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A treadmill is designed to allow a moving object to move while remaining stationary. Since a plane requires air movement around itself at a specific speed to generate lift then the answer is nothing.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.
To be fair, sometimes what FE'ers say makes so little sense that it's hard to come up with a rebuttal.
Quote from: Lorddave on July 18, 2011, 03:09:48 AMA treadmill is designed to allow a moving object to move while remaining stationary. Since a plane requires air movement around itself at a specific speed to generate lift then the answer is nothing.This is not necessarily true.
Quote from: Lorddave on July 18, 2011, 03:09:48 AMA treadmill is designed to allow a moving object to move while remaining stationary. Since a plane requires air movement around itself at a specific speed to generate lift then the answer is nothing.A plane uses a propeller or jet to produce thrust. The wheels are either braking or freewheeling so the engine must only overcome the resistance of the wheels travelling on the treadmill.BernyWaiting for Thork
Quote from: Parsifal on July 18, 2011, 04:48:31 AMQuote from: Lorddave on July 18, 2011, 03:09:48 AMA treadmill is designed to allow a moving object to move while remaining stationary. Since a plane requires air movement around itself at a specific speed to generate lift then the answer is nothing.This is not necessarily true.Like if the propeller was operational?Quote from: berny_74 on July 18, 2011, 05:04:53 AMQuote from: Lorddave on July 18, 2011, 03:09:48 AMA treadmill is designed to allow a moving object to move while remaining stationary. Since a plane requires air movement around itself at a specific speed to generate lift then the answer is nothing.A plane uses a propeller or jet to produce thrust. The wheels are either braking or freewheeling so the engine must only overcome the resistance of the wheels travelling on the treadmill.BernyWaiting for ThorkWhich is done via air movement. Yes I know. So if the engine wasn't on then the plane would do nothing but spin it's wheels.
Quote from: Lorddave on July 18, 2011, 05:14:40 AMQuote from: Parsifal on July 18, 2011, 04:48:31 AMQuote from: Lorddave on July 18, 2011, 03:09:48 AMA treadmill is designed to allow a moving object to move while remaining stationary. Since a plane requires air movement around itself at a specific speed to generate lift then the answer is nothing.This is not necessarily true.Like if the propeller was operational?Quote from: berny_74 on July 18, 2011, 05:04:53 AMQuote from: Lorddave on July 18, 2011, 03:09:48 AMA treadmill is designed to allow a moving object to move while remaining stationary. Since a plane requires air movement around itself at a specific speed to generate lift then the answer is nothing.A plane uses a propeller or jet to produce thrust. The wheels are either braking or freewheeling so the engine must only overcome the resistance of the wheels travelling on the treadmill.BernyWaiting for ThorkWhich is done via air movement. Yes I know. So if the engine wasn't on then the plane would do nothing but spin it's wheels.How does the treadmill stop the plane. How does the small amount of friction manage to overcome to huge thrust of the engines.It doesn't, the friction is so small compared to the thrust that it does little to the plane.The plane takes off.Mythbusters tried it.
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Why would the engine not be on if the plane was trying to take off?
Quote from: General Disarray on July 18, 2011, 09:02:14 AMWhy would the engine not be on if the plane was trying to take off?Because the OP failed to give any details.His very simple statement had no indication that the plane was attempting to take off, what kind of plane it was, or if the plane was even active. I took it as a question as to if a plane on a treadmill could achieve the needed thrust to lift off from only the running treadmill.Or to put it more simply:His description was that of putting a glider plane with wheels on a treadmill and turning it on.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?
This is so old my grampa argued about it on the internets when he was a kid.
If there is no engine, the plane would move with the treadmill, it wouldn't remain stationary.
ITT: Lorddave attempts to be Parsifal.
Quote from: PizzaPlanet on July 20, 2011, 03:04:25 PMITT: Lorddave attempts to be Parsifal.False.I don't try, I do.
Quote from: Lorddave on July 20, 2011, 05:47:21 PMQuote from: PizzaPlanet on July 20, 2011, 03:04:25 PMITT: Lorddave attempts to be Parsifal.False.I don't try, I do. Ah, but you've just disproved your own case. You see, real Parsifal would just have said "False." without providing further explanation.
well this is going in circles
If you don't know, whenever you talk about it you're invoking the supernatural
Unknown != Magic.