A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS

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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2011, 11:20:47 PM »
Do you really hold that the claim is outlandish?  Its stuff like this that gives us FEers a bad name.

three-dimensional-world is a bad troll. I wouldn't pay him much attention if I were you.
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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2011, 03:15:21 AM »
I am not arguing against the idea that he was a doctor, but am genuinely curious about the man who started the modern incarnation of this theory. What did he have a doctorate in, or is that known?

His doctorate was in medicine.


Calling yourself a doctor doesn't make you one
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selling the secrets for prolonging human life and curing every disease imaginable

All physicians sell secrets to extending human life. It's called getting health advice during your checkup.

Physicians also sell elixirs for treating nearly every disease and ailment imaginable. They're called prescriptions and kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies for peddling their brand. See the movie: Love and Other Drugs
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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2011, 03:26:24 AM »
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The links explanation wound't work,
and again, large amounts of extra people who have to be bribed with huge amount of money, yet more people who have to be on the conspiracy. The electro magnet theory is verifiable and falsifiable, go over to a museum pendulum and check for magnetism. Oh and the pendulum experiment could quite easily be replicated, some one would of found out by now.

I didn't say it was a conspiracy. Museums and schools use electromagnets and motors to power their pendulum exhibits because without them air friction would stop them from swinging after 15 minutes.

Nope, what about the original facault pendulum, then went for days, and it existed before people were able to produce electricity.

Foucault's original pendulum didn't go on for days. It had to be reset several times an hour.

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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2011, 07:53:39 PM »
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The links explanation wound't work,
and again, large amounts of extra people who have to be bribed with huge amount of money, yet more people who have to be on the conspiracy. The electro magnet theory is verifiable and falsifiable, go over to a museum pendulum and check for magnetism. Oh and the pendulum experiment could quite easily be replicated, some one would of found out by now.

I didn't say it was a conspiracy. Museums and schools use electromagnets and motors to power their pendulum exhibits because without them air friction would stop them from swinging after 15 minutes.

Nope, what about the original facault pendulum, then went for days, and it existed before people were able to produce electricity.

Foucault's original pendulum didn't go on for days. It had to be reset several times an hour.
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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2011, 08:34:17 PM »
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The links explanation wound't work,
and again, large amounts of extra people who have to be bribed with huge amount of money, yet more people who have to be on the conspiracy. The electro magnet theory is verifiable and falsifiable, go over to a museum pendulum and check for magnetism. Oh and the pendulum experiment could quite easily be replicated, some one would of found out by now.

I didn't say it was a conspiracy. Museums and schools use electromagnets and motors to power their pendulum exhibits because without them air friction would stop them from swinging after 15 minutes.

Nope, what about the original facault pendulum, then went for days, and it existed before people were able to produce electricity.

Foucault's original pendulum didn't go on for days. It had to be reset several times an hour.
Source?

It's true. These aren't perpetual motion machines, and that isn't the point.

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Tausami

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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2011, 08:29:41 AM »
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Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham

Rowbotham wasn't a doctor.

Read Flat Earth: The History of an Infamous Idea by Christine Garwood. He was.

Actually, he called himself Dr. Samuel Birley when he wanted to be anonymous. Try actually researching things before saying them.

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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2011, 08:34:52 AM »
I am not arguing against the idea that he was a doctor, but am genuinely curious about the man who started the modern incarnation of this theory. What did he have a doctorate in, or is that known?

His doctorate was in medicine.




I don't believe this, but regardless, it is considered misleading to refer to someone as a doctor outside of their field, particularly when arguing about a highly controversial and completely different field in which a doctorate's words would have much more weight than a normal person's.

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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2011, 01:20:13 PM »
...reminds me of a certain chemist.  ::)
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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2011, 01:02:15 PM »
I'm gonna leave this right here.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias


Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2011, 09:25:54 AM »
Have you personally performed or seen performed the The Cavendish Experiment?

I'm going to be the answer is no but for some reason..... you still think it's true..
Yes. My error margin in finding G was pretty poor, about 20% (measured value 5.43x10^-11 Nm^2kg^-2). It was my first experiment at Manchester, and such is not as good as some of my later experiments. I have my logbook in my room if you have any questions.



Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2011, 01:44:23 PM »
yet another thread goes quiet in the face of overwhelming and incontrovertible evidence for the globular nature of our world, why does that keep happening?

