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An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth

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Thork

Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2011, 05:19:45 PM »
He won the countersuit because the earth is flat. duh!
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Tom Bishop

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2011, 05:23:29 PM »
From the article:

"As a champion of science and evolutionary thinking, [Alfred Wallace] was never afraid of adopting unpopular causes (hence his opposition to vaccination, among other things).  He was also, sadly, in frequent financial difficulties and worried about supporting his wife and children. "

"Both Hampden and Walsh put up 500 pounds in a London bank for safekeeping and Wallace signed an agreement that he would repay Walsh if he lost the bet."

Adjusting 500 pounds for inflation via measuringworth.com:

    In 2009, £500 from 1870 is worth:

    £35,500.00 using the retail price index
    £294,000.00 using average earnings

Converting pounds to dollars via google:

    35500 British pounds sterling = 57222.4500 US dollars

    294000 British pounds sterling = 473898.6000 US dollars

As we can see, Wallace had a very strong incentive for rigging or lying about this experiment. Considering the wager involved amounts like this it's no wonder Hampden sent Wallace death threats in response to his cheating.
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berny_74

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2011, 07:12:53 PM »
Quote from: Thork on July 19, 2011, 05:19:45 PM
He won the countersuit because the earth is flat. duh!

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Carpenter agreed to abide by the findings (Hampden refused to look through the telescope himself).

So Hampden didn't even involve with himself with the experiment since it would obviously would disagree with his findings.

[quoteAlthough J.J. Walsh later reviewed all of Wallace's findings and declared in writing that Hampden had lost the bet][/quote]

More like Hampden didn't get his drinking money.

Just another proof that the bedford level experiment is useless for any purpose of discussion of a Flat Earth.

Berny
And Hampden is a poor fracking loser
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2011, 06:24:15 PM »
Quote from: Ski on October 31, 2010, 11:45:44 PM
The wager to which you refer was between Wallace and John Hampden. Wallace's referee Walsh did not even deign to arrive at the demonstration. He had to be replaced by a friend of Wallace's -- one Martin Coulcher. Coulcher declared that he saw convexity, while the other witness/referee William Carpenter saw no signs of convexity. John Henry Walsh -- Wallace's original referee was the "tie-breaker".  A judge later declared that Wallace must return the ₤500 to Hampden though he was unable to restore Hampden's reputation or save him from bankruptcy. It's easy to believe in light of Wallace's horrendous monetary mismanagement that he and his referees conspired to defraud Hampden and besmirch the movement.
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2011, 04:43:35 PM »
I had a look at the link to this experiment... this Rowbotham sounds like a crazed pseudoscientist really. He definitely had an agenda compromising his objectivity.
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