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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2011, 09:27:42 AM »
The Concorde purportedly flew that high.

But, the point that people are trying to make is that you can take a ride in a military vehicle that will go that high.

No, you can take a ride in a military vehicle which will pretend to go that high, and will merely project an image of curvature via the windows.

Do you have anything to back this up, other than it must be true because otherwise it would prove us wrong?

Much like the Higgs boson, it's an unlikelihood promoted by necessity.

This is a conjecture, based on no proof, but it suites your needs and therefore, you will hold onto that belief.  How do you project an image onto a canopy that is completely flawless that the people inside will believe beyond any doubt that it is real?  How does the pilot fly with this image projected onto the canopy?  Did the Concorde fleet have these projectors on every single porthole on every single jet?  What about the pilots, were there projectors on their windows as well?  Any proof that any of this is anything more than a fairy tale.

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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2011, 09:30:54 AM »
The Concorde purportedly flew that high.

But, the point that people are trying to make is that you can take a ride in a military vehicle that will go that high.

No, you can take a ride in a military vehicle which will pretend to go that high, and will merely project an image of curvature via the windows.

Do you have anything to back this up, other than it must be true because otherwise it would prove us wrong?

Much like the Higgs boson, it's an unlikelihood promoted by necessity.

This is a conjecture, based on no proof, but it suites your needs and therefore, you will hold onto that belief.  How do you project an image onto a canopy that is completely flawless that the people inside will believe beyond any doubt that it is real?  How does the pilot fly with this image projected onto the canopy?  Did the Concorde fleet have these projectors on every single porthole on every single jet?  What about the pilots, were there projectors on their windows as well?  Any proof that any of this is anything more than a fairy tale.

1) Because the windows are video screens
2) The planes used for civilian flights are remote controlled
3) No, the pilots have better things to do than look for curvature.

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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2011, 09:42:06 AM »
The Concorde purportedly flew that high.

But, the point that people are trying to make is that you can take a ride in a military vehicle that will go that high.

No, you can take a ride in a military vehicle which will pretend to go that high, and will merely project an image of curvature via the windows.

Do you have anything to back this up, other than it must be true because otherwise it would prove us wrong?

Much like the Higgs boson, it's an unlikelihood promoted by necessity.

This is a conjecture, based on no proof, but it suites your needs and therefore, you will hold onto that belief.  How do you project an image onto a canopy that is completely flawless that the people inside will believe beyond any doubt that it is real?  How does the pilot fly with this image projected onto the canopy?  Did the Concorde fleet have these projectors on every single porthole on every single jet?  What about the pilots, were there projectors on their windows as well?  Any proof that any of this is anything more than a fairy tale.

1) Because the windows are video screens
2) The planes used for civilian flights are remote controlled
3) No, the pilots have better things to do than look for curvature.
1)Your an idiot if thats a serious post(please tell me your trolling)
2)they could not remote control the Concorde, its too advanced and the tech was not that good in the 80's and 90's
3)the pilots get bored up there when they hit auto pilot, they look out the windows all the time


and military jets would have no reason to make these "video screens"
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2011, 09:48:27 AM »
The Concorde purportedly flew that high.

But, the point that people are trying to make is that you can take a ride in a military vehicle that will go that high.

No, you can take a ride in a military vehicle which will pretend to go that high, and will merely project an image of curvature via the windows.

Do you have anything to back this up, other than it must be true because otherwise it would prove us wrong?

Much like the Higgs boson, it's an unlikelihood promoted by necessity.

This is a conjecture, based on no proof, but it suites your needs and therefore, you will hold onto that belief.  How do you project an image onto a canopy that is completely flawless that the people inside will believe beyond any doubt that it is real?  How does the pilot fly with this image projected onto the canopy?  Did the Concorde fleet have these projectors on every single porthole on every single jet?  What about the pilots, were there projectors on their windows as well?  Any proof that any of this is anything more than a fairy tale.

