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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2011, 04:00:17 AM »

230mb is a big download.

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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2011, 06:56:29 AM »

I'll install it but I fail to see how it'll impress me.
I run directX games, forums, and Netflix. Two of the three are basically windows only. Frankly speaking, no matter how good it is, most of what I do can't be done on it due to proprietary software restrictions.

So unless it can do all that, it's worthless to me.

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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2011, 03:08:58 PM »

I have started installing OpenBSD on a virtual machine.

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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2011, 03:18:34 PM »

And it is installed.

Now I just have to figure out how to install a gui.

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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2011, 04:28:30 PM »

Here are 5 reasons not to go any where near OpenBSD

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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 04:54:22 PM »

Here are 5 reasons not to go any where near OpenBSD

I am installing it on a Virtual Machine.

It's been a few hours and so far I managed to get firefox to work. pkg is a bitch though because it keeps failing to find packages and I have to keep refreshing the pkg_path. Very annoying.

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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2011, 05:05:26 PM »

So I finally have xfce installed and running.

I have to say this:
OpenBSD has not impressed me. At all. Even downloading and installing something like Gimp is slower than it is in windows. Frankly speaking, I might as well run MSDos with Windows 3.1

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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 06:09:15 PM »

I have to keep refreshing the pkg_path. Very annoying.

You can automate that, you know

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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2011, 06:10:25 PM »

Quote from: PizzaPlanet on June 16, 2011, 06:09:15 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on June 16, 2011, 04:54:22 PM
I have to keep refreshing the pkg_path. Very annoying.
You can automate that, you know

Yeah but I didn't bother. When I set a variable I expect it to stay set for the duration of the session.

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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2011, 06:38:22 PM »

Yeah but I didn't bother. When I set a variable I expect it to stay set for the duration of the session.

And that it does.

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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 02:26:02 AM »

Quote from: PizzaPlanet on June 16, 2011, 06:38:22 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on June 16, 2011, 06:10:25 PM
Yeah but I didn't bother. When I set a variable I expect it to stay set for the duration of the session.
And that it does.

Nope. I've had it stop working in the middle of a session. Very annoying.

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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 04:30:00 AM »

It's been a few hours and so far I managed to get firefox to work.

Dude, what? Even PizzaPlanet, a total Unix n00blet, was playing Pingus in a fully functional Xfce installation two hours after booting the installer.

Also, if your downloads are slow, you're probably using a shit package mirror. Try a different one.

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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2011, 07:26:52 AM »

Quote from: Lorddave on June 16, 2011, 04:54:22 PM
It's been a few hours and so far I managed to get firefox to work.

Dude, what? Even PizzaPlanet, a total Unix n00blet, was playing Pingus in a fully functional Xfce installation two hours after booting the installer.

Also, if your downloads are slow, you're probably using a shit package mirror. Try a different one.

Did he have to constantly write a case sensitive "export PKG_PATH=..." several times in the same session window to try and fix the "not found" errors?
Did he install Xfce manually, package by package, because pkg_add Xfce didn't work?

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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2011, 07:43:58 AM »

Did he have to constantly write a case sensitive "export PKG_PATH=..." several times in the same session window to try and fix the "not found" errors?

What do you mean by "session"? It will be persistent throughout the process you set it in, but if you terminate that process (for example, by closing the terminal window) and start a new one, then you will lose it.

Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 07:26:52 AM

Did he install Xfce manually, package by package, because pkg_add Xfce didn't work?

Unfortunately, OpenBSD has no Xfce metapackage. However, since you can install about half a dozen packages to get a basic Xfce installation (albeit not all the possible gadgets you can install with it), you can simply run something like pkg_add xfce4-session xfce4-panel xfce-utils xfwm4 xfdesktop gtk-xfce-engine and let it do its thing. If your mirror has half-decent link capacity, it won't take very long.

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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2011, 07:50:02 AM »

Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 07:26:52 AM
Did he have to constantly write a case sensitive "export PKG_PATH=..." several times in the same session window to try and fix the "not found" errors?

What do you mean by "session"? It will be persistent throughout the process you set it in, but if you terminate that process (for example, by closing the terminal window) and start a new one, then you will lose it.
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session means terminal window in this case.

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Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 07:26:52 AM
Did he install Xfce manually, package by package, because pkg_add Xfce didn't work?

Unfortunately, OpenBSD has no Xfce metapackage. However, since you can install about half a dozen packages to get a basic Xfce installation (albeit not all the possible gadgets you can install with it), you can simply run something like pkg_add xfce4-session xfce4-panel xfce-utils xfwm4 xfdesktop gtk-xfce-engine and let it do its thing. If your mirror has half-decent link capacity, it won't take very long.
oh sure, NOW you tell me.
Though I think the util package wasn't working for some reason. Gotta double check that since I was having so many problems with the path issue.

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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2011, 08:04:28 AM »

session means terminal window in this case.

