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An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth

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MooseJuice

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An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« on: June 29, 2011, 02:42:20 AM »
So this father and sun built a DIY weather balloon and sent it up along with a camera and an iphone. 

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The father-and-son team from Brooklyn managed to send their homemade spacecraft up nearly 19 miles, high into the stratosphere, bringing back perhaps the most impressive amateur space footage ever.
http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/73/father-and-son-film-outer-space-do-it-yourself-style.html

Needless to say they have some very compelling footage/images.  Now if everyone of the believers on this forum were to arrange a community experiment just like this one, based on geographic location, you could all easily determine the true nature of the earth.  Collect enough images over enough continents over the earth, upload them all on these forums and overlay them together and you will have the true nature of the earth.

i know the answer
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2011, 07:16:33 AM »
I second the notion that everyone do this. It sounds like a great idea.

Plus, wouldn't you like to prove who's right once and for all?
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2011, 05:11:33 PM »
Interesting experiment.  One thing I noted is when at exactly 4:21 when the camera spun upside down; it seemed to look as if the earth was concave and the blackness of space was convex.  Then, it looked opposite when oriented below the balloon.  I wonder if any of this has to do with the circular nature of the lens in relation to distance.  I think I've read about that somewhere.  Anyway, definitely does not prove one way or the other.     
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MooseJuice

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2011, 11:27:50 PM »
Cmon guys no bites from the flat earthers that so vehemently defend there theory?  PROVE YOUR THEORY.  Be part of history, perform this community wide, forum sanctioned experiment to figure out the truth.  Or all you all afraid of what you might find?
« Last Edit: June 30, 2011, 01:27:20 AM by MooseJuice »
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2011, 08:47:11 AM »
They would say that the camera is only picking up part of the disc Earth.
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2011, 03:34:03 PM »
They could also use cheap lasers, and directional antennas to very easilly prove the shape of the earth, but they would rather rely on very old equipment used in a 100 year old study that nobody other than Flat earthers were ever able to replicate.
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MooseJuice

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2011, 03:09:26 AM »
Quote from: Puttah on June 30, 2011, 08:29:23 AM
Quote from: MooseJuice on June 29, 2011, 11:27:50 PM
Or all you all afraid of what you might find?
this

Lmao!  Laughter aside, I KNOW flat earther's have read this, and yet no bites?  You all fear the truth. 

You don't have to take the bible so literally.  You guys are missing out on so much of life by denying its true existence.

Don't be cowards, perform this experiment.
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2011, 05:48:52 AM »
Quote from: MooseJuice on July 01, 2011, 03:09:26 AM
Lmao!  Laughter aside, I KNOW flat earther's have read this, and yet no bites?  You all fear the truth. 

You don't have to take the bible so literally.  You guys are missing out on so much of life by denying its true existence.

Don't be cowards, perform this experiment.
It's on par with telling a Christian that praying isn't going to do anything, since FE'ers clearly are ignorant believers themselves.
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MooseJuice

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 05:06:33 PM »


cmon this is a damn fine experiment
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sillyrob

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 05:07:55 PM »
Bumping is generally frown upon.

However, this isn't damning evidence like you think, this thread has been done over and over and doesn't really go anywhere.
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MooseJuice

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 05:09:57 PM »
my bad i had seen a few other threads bumped and just assumed it was a regular thing here.  i wont bump dead threads anymore but i still think this experiment has merit.
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2011, 05:11:10 PM »
Quote from: MooseJuice on July 18, 2011, 05:09:57 PM
my bad i had seen a few other threads bumped and just assumed it was a regular thing here.  i wont bump dead threads anymore but i still think this experiment has merit.
Well, I was incorrect. It's frowned upon unless you actually add something to the conversation. Since you added a picture of hippos going ass to mouth, I'm sure they wont be too happy. As long as you don't keep doing it I'll doubt the mods will do anything.
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Tom Bishop

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 05:12:57 PM »
The camera in that video is using a fish-eye or wide-angle lens. Sometimes the earth is convex. Sometimes the earth is flat, and sometimes the earth is even concave.
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MooseJuice

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2011, 05:13:56 PM »
then take a regular camera and prove it, dont just say it.
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Tom Bishop

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 05:16:10 PM »
I do believe that there is some curvature at the edge of the atmosphere, but that is because the observer is looking down at a circle.

That video you posted still is still invalid due to the lens used, however.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2011, 05:56:04 PM by Tom Bishop »
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MooseJuice

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2011, 05:25:14 PM »
Quote from: MooseJuice on July 18, 2011, 05:13:56 PM
then take a regular camera and prove it, dont just say it.
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2011, 05:56:16 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on July 18, 2011, 05:16:10 PM
I do believe that there is some curvature at the edge of the atmosphere, but that is because the observer is looking down at a circle.
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2011, 09:08:17 AM »
Quote from: MooseJuice on July 18, 2011, 05:13:56 PM
then take a regular camera and prove it, dont just say it.

Good luck getting any FE'er to try an experiment, Especially one that would prove them wrong.

I'm sure the "conspiracy" is probably changing the camera memory with edited pictures in mid air anyways.
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Thork

Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2011, 09:19:28 AM »
Quote from: Roundy on July 19, 2011, 09:08:17 AM
Good luck getting any FE'er to try an experiment, Especially one that would prove them wrong.