1) Because the windows are video screens
2) The planes used for civilian flights are remote controlled
3) No, the pilots have better things to do than look for curvature.
1)Your an idiot if thats a serious post(please tell me your trolling)
2)they could not remote control the Concorde, its too advanced and the tech was not that good in the 80's and 90's
3)the pilots get bored up there when they hit auto pilot, they look out the windows all the time


and military jets would have no reason to make these "video screens"

1) So it can't be remote controlled, but it can be auto piloted? How's that work?
2) Let's pretend this is true, and a pilot notices that he doesn't see any curvature. Which is he going to assume; that there's a massive conspiracy that he just stumbled into, or that there are factors he doesn't know about coming into play? The conspiracy's greatest trick was to convince the world that for the Earth to be any shape other than oblate spheroid is pure insanity.

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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2011, 09:53:56 AM »
The Concorde purportedly flew that high.

But, the point that people are trying to make is that you can take a ride in a military vehicle that will go that high.

I don't know why my response did not show up in the post, or was deleted by the conspiracy government, but here goes it again.

Do you have any proof at all?  You make a lot of accusations, but do not prove to me it is true.  It is just what you believe.

Do you have even the smallest, slightest bit of evidence to support this?  I am sorry, but for me to believe your theory, I need more than just your imagination.

No, you can take a ride in a military vehicle which will pretend to go that high, and will merely project an image of curvature via the windows.

Do you have anything to back this up, other than it must be true because otherwise it would prove us wrong?

Much like the Higgs boson, it's an unlikelihood promoted by necessity.

This is a conjecture, based on no proof, but it suites your needs and therefore, you will hold onto that belief.  How do you project an image onto a canopy that is completely flawless that the people inside will believe beyond any doubt that it is real?  How does the pilot fly with this image projected onto the canopy?  Did the Concorde fleet have these projectors on every single porthole on every single jet?  What about the pilots, were there projectors on their windows as well?  Any proof that any of this is anything more than a fairy tale.

1) Because the windows are video screens
2) The planes used for civilian flights are remote controlled
3) No, the pilots have better things to do than look for curvature.
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2011, 09:55:04 AM »
The Concorde purportedly flew that high.

But, the point that people are trying to make is that you can take a ride in a military vehicle that will go that high.

No, you can take a ride in a military vehicle which will pretend to go that high, and will merely project an image of curvature via the windows.

Do you have anything to back this up, other than it must be true because otherwise it would prove us wrong?

Much like the Higgs boson, it's an unlikelihood promoted by necessity.

This is a conjecture, based on no proof, but it suites your needs and therefore, you will hold onto that belief.  How do you project an image onto a canopy that is completely flawless that the people inside will believe beyond any doubt that it is real?  How does the pilot fly with this image projected onto the canopy?  Did the Concorde fleet have these projectors on every single porthole on every single jet?  What about the pilots, were there projectors on their windows as well?  Any proof that any of this is anything more than a fairy tale.

1) Because the windows are video screens
2) The planes used for civilian flights are remote controlled
3) No, the pilots have better things to do than look for curvature.
1)Your an idiot if thats a serious post(please tell me your trolling)
2)they could not remote control the Concorde, its too advanced and the tech was not that good in the 80's and 90's
3)the pilots get bored up there when they hit auto pilot, they look out the windows all the time


and military jets would have no reason to make these "video screens"

1) So it can't be remote controlled, but it can be auto piloted? How's that work?
2) Let's pretend this is true, and a pilot notices that he doesn't see any curvature. Which is he going to assume; that there's a massive conspiracy that he just stumbled into, or that there are factors he doesn't know about coming into play? The conspiracy's greatest trick was to convince the world that for the Earth to be any shape other than oblate spheroid is pure insanity.
1)Remote controls means that 100% of the flight is controlled from the ground. This means takeoff and landing. Auto pilot means that once the pilots reached their altitude they set a course for the plane to follow once its in its cruising altitude. We just started using UAV's about 15 years ago and they are much smaller and less complex than the Concorde. on top of that we only have concepts right now of UCAV....but yet we could remote control the Concorde in the 80's? I doubt it..
2)But the pilot would see a curvature


Your going way off point again.

The original point is you can see a curvature in a high enough altitude and its possible to take these flights on military jets from these private companies. and people fly them every day. makes no sense to do that if it was a big cover up.
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2011, 10:51:30 AM »
The Concorde purportedly flew that high.

