Genderless parenting

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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2011, 11:03:32 AM »
It's not amusing if a woman acts like a man. It's just plain scary.
True, it is quite tragic.
I'm always swooning at the sight of daffodils.
Eh. The example was bad.
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2011, 11:08:26 AM »
What is it about a woman "acting" like a man that scares you so much?
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2011, 11:27:34 AM »
What is it about a woman "acting" like a man that scares you so much?
If that was directed at me, I don't find it scary. To be honest, people have a right to do wtf they want, but others have a right to take the mickey.
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2011, 11:33:51 AM »
Beardo said women who act like men are scary, I was wondering what was so scary about them.  I've known some mannish women, but they weren't scary or anything. I don't think they were acting, it's just how they were.

I also wonder what it means to "act like a man".

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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2011, 11:43:14 AM »
Acting like a man is very different for different situations. Often-times, it's about showing a strong, confident side of yourself and asserting yourself as a leader. This isn't universally manly, of course, and acting like this can be healthy and productive for women as well. Many men just tend to be intimidated by strong females.
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2011, 11:46:43 AM »
Yes, I reckon the more conservative males prefer their women stay in the kitchen.
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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2011, 12:00:03 PM »
Acting like a man is very different for different situations. Often-times, it's about showing a strong, confident side of yourself and asserting yourself as a leader. This isn't universally manly, of course, and acting like this can be healthy and productive for women as well. Many men just tend to be intimidated by strong females.

This is the reason some girls fall into the trap of pretending to be stupid.  However, some societal stereotypes appear to me to coincide with reality (excepting William Wordsworth who did swoon over daffodils.) 

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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2011, 12:04:36 PM »
I'd rather swoon over tomatoes.
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2011, 12:07:27 PM »
You and me both but I won't have any to swoon over till the end of June.

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« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2011, 12:30:27 PM »
As far as the parents are concerned the bullying and assumptions that he's a girl are purely society's fault. Why, just because he likes to dress and act in a way which is traditionally seen as 'girly,' should it be OK to make fun of and bully him?
Well, the way I see it, genders have specific roles within society. This is the reason they exist the way they do. If a man acts like a woman (swooning at the sight of some daffodils or shit like that) then yes, it is fine to make fun of him because it is quite amusing. Likewise if a woman acts like a man.

This is exactly the sort of attitude they hope to change. Why should a woman not be accepted on, say, a building site if she's up to the job? These attitudes are keeping a good number of women away from science, engineering, construction, and top positions in offices. Once upon a time it was universally accepted that women had no role to play in politics (Hrm, if only we'd kept that view until Margaret Thatcher popped her iron clogs.)

Surely Billy Elliot taught you not to underestimate male ballet dancers?

Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2011, 12:59:07 PM »
What is it about a woman "acting" like a man that scares you so much?

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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2011, 01:03:24 PM »
that is not acting like a man.
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« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2011, 01:08:38 PM »
In fairness, male bodybuilders scare me, too:


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Wendy

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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2011, 01:20:51 PM »
Bodybuilders don't scare me. When the nuclear winter hits, I know they and the absurdly obese will die first, along with the people with eating disorders. It's mean biker dudes(and chicks!) that scare me.
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2011, 01:39:19 PM »
I think it's kind of weird how people (myself included) react to people who don't behave the way we expect them to. 

It's perfectly acceptable for men to swoon over monster trucks, motorcycles, and guns  but not  daffodils.  Women may swoon over flowers, jewelry, clothes and shoes, but not a shiny new power drill.
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2011, 01:45:16 PM »
Women can swoon over a powerdrill all they want in my book. I just savour the symbolism. Also, I like the choice of words here. What I would describe men as doing over monster trucks, motorcycles and guns is not swooning, but gushing. Whenever somebody mentions swooning, I think of Victorian women having fainting spells because of their tight corsets.
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2011, 03:48:38 PM »
I'm glad I wasn't born in the Victorian era, I can hardly stand to wear a bra. I think I'll go burn something.

My brother just bought a Harley, if there was a squishy hole on it somewhere I'm sure he'd fuck it.
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2011, 04:42:41 PM »
Once I went swanning around and swooned over a swain.


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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2011, 05:48:21 PM »
Is it terribly unmanly to swoon over flowers, or anything beautiful? 
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2011, 07:30:55 PM »
Is it terribly unmanly to swoon over flowers, or anything beautiful? 
Yes, if you swoon over flowers and are a man, you probably like taking it in the butt.

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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2011, 10:43:25 PM »
Is it terribly unmanly to swoon over flowers, or anything beautiful? 

Stereotypically, yes. In my opinion? No.
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2011, 11:15:27 PM »
Although men are always swooning over beautiful women, and there's not much more feminine than that, the bunch of gays.



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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2011, 11:58:10 PM »
I think this is wrong. God created men and women for a purpose, and thus not revealing the gender of a newborn goes against God's law.
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« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2011, 01:41:41 AM »
Actually, that sounds pretty similar to what some Christians I know might say about this.
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2011, 02:06:57 AM »
I would replace "swoon" with "appreciate".

I appreciate beautiful things, sunsets, flowers, women, scenery etc. Doesn't sound unmanly anymore does it?
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2011, 03:19:35 AM »
If we're looking purely at stereotypes here, men are often bored by flowers and pretty scenery. Me, though, I sometimes take a moment just staring at the plains and fields outside my window and observing their simple beauty.
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« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2011, 05:33:28 AM »
True men appreciate beautiful things.
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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2011, 06:07:17 AM »
The fact that this is even newsworthy is symptomatic of a fundamental problem in society. I fully support these parents' decision.

It's not amusing if a woman acts like a man. It's just plain scary.

Let's examine another sentence of this form:

It's not amusing if a black guy acts like a white guy. It's just plain scary.

100 years ago, this wouldn't have raised an eyebrow. Today, it's considered taboo in most contexts. Fundamentally, it is no different to what you've said; you are creating stereotypes for how two groups of people are supposed to behave, and then drawing a conclusion based on those stereotypes and not on reality.

I am consistently amazed by how Western culture, with all of its outlaws and taboos on specific categories of discrimination, accepts gender stereotypes without question.
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I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2011, 07:07:42 AM »
Swooning requires fainting on a Victorian sofa and having cool lavender water rubbed on the wrists.  Let us not lose the nuances of language. 

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Re: Genderless parenting
« Reply #59 on: May 26, 2011, 07:10:11 AM »
I engaged in fisticuffs with a gentleman this afternoon. I struck him in such a way that he swooned.