A couple of questions.

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A couple of questions.
« on: July 03, 2011, 08:50:57 AM »
The idea of the Earth as a sphere has existed since the time of the ancient Greeks, long before NASA. What possible financial motive did they have?
Why are Satellites visible from earth with a pair of Binoculars?
How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?
If you can answer, then great! If not then I may not believe your theory, I'm afraid.

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sillyrob

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Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2011, 09:07:39 AM »
They were just wrong I guess.
Those are not satellites, they're stratellites or whatever stupid name the society gives them
Magic.

If you believe in magic then you should join the society, if not, then keep believing what the Earth really is.

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Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2011, 10:14:48 AM »
The idea of the Earth as a sphere has existed since the time of the ancient Greeks, long before NASA. What possible financial motive did they have?

They were mistaken.

Please read Earth Not a Globe by Samuel Birley Rowbotham. He goes through how Aristotle and the Greeks built their beliefs on a false premise.

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Why are Satellites visible from earth with a pair of Binoculars?

I question whether this is actually the case. I've scanned the heavens uncountable times with binoculars and telescopes and I've never seen a satellite.

Otherwise, it's possible that what people think are satellites are really planes/stratellites.

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How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?

From the Flat Earth Wiki:

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Atmolayer Lip Hypothesis

The Flat Earth does not necessarily need to be physically infinite in order to contain the atmosphere. Just very big. Often we might hear "infinite earth" from Flat Earth proponents as an analogy for what exists beyond the Antarctic coast; a stretch of land incomprehensible by human standards.

In order for barometric pressure to rise and fall, an element of heat must be present. Heat creates pressure. A lack of heat results in a drop in pressure. These two elements are tightly correlated in modern physics. This is why there is more pressure at the equator than there is at the Arctics. Likewise, if you put a bowl sealed with saran wrap in the microwave its contents will be heated up and cause the saran wrap to expand up outwards like a balloon. This is because heat is correlated with pressure.

In our local area the heat of the day comes from the sun, moving and swashing around wind currents from areas of low pressures to areas of high pressures with its heat. The coldness of the Antarctic tundra keeps the pressure low. Beyond the known world, where the rays of the sun do not reach, the tundra of ice and snow lays in perpetual darkness. If one could move away from the Antarctic rim into the uncharted tundra the surrounding temperatures would drop lower and lower until it nears zero barometric pressure. Defining the exact length of the gradient would take some looking into, but at a significant distance past the edge of the Ice Wall temperatures will drop to a point where barometric pressure nears the zero mark. At this point, whether it be thousands or millions of miles beyond the Antarctic rim, the environment will gradually match that of background space, and the world can physically end without the atmosphere leaking out of it.

The atmosphere may very well exist as a lip upon the surface of the earth, held in by vast gradients of declining pressure.
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Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2011, 11:19:27 AM »
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How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?

In my (work in progress) model, the atmosphere is much like the surface tension on a lake. It is simply the layer between air and ether.

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Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2011, 01:42:57 PM »
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How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?

In my (work in progress) model, the atmosphere is much like the surface tension on a lake. It is simply the layer between air and ether.

Sorry, really don't mean to be rude, but I couldn't stop laughing.

Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2011, 03:32:56 PM »
It's interesting you should say that Tom because I have seen countless satelites, including what I believed to be a space station. Perhaps it depends upon the quality of your telescope and the skill of the person using it?

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Thork

Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2011, 03:38:25 PM »
It's interesting you should say that Tom because I have seen countless satelites, including what I believed to be a space station. Perhaps it depends upon the quality of your telescope and the skill of the person using it?
Maybe it just depends on what you believe?

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Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2011, 03:40:52 PM »
It's interesting you should say that Tom because I have seen countless satelites, including what I believed to be a space station. Perhaps it depends upon the quality of your telescope and the skill of the person using it?
Maybe it just depends on what you believe?

If it was actually a satellite he saw, whether or not it was a space station is irrelevant.

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Thork

Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2011, 03:45:05 PM »
Synaesthesia has already conceded his conclusions are drawn by preconception. He expects to see the space station. He believes he has. He expects to see satellites. He believes he has.
If he has seen anything other than a moving star-like object, he interprets as being a satellite, then it might be worth examining.
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Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2011, 03:57:00 PM »
Synaesthesia has already conceded his conclusions are drawn by preconception. He expects to see the space station. He believes he has. He expects to see satellites. He believes he has.
If he has seen anything other than a moving star-like object, he interprets as being a satellite, then it might be worth examining.

Don't get so hung up over one word. A cousin of mine works at NASA, so I occasionally have the chance to visit with my family. My son especially loves to gaze through their (expensive!) telescopes, and a few months back he noticed an interesting object in the sky. My cousin checked it out and he said it looked like a space station. Besides, are you really trying to say that I'd be stupid enough to mistake a star for a satellite?

Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2011, 04:00:36 PM »
It's interesting you should say that Tom because I have seen countless satelites, including what I believed to be a space How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?
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If it was actually a satellite he saw, whether or not it was a space station is irrelevant.

Well, I think it's very relevant as a space station is much more difficult to mistake as a stratelite.

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Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2011, 04:04:30 PM »
If you really want to dig your heels in over this, tell me what makes you so sure what you observed was a satellite. Could you see solar panels or radio dishes or robotic limbs or rocket boosters or anything that separated this object out to be man-made?
Or did you see a bright object moving across the sky slowly?

Its not down to stupidity. You have no idea what you are looking at, you get told its a satellite and you accept it.
Its like being told you were made by God. You've no hard proof but millions of people accept it rightly or wrongly.

The conspiracy is lies upon lies. You need to get back to basics, to see where the initial curve ball came from.

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Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2011, 07:00:59 PM »
Tom hasn't seen a single satellite, therefore they do not exist. How many parts of the world have you personally seen? So the ones you haven't not exist?

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Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2011, 07:30:49 PM »
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How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?

In my (work in progress) model, the atmosphere is much like the surface tension on a lake. It is simply the layer between air and ether.

Sorry, really don't mean to be rude, but I couldn't stop laughing.

It can be spelled ether or aether. Google it.

Re: A couple of questions.
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2011, 11:57:50 PM »
If you really want to dig your heels in over this, tell me what makes you so sure what you observed was a satellite. Could you see solar panels or radio dishes or robotic limbs or rocket boosters or anything that separated this object out to be man-made?
Or did you see a bright object moving across the sky slowly?

Its not down to stupidity. You have no idea what you are looking at, you get told its a satellite and you accept it.
Its like being told you were made by God. You've no hard proof but millions of people accept it rightly or wrong.

They tend to have either 2 or 4 solar panels and usually have a radar dish in the middle (or at least the ones I have observed do). Besides you say that I've got no idea wht I'm talking about and I just think that's what it is because that's what I've been told, but then you're saying the earth is flat because that's what you've been told.