You're probably doing something wrong. Are you able to paste a transcript of your shell session between you typing export PKG_PATH='whatever' and it not recognising it?

Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 07:50:02 AM

oh sure, NOW you tell me.

I didn't know you were going to be installing Xfce before.

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Though I think the util package wasn't working for some reason. Gotta double check that since I was having so many problems with the path issue.

Some mirrors are simply shit. There are two in Australia; I had to switch to Intenode's mirror because AARNet's seems to have half the files corrupted. This is nothing to do with OpenBSD, but the maintainers of the individual mirror sites.

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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2011, 09:13:44 AM »

Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 07:50:02 AM
session means terminal window in this case.

You're probably doing something wrong. Are you able to paste a transcript of your shell session between you typing export PKG_PATH='whatever' and it not recognising it?

Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 07:50:02 AM
oh sure, NOW you tell me.

I didn't know you were going to be installing Xfce before.

Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 07:50:02 AM
Though I think the util package wasn't working for some reason. Gotta double check that since I was having so many problems with the path issue.

Some mirrors are simply shit. There are two in Australia; I had to switch to Intenode's mirror because AARNet's seems to have half the files corrupted. This is nothing to do with OpenBSD, but the maintainers of the individual mirror sites.

No. My pc is off. But I'll do this: i'll wipe the install and start fresh tonight. If I run into the same problems I'll e-mail a transcript.

As for the mirror: I'll try a few others as well.

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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2011, 02:43:38 PM »

Well I must have done something wrong because I am now up and running after 30 minutes. I'm typing this from Xfce4 as we speak.

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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2011, 02:50:51 PM »

So now it seems I can't alter the display. "The video driver does not support video outputs"
Not even sure how to find out what video driver (or any driver) is installed. There doesn't seem to be an equivalent "control Panel"

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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2011, 03:22:18 PM »

Know any good package managers for XFCE?

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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2011, 07:20:26 PM »

So now it seems I can't alter the display. "The video driver does not support video outputs"

Where is that message originating from?

Try using xrandr (type man xrandr for usage information) to experiment with changing the display. Editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the proper way to permanently configure X, but I shudder every time I have to deal with it because it's so fucking awkward. The good news is that once you have it working, you usually don't have to touch it again.

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Not even sure how to find out what video driver (or any driver) is installed.

Read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see which driver it's using. For example, mine is using the intel driver:

steven@luke:~$ tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log [2639070.672] (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" [2639070.672] (**) <default keyboard>: CustomKeycodes disabled [2639070.672] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "<default keyboard>" (type: KEYBOARD) [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "SEC", prod id 22615 [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x900"x0.0 96.31 1440 1504 1536 1760 900 903 906 912 -hsync -vsync (54.7 kHz) [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "SEC", prod id 22615 [2639384.078] (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button

Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 02:50:51 PM

There doesn't seem to be an equivalent "control Panel"

Yes.

Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 03:22:18 PM

Know any good package managers for XFCE?

A quick Google search for "openbsd graphical package manager" brings up pkg_mgr:

http://dawn.rhaalovely.net/pkg_mgr/

It currently only has a curses interface, but according to that page it may soon have a GTK+ interface also. You can get it by typing pkg_add pkg_mgr (as root).

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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2011, 07:35:09 PM »

Dude, what? Even PizzaPlanet, a total Unix n00blet, was playing Pingus in a fully functional Xfce installation two hours after booting the installer.

No, I sent you a screenshot of me having completed Pingus 2 hours after booting the installer.

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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2011, 03:56:37 AM »

Quote from: Parsifal on June 17, 2011, 07:20:26 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 02:50:51 PM
So now it seems I can't alter the display. "The video driver does not support video outputs"

Where is that message originating from?

I go to application menu, settings, display. Then the error pops up.
It's possible it's because I'm running it via VMWare.

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Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 02:50:51 PM
Not even sure how to find out what video driver (or any driver) is installed.

Read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see which driver it's using. For example, mine is using the intel driver:

steven@luke:~$ tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log [2639070.672] (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" [2639070.672] (**) <default keyboard>: CustomKeycodes disabled [2639070.672] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "<default keyboard>" (type: KEYBOARD) [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "SEC", prod id 22615 [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x900"x0.0 96.31 1440 1504 1536 1760 900 903 906 912 -hsync -vsync (54.7 kHz) [2639096.156] (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "SEC", prod id 22615 [2639384.078] (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button

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[2722053.384] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "832x624" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "416x312" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (hsync out of range)
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[2722053.385] (--) vmwlegacy(0): Virtual size is 800x600 (pitch 800)
[2722053.385] (**) vmwlegacy(0): *Default mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
[2722053.385] (**) vmwlegacy(0): *Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2   36.00  800 824 896 1024  600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz)
[2722053.385] (**) vmwlegacy(0): *Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 59.9 Hz
[2722053.385] (II) vmwlegacy(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9   25.18  640 656 752 800  480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)
[2722053.385] (==) vmwlegacy(0): DPI set to (96, 96)

It looks like it knows I'm running through VMWare.

