I am an astronomer and a pilot, I have a non in-flamatory question for you.

  I really don't want to shuffle this to the debate forum, but I understand if the moderators feel it necessary.  I did not come here to debate (at least not to this forum), I like to understand others line of reason.

 I can easily prove 100% of the claims in your FAQ to be completely false.  I can do this with empirical evidence observed by my own eyes and devices.  Also photographs can be arranged.

 My question is this, will you care to listen? Or will you just accuse me as being part of the global conspiracy?

Hey, look. Another pilot astronomer.

I can easily prove 100% of the claims in your FAQ to be completely false.

Go on.

Hey, look. Another pilot astronomer.

  Is either one rare?  They certainly didn't seem rare in college. 

Before I'd even begin the undertaken of addressing your FAQ. (Which incidentally is full of dead links, and your wiki is not working showing me you either don't really care to update it, or don't have viable information to maintain it.  Which then compels me to question if it is even serious.

  Of course you didn't answer my question, would you just dismiss me as part of the conspiracy?  Rudimentary astronomy and geometry easily prove your statements implausible.

Is either one rare?  They certainly didn't seem rare in college.

It's just that we get someone who claims they're both a pilot and an astronomer (in rarer cases, astronaut; sometimes - astrologer, God(tm) knows why). They rarely speak the truth, so some of us (or, at the very least, I) grew skeptical of such claims.

you either don't really care to update it, or don't have viable information to maintain it.  Which then compels me to question if it is even serious.

Or we've only just got back up after a hacking incident; thanks for the insinuations, though. Now I feel less bad about throwing accusations at you.

Of course you didn't answer my question, would you just dismiss me as part of the conspiracy?

No. We don't dismiss people or their ideas.

It's just that we get someone who claims they're both a pilot and an astronomer (in rarer cases, astronaut; sometimes - astrologer, God(tm) knows why). They rarely speak the truth, so some of us (or, at the very least, I) grew skeptical of such claims.

 Well I'm certainly Not an astronaut and I don't want to give the impression that I'm a commercial airline pilot, I also think we can leave these claims out, considering you obviously will not accept any aviation related answer I provide.  Astronomy though, is something you can verify with a cheap pair of binoculars.

Or we've only just got back up after a hacking incident; thanks for the insinuations, though. Now I feel less bad about throwing accusations at you.

 My apologies, but what is taking so long? 

No. We don't dismiss people or their ideas.

  This statement is inconsistent with your complete dismissal of every single human being who works for NASA, Academia, The Government, and the private sector.  Which pretty much means everybody.  Would you care to correct that sentence?

My apologies, but what is taking so long?

The administration of this site truly sets a new standard. A new low standard. However, most of us have no way of affecting this situation.

This statement is inconsistent with your complete dismissal of every single human being who works for NASA, Academia, The Government, and the private sector.  Which pretty much means everybody.  Would you care to correct that sentence?

I would like to correct your sentence. No dismissal of people or their ideas takes place. The support for such ideas is a different matter entirely. Speaking of which: You're about to provide yours, aren't you?

I would like to correct your sentence. No dismissal of people or their ideas takes place. The support for such ideas is a different matter entirely. Speaking of which: You're about to provide yours, aren't you?

  Experiment then.  Purely hypothetical, what would you say if I said I had personally been in space and seen the Earth?

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I would like to correct your sentence. No dismissal of people or their ideas takes place. The support for such ideas is a different matter entirely. Speaking of which: You're about to provide yours, aren't you?

  Experiment then.  Purely hypothetical, what would you say if I said I had personally been in space and seen the Earth?

I would ask for your name.

Experiment then.  Purely hypothetical, what would you say if I said I had personally been in space and seen the Earth?

I would request evidence. How about you?

I would ask for your name.

  Going with that, suppose I provided said name, and reasonable proof that I was who I claimed to be.  What would you say then?

I would request evidence. How about you?

 Assuming we can both agree on some level of an Astronaut actually existing, suppose I provided the evidence.  What would you say then?

 As to what my response would be, would depend entirely upon the statement you were trying to make.

Assuming we can both agree on some level of an Astronaut actually existing, suppose I provided the evidence.  What would you say then?

If you provided evidence of your trip, I would accept the possibility of a round Earth.
However, this is an entirely hypothetical situation, and one that is entirely impossible to ever happen. I see no point in discussing it.

If you provided evidence of your trip, I would accept the possibility of a round Earth.
However, this is an entirely hypothetical situation, and one that is entirely impossible to ever happen. I see no point in discussing it.

  It is relevant, because weather or not you are going to listen or accept information is an important factor. 

Also this situation is not entirely hypothetical, as Astronauts do exist and offer all the evidence and first hand accounts you could ever want.

 Why do you dismiss them?

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I would ask for your name.

  Going with that, suppose I provided said name, and reasonable proof that I was who I claimed to be.  What would you say then?

Then I would want to interview you.

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If you provided evidence of your trip, I would accept the possibility of a round Earth.
However, this is an entirely hypothetical situation, and one that is entirely impossible to ever happen. I see no point in discussing it.

  It is relevant, because weather or not you are going to listen or accept information is an important factor. 

Also this situation is not entirely hypothetical, as Astronauts do exist and offer all the evidence and first hand accounts you could ever want.

 Why do you dismiss them?

I dismiss them depending on whether or not they can spell commonly used words. 

