rubbish. 

The conspirators arent flying planes.  Those are pilots.

Even if the conspirators weren't actually flying the planes, they certainly own the business's that use them.

Wouldn't the major business leaders of the world make their pilots fly in such a way as to make more money? If the answer you provide is "no" then you obviously don't understand how the world works.

Ahem, my uncle is a pilot. He lives right next to me. Let's ask him... Well, he says you're full of shit and your comment seemed very funny to him. Nice.

I am not seeing the flight in question on Quantas. Other airlines have this at 22-37 hours for a non stop. Isn't that in favor of FE?  Just trying to learn here.

37 hours non stop??? ARE YOU INSANE???

Sure there is.  Up is the direction that the UA is pushing the FE.

That poses a few questions:
1) What is "qualified" and what isn't qualified for being accelerated by UA? That should be a fundamental question, since everything else seems to be accelerated except of us and the ground.
2) Is there anything that is actually stationary? Because if there were stationary light emitting/reflecting bodies, we would probably receive massive amounts of radiation due to the blue shift.
3) Is every other celestial body a solid rock? Because if they weren't, they would be shedding matter all over the place. Except if everything on them is accelerated by UA, but you haven't told what is and what isn't accelerated by UA!
4) That poses another question, what are comets, shooting stars, etc.? Why are they accelerated "less"? Are they accelerated at all? If not, then why are they not moving at immense speeds compared to us?
5) What force keeps celestial bodies revolving around us and the moons of other planets revolving around them? Are they not affected by centrifugal acceleration? What qualifies as being able to revolve?
6) Why does the Earth still have an atmosphere? If it was a disk, it should be gone by now. If you don't believe me, try to keep a bunch of water on a flat disk without getting spilled.
7) Why can I see satellites and the ISS with my telescope?