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Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 02:50:51 PM
There doesn't seem to be an equivalent "control Panel"

Yes.

So it doesn't let me easily access, alter, or simply check my hardware settings without having to go into terminal and type in some kind of command to display a specific hardware type?

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Quote from: Lorddave on June 17, 2011, 03:22:18 PM
Know any good package managers for XFCE?

A quick Google search for "openbsd graphical package manager" brings up pkg_mgr:

http://dawn.rhaalovely.net/pkg_mgr/

It currently only has a curses interface, but according to that page it may soon have a GTK+ interface also. You can get it by typing pkg_add pkg_mgr (as root).

Yeah I installed pkg_mgr and it's alright but being totally ascii it doesn't function as well as I'd like it too. (it locked up the terminal at one point) Was hoping for something GTK+

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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2011, 04:03:27 AM »

Also:
Why is it that deleting something off my desktop in XFCE will delete it but the icon still remains on my desktop?

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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2011, 04:23:01 AM »

I go to application menu, settings, display. Then the error pops up.
It's possible it's because I'm running it via VMWare.

That works fine for me, though it definitely sounds like a driver-specific issue.

It looks like it knows I'm running through VMWare.

Yes, it is using the vmwlegacy driver for your virtual video card. PizzaPlanet had luck using xrandr to set the resolution with the vmware driver, but I have no idea if the vmwlegacy driver will behave the same way. Google tells me that it doesn't support the PreferredMode directive in xorg.conf, which is the normal way of telling it what resolution you want.

You can try the xrandr fix suggested in this thread, if you like.

So it doesn't let me easily access, alter, or simply check my hardware settings without having to go into terminal and type in some kind of command to display a specific hardware type?

If you haven't installed a program which does that, then no.

Quote from: Lorddave on June 18, 2011, 04:03:27 AM

Yeah I installed pkg_mgr and it's alright but being totally ascii it doesn't function as well as I'd like it too. (it locked up the terminal at one point) Was hoping for something GTK+

Many of the most useful Unix programs are not point-and-click. I don't see what's so terrible about having to use a text-oriented application. Your definition of functioning well seems to be "babysitting the user."

Also:
Why is it that deleting something off my desktop in XFCE will delete it but the icon still remains on my desktop?

wat

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« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2011, 04:23:56 AM »

Also:
Why is it that deleting something off my desktop in XFCE will delete it but the icon still remains on my desktop?

wat
I just tried it twice, and it didn't happen.

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« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2011, 04:48:18 AM »

Quote from: Parsifal on June 18, 2011, 04:23:01 AM

Quote from: Lorddave on June 18, 2011, 03:56:37 AM
I go to application menu, settings, display. Then the error pops up.
It's possible it's because I'm running it via VMWare.

That works fine for me, though it definitely sounds like a driver-specific issue.

That's my thought too. Not going to worry about it.

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Quote from: Lorddave on June 18, 2011, 03:56:37 AM
It looks like it knows I'm running through VMWare.

Yes, it is using the vmwlegacy driver for your virtual video card. PizzaPlanet had luck using xrandr to set the resolution with the vmware driver, but I have no idea if the vmwlegacy driver will behave the same way. Google tells me that it doesn't support the PreferredMode directive in xorg.conf, which is the normal way of telling it what resolution you want.

You can try the xrandr fix suggested in this thread, if you like.

Maybe, but I don't see the point honestly. It's not like I'm going to be using this as my default OS. Not when it can't do 2/3 of the things I need it to do.

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Quote from: Lorddave on June 18, 2011, 03:56:37 AM
Yeah I installed pkg_mgr and it's alright but being totally ascii it doesn't function as well as I'd like it too. (it locked up the terminal at one point) Was hoping for something GTK+

Many of the most useful Unix programs are not point-and-click. I don't see what's so terrible about having to use a text-oriented application. Your definition of functioning well seems to be "babysitting the user."

Well how about the fact that it doesn't auto-redraw the screen correctly when I resize? If I start with a non-full screen terminal window then full screen that terminal, the list expands as though it now had full screen but it doesn't draw the extra space.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Lord_dave/BSD-Before.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Lord_dave/BSD-after.png

Now it could just be a driver issue (again) but all these little problems are starting to pile up.

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Quote from: Lorddave on June 18, 2011, 04:03:27 AM
Also:
Why is it that deleting something off my desktop in XFCE will delete it but the icon still remains on my desktop?
wat

You heard me. It was stuck on my desktop for a good 15 minutes before it finally vanished.
Here, I reproduced the problem.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Lord_dave/BSD-weirderror.png

The file in the trash bin? I dragged that in but it's icon still persisted on the desktop. I could even drag it into the trash bin again but it gave that error.

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