Whilst I am usually an advocate of all things flat, I am reminded of the Wallace/Hampden Bedford wager. (Hampden is the FEr.)
Quote from: http://drvitelli.typepad.com/providentia/2010/08/the-flat-earth-fiasco.html
When Wallace corrected the telescope and obtained the exact same result, Carpenter agreed to abide by the findings (Hampden refused to look through the telescope himself).
Not very Zetetic.

However more amusing is the letter Hampden sent to Wallace's wife. But rather than spoil it you RErs should read that for yourselves. You may sympathise with poor deceitful Wallace.
Flat Earth Fair Play Policy

Hover here for letter Spoiler for those too lazy to lurk
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 09:25:02 AM by Thork »
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Roundy

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2011, 01:35:11 PM »
Sounds like Hampden was crazy from the start.
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Thork

Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2011, 02:00:08 PM »
Hampden was smeared.

Both the judge (Carpenter) and Hampden said the results showed earth flat.

Same experiment done for science, not money came out both other times as an FE victory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment
Blount and Rowbotham in the name of science, same place - both FE win.
Wallace, when money was involved, all kinds of cheating happened. History then muddies the water as the globularists write their interpretation. Blount was the last one to do the experiment. Her findings were conclusive. No one has attempted since.


Quote from: http://people.wku.edu/charles.smith/wallace/S162-163.htm
Wallace won the wager, but not, on a technicality, the five hundred pounds that had been put up, and was harassed for fifteen years by the loser, one John Hampden. In these two letters, Wallace disputes the interpretation of the results of the experiment given by another flat-earther, William Carpenter, who had served as Mr. Hampden's referee during the event.
Not only the 'loser' of the bet (Hampden), but even the referee (Carpenter) thought Wallace was cheating.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 02:02:24 PM by Thork »
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MooseJuice

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2011, 03:19:53 PM »
I didnt ask for some cop out of some obscure experiment performed in the past.  I presented a clear, economical, and easy to perform experiment for the believers of this board.  You guys want to change the world?  Here's your chance.
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2011, 03:26:07 PM »
Quote from: Thork on July 19, 2011, 02:00:08 PM
No one has attempted since.

Incorrect. Someone on this very forum did it recently.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 03:27:44 PM by Harutsedo »
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2011, 03:27:19 PM »
"Not only the 'loser' of the bet (Hampden), but even the referee (Carpenter) thought Wallace was cheating."

They were Both FE'ers
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Thork

Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2011, 03:36:13 PM »
Quote from: Roundy on July 19, 2011, 03:27:19 PM
"Not only the 'loser' of the bet (Hampden), but even the referee (Carpenter) thought Wallace was cheating."

They were Both FE'ers
Of course. They both saw the results. They saw the results suggest FE. It would be insane to still think earth was round.

Quote from: Harutsedo on July 19, 2011, 03:26:07 PM
Quote from: Thork on July 19, 2011, 02:00:08 PM
No one has attempted since.

Incorrect. Someone on this very forum did it recently.
I would hazard a guess that I am the closest person on this forum to Bedford. I have seen that very stretch of Canal and walked along it many times. (I lived in Milton Keynes for 2 years).
It is not possible to conduct an experiment like that today without contacting British Waterways and asking them to keep all the theodolite stealing pikeys in their canal boats, away from your equipment.
Many people come to this site also claiming to be astronauts. It doesn't make it so.

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2011, 03:37:53 PM »
Quote from: Thork on July 19, 2011, 03:36:13 PM
I would hazard a guess that I am the closest person on this forum to Bedford. I have seen that very stretch of Canal and walked along it many times. (I lived in Milton Keynes for 2 years).
It is not possible to conduct an experiment like that today without contacting British Waterways and asking them to keep all the theodolite stealing pikeys in their canal boats, away from your equipment.
Many people come to this site also claiming to be astronauts. It doesn't make it so.

He has pictures.
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2011, 03:47:17 PM »
Quote from: Harutsedo on July 19, 2011, 03:37:53 PM
He has pictures.

Incoming picture of the Death Star!
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MooseJuice

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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2011, 03:52:31 PM »
Quote from: MooseJuice on July 19, 2011, 03:19:53 PM
I didnt ask for some cop out of some obscure experiment performed in the past.  I presented a clear, economical, and easy to perform experiment for the believers of this board.  You guys want to change the world?  Here's your chance.

man just ignoring the op and carrying on your pointless arguments huh?
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2011, 03:56:12 PM »
Why emulate an experiment that has been conducted multiple times by many different people, and still considered inconclusive by Flat Earthers?
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Re: An experiment to prove once and for all the nature of the earth
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2011, 05:11:47 PM »
Quote from: Thork on July 19, 2011, 09:19:28 AM
Flat Earth Fair Play Policy

I don't understand why the author goes into such detail on so many aspects of the fiasco, but chooses to just gloss over the reason why Hampden won the countersuit, simply saying it was due to an "obscure legal technicality".  It makes the account look bizarrely biased.  It was nonetheless an interesting article and one that I haven't seen before.
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