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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2011, 01:56:59 PM »
yet another thread goes quiet in the face of overwhelming and incontrovertible evidence for the globular nature of our world, why does that keep happening?

Nice bump. Are you searching through the archives to find any debate that wasn't resolved? You have a lot of work on your hands  :)

Anyway, the first explanation to come to my head about varying gravitation is the varying density of materials that make up the Earth (note: in my model, gravity does exist but is not the largest contributing factor).
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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2011, 06:19:23 PM »
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The links explanation wound't work,
and again, large amounts of extra people who have to be bribed with huge amount of money, yet more people who have to be on the conspiracy. The electro magnet theory is verifiable and falsifiable, go over to a museum pendulum and check for magnetism. Oh and the pendulum experiment could quite easily be replicated, some one would of found out by now.

I didn't say it was a conspiracy. Museums and schools use electromagnets and motors to power their pendulum exhibits because without them air friction would stop them from swinging after 15 minutes.

Step 1 get a video camera.
Step 2 film yourself throwing a load of small magnetic objects at the pendulums.
Step 3 post results hear.

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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2011, 07:01:29 PM »
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The links explanation wound't work,
and again, large amounts of extra people who have to be bribed with huge amount of money, yet more people who have to be on the conspiracy. The electro magnet theory is verifiable and falsifiable, go over to a museum pendulum and check for magnetism. Oh and the pendulum experiment could quite easily be replicated, some one would of found out by now.

I didn't say it was a conspiracy. Museums and schools use electromagnets and motors to power their pendulum exhibits because without them air friction would stop them from swinging after 15 minutes.

Step 1 get a video camera.
Step 2 film yourself throwing a load of small magnetic objects at the pendulums.
Step 3 post results here.

What, exactly, are you trying to say here?

Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2011, 05:01:05 AM »
Back to the topic:
I have done the Cavendish experiment, and decided the gravitational constant to a quite high degree of accuracy (if i remember correctly, was some time ago). I too can pick up my old report from the experiment if wished for.

So, can everyone accept that gravity exists as a (perhaps fictitious) force now? At least I proved it to my self. You who doubt it should do it, it is a really simple experiment. You can easily do a conspiracy-check before, during and after to make sure everything is in order.

Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2011, 02:24:55 PM »
attempts to condem spirituality because of a single mosaic preliterate scribes attempt to declare the earth to be flat, square, and the absolute center of the universe, while the sun, moon and tiny stars circled the earth daily, may have resulted in innumerable death and torture for heracy, a complete end to the vastly advanced mayan culture, because their pyramids were astronomical observatories, and they were aware of the suns magnetosphere and the orbital planetscompared  to emperor constantines common mans religion, christianity, merged with paganism, while the nobility of our ancient world could go either way, might turn off some peoples vision of the spiritual or unseen element of living creatures, but in so doing puts them in a similar realm as others who existed in the realm of transgenic truth. To discover the realm of spirituality is something that must be discovered, our magnitude of literacy fails at description at our current magnitude which does not believe " truth " the absense of deception, is real, but instead uses words and numbers to prove or disprove anything the client is willing to pay for. Our academic caste system, shuns information technology, you can't get a degree in networking engineering, our academic caste system graduates nobility and hireling alike, declaring themselves the leading edge of science, while odsolete when compared to the information revolution bring them down into a realm whereby all they are capable of teaching are things like units of measure, chronological histories, and data aquisition technology, even then they are there for the mentally challenged, for education comes from interest and interest alone, the right of the route of access to truth is an inalienable human right. We need to resurrect respect in government, and eliminate lawyers,judges,politicians, and their lobbies who pay the congressmen and senators to enact their predatory laws, in a world having abandoned nature, replacing it with predatory law and throway fashion, denaturing the earth, as we draw ever nearer the next great ice age, which humanity as we know it will cease to exist, without absolute objectivity, and embracing information technology, capable of guiding us with direction based on the variables, yet to be identified, in a world governed by law given credibility by academic ventures, who haven't bothered to study the soil we walk on, and the species it contains, a gaggle of fools who discuss things like light, and dimensions, and other unseen imaginary concepts, declaring spirituality, the way home to be a myth, like instinct a word describing the complex cultures and languages of other species, we are the idiocy leading those possessed by the demons of ignorance, bla bla bla