But, the point that people are trying to make is that you can take a ride in a military vehicle that will go that high.

No, you can take a ride in a military vehicle which will pretend to go that high, and will merely project an image of curvature via the windows.

Do you have anything to back this up, other than it must be true because otherwise it would prove us wrong?

Much like the Higgs boson, it's an unlikelihood promoted by necessity.

This is a conjecture, based on no proof, but it suites your needs and therefore, you will hold onto that belief.  How do you project an image onto a canopy that is completely flawless that the people inside will believe beyond any doubt that it is real?  How does the pilot fly with this image projected onto the canopy?  Did the Concorde fleet have these projectors on every single porthole on every single jet?  What about the pilots, were there projectors on their windows as well?  Any proof that any of this is anything more than a fairy tale.

1) Because the windows are video screens
2) The planes used for civilian flights are remote controlled
3) No, the pilots have better things to do than look for curvature.
1)Your an idiot if thats a serious post(please tell me your trolling)
2)they could not remote control the Concorde, its too advanced and the tech was not that good in the 80's and 90's
3)the pilots get bored up there when they hit auto pilot, they look out the windows all the time


and military jets would have no reason to make these "video screens"

1) So it can't be remote controlled, but it can be auto piloted? How's that work?
2) Let's pretend this is true, and a pilot notices that he doesn't see any curvature. Which is he going to assume; that there's a massive conspiracy that he just stumbled into, or that there are factors he doesn't know about coming into play? The conspiracy's greatest trick was to convince the world that for the Earth to be any shape other than oblate spheroid is pure insanity.
1)Remote controls means that 100% of the flight is controlled from the ground. This means takeoff and landing. Auto pilot means that once the pilots reached their altitude they set a course for the plane to follow once its in its cruising altitude. We just started using UAV's about 15 years ago and they are much smaller and less complex than the Concorde. on top of that we only have concepts right now of UCAV....but yet we could remote control the Concorde in the 80's? I doubt it..
2)But the pilot would see a curvature


Your going way off point again.

The original point is you can see a curvature in a high enough altitude and its possible to take these flights on military jets from these private companies. and people fly them every day. makes no sense to do that if it was a big cover up.

Who said anything about takeoff and landing? The pilot can do that himself.

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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2011, 10:59:39 AM »
The Concorde purportedly flew that high.

But, the point that people are trying to make is that you can take a ride in a military vehicle that will go that high.

No, you can take a ride in a military vehicle which will pretend to go that high, and will merely project an image of curvature via the windows.

Do you have anything to back this up, other than it must be true because otherwise it would prove us wrong?

Much like the Higgs boson, it's an unlikelihood promoted by necessity.

This is a conjecture, based on no proof, but it suites your needs and therefore, you will hold onto that belief.  How do you project an image onto a canopy that is completely flawless that the people inside will believe beyond any doubt that it is real?  How does the pilot fly with this image projected onto the canopy?  Did the Concorde fleet have these projectors on every single porthole on every single jet?  What about the pilots, were there projectors on their windows as well?  Any proof that any of this is anything more than a fairy tale.

1) Because the windows are video screens
2) The planes used for civilian flights are remote controlled
3) No, the pilots have better things to do than look for curvature.
1)Your an idiot if thats a serious post(please tell me your trolling)
2)they could not remote control the Concorde, its too advanced and the tech was not that good in the 80's and 90's
3)the pilots get bored up there when they hit auto pilot, they look out the windows all the time


and military jets would have no reason to make these "video screens"

1) So it can't be remote controlled, but it can be auto piloted? How's that work?
2) Let's pretend this is true, and a pilot notices that he doesn't see any curvature. Which is he going to assume; that there's a massive conspiracy that he just stumbled into, or that there are factors he doesn't know about coming into play? The conspiracy's greatest trick was to convince the world that for the Earth to be any shape other than oblate spheroid is pure insanity.
1)Remote controls means that 100% of the flight is controlled from the ground. This means takeoff and landing. Auto pilot means that once the pilots reached their altitude they set a course for the plane to follow once its in its cruising altitude. We just started using UAV's about 15 years ago and they are much smaller and less complex than the Concorde. on top of that we only have concepts right now of UCAV....but yet we could remote control the Concorde in the 80's? I doubt it..
2)But the pilot would see a curvature


Your going way off point again.