I are astronotologist, i seen space.  Beleive now??  kk

gossip girl xoxo   

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If you provided evidence of your trip, I would accept the possibility of a round Earth.
However, this is an entirely hypothetical situation, and one that is entirely impossible to ever happen. I see no point in discussing it.

  It is relevant, because weather or not you are going to listen or accept information is an important factor. 

Also this situation is not entirely hypothetical, as Astronauts do exist and offer all the evidence and first hand accounts you could ever want.

 Why do you dismiss them?

I dismiss them depending on whether or not they can spell commonly used words. 

  That is interesting!  Well let us apply the same to you!  Here is the first page of your post history!   Do I actually need to list your grammatical and spelling errors, or are you competent enough to recognize your own shortcomings? http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20833;area=showposts;start=2340

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I would ask for your name.

  Going with that, suppose I provided said name, and reasonable proof that I was who I claimed to be.  What would you say then?

Then I would want to interview you.

What sort of questions would you ask?

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Quote from: Sorunx on June 25, 2011, 04:54:23 PM

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If you provided evidence of your trip, I would accept the possibility of a round Earth.
However, this is an entirely hypothetical situation, and one that is entirely impossible to ever happen. I see no point in discussing it.

  It is relevant, because weather or not you are going to listen or accept information is an important factor. 

Also this situation is not entirely hypothetical, as Astronauts do exist and offer all the evidence and first hand accounts you could ever want.

 Why do you dismiss them?

I dismiss them depending on whether or not they can spell commonly used words. 

  That is interesting!  Well let us apply the same to you!  Here is the first page of your post history!   Do I actually need to list your grammatical and spelling errors, or are you competent enough to recognize your own shortcomings? http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20833;area=showposts;start=2340

Thanks for showing me something I already know is there.  You would be better served trying to stay on topic as deviations such as this only will serve to make you look foolish.  Secondly, the mods frown on off topic conversations in these here parts.

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Quote from: Sorunx on June 25, 2011, 04:54:23 PM

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If you provided evidence of your trip, I would accept the possibility of a round Earth.
However, this is an entirely hypothetical situation, and one that is entirely impossible to ever happen. I see no point in discussing it.

  It is relevant, because weather or not you are going to listen or accept information is an important factor. 

Also this situation is not entirely hypothetical, as Astronauts do exist and offer all the evidence and first hand accounts you could ever want.

 Why do you dismiss them?

I dismiss them depending on whether or not they can spell commonly used words. 

  That is interesting!  Well let us apply the same to you!  Here is the first page of your post history!   Do I actually need to list your grammatical and spelling errors, or are you competent enough to recognize your own shortcomings? http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20833;area=showposts;start=2340

Thanks for showing me something I already know is there.  You would be better served trying to stay on topic as deviations such as this only will serve to make you look foolish.  Secondly, the mods frown on off topic conversations in these here parts.

  Was your post on Topic?

  Was your post on Topic?

It is irrelevant who started the derailment if you are contributing to derailing a thread.

Get off it, Sorunx.

Notice by the 10th post everyone has already forgotten what the OP was about and is merely here to continue feeding the trollfest.

It's a common technique employed by those that can only win an argument by default.

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Quote from: Sorunx on June 25, 2011, 04:54:23 PM

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If you provided evidence of your trip, I would accept the possibility of a round Earth.
However, this is an entirely hypothetical situation, and one that is entirely impossible to ever happen. I see no point in discussing it.

  It is relevant, because weather or not you are going to listen or accept information is an important factor. 

Also this situation is not entirely hypothetical, as Astronauts do exist and offer all the evidence and first hand accounts you could ever want.

 Why do you dismiss them?

I dismiss them depending on whether or not they can spell commonly used words. 

  That is interesting!  Well let us apply the same to you!  Here is the first page of your post history!   Do I actually need to list your grammatical and spelling errors, or are you competent enough to recognize your own shortcomings? http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20833;area=showposts;start=2340

Thanks for showing me something I already know is there.  You would be better served trying to stay on topic as deviations such as this only will serve to make you look foolish.  Secondly, the mods frown on off topic conversations in these here parts.

  Was your post on Topic?

Yes.  Reread the whole of the quote box.  To surmise, you say it is important to listen to first hand accounts and ask why are we not?  I simply reply that if it seems the first hand account lacks credibility due to some bad spelling, among other things, then it may be a legit excuse.

Why do you dismiss them?

As I already said, we do not dismiss people. Which part of this statement is unclear?

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Quote from: Sorunx on June 25, 2011, 03:07:59 PM

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I would ask for your name.

  Going with that, suppose I provided said name, and reasonable proof that I was who I claimed to be.  What would you say then?

Then I would want to interview you.

What sort of questions would you ask?

I think a better question is how I would ask them.

ITT: Sorunx claims proving us wrong is easy; instead of proving us wrong, asks a million of redundant questions.
inb4 Sorunx never gets to the topic.

OK, I'll bite.   What are the proofs?  I'm willing to look at them.
So far, very few I've seen presented on this forum are convincing.  But I'm willing to look and listen.

So far, very few I've seen presented on this forum are convincing.  But I'm willing to look and listen.

But if FET is convincing you, then I don't think you should bother listening.

Also this situation is not entirely hypothetical, as Astronauts do exist and offer all the evidence and first hand accounts you could ever want.

Cat's exist.
Therefore I am a cat.
Meow meow.
I can post first hand evidence of my catness.