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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2011, 05:32:09 AM »
attempts to condem spirituality because of a single mosaic preliterate scribes attempt to declare the earth to be flat, square, and the absolute center of the universe, while the sun, moon and tiny stars circled the earth daily, may have resulted in innumerable death and torture for heracy, a complete end to the vastly advanced mayan culture, because their pyramids were astronomical observatories, and they were aware of the suns magnetosphere and the orbital planetscompared  to emperor constantines common mans religion, christianity, merged with paganism, while the nobility of our ancient world could go either way, might turn off some peoples vision of the spiritual or unseen element of living creatures, but in so doing puts them in a similar realm as others who existed in the realm of transgenic truth. To discover the realm of spirituality is something that must be discovered, our magnitude of literacy fails at description at our current magnitude which does not believe " truth " the absense of deception, is real, but instead uses words and numbers to prove or disprove anything the client is willing to pay for. Our academic caste system, shuns information technology, you can't get a degree in networking engineering, our academic caste system graduates nobility and hireling alike, declaring themselves the leading edge of science, while odsolete when compared to the information revolution bring them down into a realm whereby all they are capable of teaching are things like units of measure, chronological histories, and data aquisition technology, even then they are there for the mentally challenged, for education comes from interest and interest alone, the right of the route of access to truth is an inalienable human right. We need to resurrect respect in government, and eliminate lawyers,judges,politicians, and their lobbies who pay the congressmen and senators to enact their predatory laws, in a world having abandoned nature, replacing it with predatory law and throway fashion, denaturing the earth, as we draw ever nearer the next great ice age, which humanity as we know it will cease to exist, without absolute objectivity, and embracing information technology, capable of guiding us with direction based on the variables, yet to be identified, in a world governed by law given credibility by academic ventures, who haven't bothered to study the soil we walk on, and the species it contains, a gaggle of fools who discuss things like light, and dimensions, and other unseen imaginary concepts, declaring spirituality, the way home to be a myth, like instinct a word describing the complex cultures and languages of other species, we are the idiocy leading those possessed by the demons of ignorance, bla bla bla

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Re: A QUESTION TO ROUND EARTH BELIEVERS
« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2011, 10:41:50 PM »
attempts to condem spirituality because of a single mosaic preliterate scribes attempt to declare the earth to be flat, square, and the absolute center of the universe, while the sun, moon and tiny stars circled the earth daily, may have resulted in innumerable death and torture for heracy, a complete end to the vastly advanced mayan culture, because their pyramids were astronomical observatories, and they were aware of the suns magnetosphere and the orbital planetscompared  to emperor constantines common mans religion, christianity, merged with paganism, while the nobility of our ancient world could go either way, might turn off some peoples vision of the spiritual or unseen element of living creatures, but in so doing puts them in a similar realm as others who existed in the realm of transgenic truth. To discover the realm of spirituality is something that must be discovered, our magnitude of literacy fails at description at our current magnitude which does not believe " truth " the absense of deception, is real, but instead uses words and numbers to prove or disprove anything the client is willing to pay for. Our academic caste system, shuns information technology, you can't get a degree in networking engineering, our academic caste system graduates nobility and hireling alike, declaring themselves the leading edge of science, while odsolete when compared to the information revolution bring them down into a realm whereby all they are capable of teaching are things like units of measure, chronological histories, and data aquisition technology, even then they are there for the mentally challenged, for education comes from interest and interest alone, the right of the route of access to truth is an inalienable human right. We need to resurrect respect in government, and eliminate lawyers,judges,politicians, and their lobbies who pay the congressmen and senators to enact their predatory laws, in a world having abandoned nature, replacing it with predatory law and throway fashion, denaturing the earth, as we draw ever nearer the next great ice age, which humanity as we know it will cease to exist, without absolute objectivity, and embracing information technology, capable of guiding us with direction based on the variables, yet to be identified, in a world governed by law given credibility by academic ventures, who haven't bothered to study the soil we walk on, and the species it contains, a gaggle of fools who discuss things like light, and dimensions, and other unseen imaginary concepts, declaring spirituality, the way home to be a myth, like instinct a word describing the complex cultures and languages of other species, we are the idiocy leading those possessed by the demons of ignorance, bla bla bla

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