The original point is you can see a curvature in a high enough altitude and its possible to take these flights on military jets from these private companies. and people fly them every day. makes no sense to do that if it was a big cover up.

Who said anything about takeoff and landing? The pilot can do that himself.

im not understanding you. then when does the remote control thing come into play?
is auto pilot remote control?
well in that case every single plane is remote control unless your flying a WWII plane

but the term "remote control" usually means controlled from the ground like a UAV from start to finish
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2011, 11:01:11 AM »

Who said anything about takeoff and landing? The pilot can do that himself.

The pilots are in a hypnotic sleep the rest of the time.  They do not remember the flight and images of a flat horizon are projected onto their brains.

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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2011, 11:03:29 AM »
This isn't that complicated, people. When a civilian is on a flight, the pilot takes off and then command takes control of the plane, relinquishing control when it comes time to land.

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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2011, 11:04:44 AM »
This isn't that complicated, people. When a civilian is on a flight, the pilot takes off and then command takes control of the plane, relinquishing control when it comes time to land.

so back to the point:

The original point is you can see a curvature in a high enough altitude and its possible to take these flights on military jets from these private companies. and people fly them every day. makes no sense to do that if it was a big cover up.


and in a Mig-29 you sit right behind the pilot so you can see he is flying:
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2011, 11:17:12 AM »
They were not flights, they were video games that the passengers were tricked into believing were real.  I know this because otherwise, it would disprove the flat earth theory.

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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2011, 11:45:42 AM »
They were not flights, they were video games that the passengers were tricked into believing were real.  I know this because otherwise, it would disprove the flat earth theory.
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2011, 01:46:30 PM »
I don't have the money to throw away to take a trip to Russia to take a high altitude flight to see less curvature that I can see from high-altitude balloon photos. Neither would I be impressed by the amount of curvature apparent in those photos, as it is exactly what I expect to see; you would know this of course, if you actually read or comprehended any of the myriad of posts already made on this subject.
LMAO! i love how you guys go off topic every day

point is at the edge of space you can see curvatures and continents. people can actually see whats where and like I said these flights are flown constantly and are booked...if its such a giant conspiracy cover up why would they just send people up there and show them?
This is not off-topic in the slightest. If you were capable of reading comprehension at the same level you are capable of making extravagant untrue claims, you would see this.
The point is I would expect to see curvature and continents, just as you said I would. I have no doubt I would see curvature. I have no doubt that the vast majority of balloon photos are legitimate.
What would be the pointing of spending my hard earned dollars to take a high-altitude flight?
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2011, 02:10:08 AM »
I don't have the money to throw away to take a trip to Russia to take a high altitude flight to see less curvature that I can see from high-altitude balloon photos. Neither would I be impressed by the amount of curvature apparent in those photos, as it is exactly what I expect to see; you would know this of course, if you actually read or comprehended any of the myriad of posts already made on this subject.
LMAO! i love how you guys go off topic every day

point is at the edge of space you can see curvatures and continents. people can actually see whats where and like I said these flights are flown constantly and are booked...if its such a giant conspiracy cover up why would they just send people up there and show them?
This is not off-topic in the slightest. If you were capable of reading comprehension at the same level you are capable of making extravagant untrue claims, you would see this.
The point is I would expect to see curvature and continents, just as you said I would. I have no doubt I would see curvature. I have no doubt that the vast majority of balloon photos are legitimate.
What would be the pointing of spending my hard earned dollars to take a high-altitude flight?
www.rif.org

why would them make a high altitude flight if you can debunk the conspiracy? they wouldn't..but they have it so it must not be a conspiracy
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2011, 03:14:07 AM »
It is not a real flight, it is just a projection on the canopy to make it look like they are seeing the curvature of the Earth.  I don't need evidence, I am a zetetic.

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« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2011, 06:22:16 AM »
It is not a real flight, it is just a projection on the canopy to make it look like they are seeing the curvature of the Earth.  I don't need evidence, I am a zetetic.
Science: "That ice cube is melting because the temperature is above freezing."
Zetetism: "I have no way of knowing if that ice cube is made of ice. I think it is actually 'anti-ice' made by the Conspiracy, covering up the fact that ice is actually diamond. Those pesky globularists."
we're expected to throw up our hands and just BELIEVE.

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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2011, 08:21:05 AM »
It is not a real flight, it is just a projection on the canopy to make it look like they are seeing the curvature of the Earth.  I don't need evidence, I am a zetetic.

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« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2011, 10:52:54 AM »
Reading comprehension seems to be poor among the latest group of globular fanatics.
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« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2011, 11:12:46 AM »
Reading comprehension seems to be poor among the latest group of globular fanatics.

Focusing and staying on topic seems like its never been a trait of the flat earth cult followers
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2011, 03:48:30 PM »
It is not a real flight, it is just a projection on the canopy to make it look like they are seeing the curvature of the Earth.  I don't need evidence, I am a zetetic.
When exactly does the projection begin?
You can clearly experience for yourself that you are approaching and boarding the plane.
When you are inside, you still see stuff that was around there before you came in.
Not to mention the Gs you are about to experience, how do they "project" Gs?

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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2011, 05:05:42 PM »
It is not a real flight, it is just a projection on the canopy to make it look like they are seeing the curvature of the Earth.  I don't need evidence, I am a zetetic.
When exactly does the projection begin?
You can clearly experience for yourself that you are approaching and boarding the plane.
When you are inside, you still see stuff that was around there before you came in.
Not to mention the Gs you are about to experience, how do they "project" Gs?

they cant fight this one

all they can do is ignore it or go off topic
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2011, 06:31:28 PM »
heres how it kinda works

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« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2011, 10:14:55 PM »
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2011, 10:23:44 PM »
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

I have and I think quite a few more of us here have as well. 

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« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2011, 12:35:44 AM »
heres how it kinda works


no no please, the FEs clearly see this is a fake...  ::)

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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2011, 06:49:52 AM »
^^^
FE's have no response to this. like i said they cant argue it
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2011, 02:39:38 PM »
I don't have the money to throw away to take a trip to Russia to take a high altitude flight to see less curvature that I can see from high-altitude balloon photos. Neither would I be impressed by the amount of curvature apparent in those photos, as it is exactly what I expect to see; you would know this of course, if you actually read or comprehended any of the myriad of posts already made on this subject.
LMAO! i love how you guys go off topic every day

point is at the edge of space you can see curvatures and continents. people can actually see whats where and like I said these flights are flown constantly and are booked...if its such a giant conspiracy cover up why would they just send people up there and show them?
This is not off-topic in the slightest. If you were capable of reading comprehension at the same level you are capable of making extravagant untrue claims, you would see this.
The point is I would expect to see curvature and continents, just as you said I would. I have no doubt I would see curvature. I have no doubt that the vast majority of balloon photos are legitimate.
What would be the pointing of spending my hard earned dollars to take a high-altitude flight?
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alex00

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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2011, 04:19:09 PM »
I don't have the money to throw away to take a trip to Russia to take a high altitude flight to see less curvature that I can see from high-altitude balloon photos. Neither would I be impressed by the amount of curvature apparent in those photos, as it is exactly what I expect to see; you would know this of course, if you actually read or comprehended any of the myriad of posts already made on this subject.
LMAO! i love how you guys go off topic every day

point is at the edge of space you can see curvatures and continents. people can actually see whats where and like I said these flights are flown constantly and are booked...if its such a giant conspiracy cover up why would they just send people up there and show them?
This is not off-topic in the slightest. If you were capable of reading comprehension at the same level you are capable of making extravagant untrue claims, you would see this.
The point is I would expect to see curvature and continents, just as you said I would. I have no doubt I would see curvature. I have no doubt that the vast majority of balloon photos are legitimate.
What would be the pointing of spending my hard earned dollars to take a high-altitude flight?
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if you have no doubt you would see curves then how is the earth flat?
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Re: Why dont you send a baloon up and take pictures? Why not rent a plane?
« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2011, 06:05:45 PM »
Have you even been past 35k feet?
Yes, on a transatlantic flight. Why?
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