GPS and Microwaves

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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2011, 01:49:07 PM »
Do you trust your microwave?

What does my trust or use of microwaves have to do with the ethics of NASA?

Obviously microwaves work. They wouldn't sell if they didn't work. Obviously Coke goes down smooth. People wouldn't drink it if it didn't go down smooth. But those basic details have nothing to do with the ethics of their parent companies and organizations.

Please cease the diversion tactics.

Yes but, if you so seriously are concerned with the ethics of the company why do you still use their product? Are you not just feeding the "beast" that you despise? 

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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2011, 10:16:41 PM »
I do not use a microwave for personal use.

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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2011, 07:48:17 AM »
Why do we all argue about the shape of the earth when every year approximately 15 million children die of hunger?!  O: How is this crucial to everyday life, we are all entitled to our own beliefs, some people believe in God others don't some people think the world is flat and others think differently. I am no scientist, no physicist but I just wanted to say that everyone is creating a mountain out of a molehill here.




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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2011, 08:10:10 AM »
Why NASA does aal this "conspiracy"? NASA has one of the lowest ┐presupost? ( I mean money given by the governement) of the scientyfic military agencies. Think of ARPA/DARPA. With its great failure rate of 99% of proyects, it actually recieves 3.200 millions of dolars. For 240 workers. Now you can open the calculator on your PC and make the opperation. Think yourself. THE GAME
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2011, 10:11:08 AM »

Instead of giving these publicly funded technologies back to the public they license out the rights for their own insatiable profit.

They have a free right to use patented technologies to make money. The more money NASA make out of their patents, the less money they need from taxes. Feel free not to use a microwave. But youre OK to use velcro as it was invented in Switzerland by someone completely unconnected with NASA. Wait a minute - wasnt Einstein a Swiss patent clerk? CONSPIRACY!!!
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2011, 08:12:34 AM »
GPS and NASA are to Satanism as Protestantism and Catholicism are to Christianity - they have minor differences in dogma but underlying arise from the same faith, and they help eachother out in their endeavours.

GPS "signals" are broadcast from a continuously fuel-replenishing fleet of high-altitude, ex-cold war fighters and bombers. The 50th Space Wing, NASA's military predecessor, neglected to decommission these planes, using them instead to conduct  one of the greatest hoaxes in history. Their coat of arms is a terrifying skeletal, goat-hoofed demon taking wing across a desolate sky.

However, as Protestantism to Catholicism, NASA's Satanic ventures and direction have expanded beyond original Satanic dogmas held by the 50th Space Wing.  Now, as shown by NASA's new logo, which contains a chevron (one fifth of a complete pentagram) they are more focussed on being one of the Satanic Order of Five Space Agencies - NASA, POCKOCMOC, CNSA, IRNSS and JAXA, whose combined logos create a recursive pentagram, one chevron of which is itself a pentagram.  This is taken to symbolise the eternal and unending nature of their deception, and to glorify their deity, Satan.

So now, the 50th Space Wing is merely one of NASA's many denominational schisms. I do not know if NASA has invented the microwave, but I would not put it past them to falsely market a supposedly new product for exorbitant cost, which in reality is no more effective than a camping stove in a cardboard box.  The shoddy workmanship visible in most microwaves certainly does remind me of the mock-up space shuttle (a deception), whose outside was made out of pottery tiles and glue, and would routinely fall off at the slightest provocation (being moved, sitting still, riding on the back of a Boeing 747, deceiving public eyes).
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2011, 08:18:32 AM »
Your gross misunderstanding of Satanism shows your lies.

Satanism is about giving in to temptation, not resisting it. Why fight that which God himself has given you?

Also: what fuel do they use? I can't imagine several thousand ships constantly hovering and being refueled for the last 30 years. No repair, no crew exchange, and a massive fuel usage.
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2011, 08:38:01 AM »
I always enjoy it when James and other flat earthers demonstrate their complete disregard for zeteticism by making up things with no observational evidence behind them.
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2011, 08:44:50 AM »
GPS and NASA are to Satanism as Protestantism and Catholicism are to Christianity - they have minor differences in dogma but underlying arise from the same faith, and they help eachother out in their endeavours.

GPS "signals" are broadcast from a continuously fuel-replenishing fleet of high-altitude, ex-cold war fighters and bombers. The 50th Space Wing, NASA's military predecessor, neglected to decommission these planes, using them instead to conduct  one of the greatest hoaxes in history. Their coat of arms is a terrifying skeletal, goat-hoofed demon taking wing across a desolate sky.

However, as Protestantism to Catholicism, NASA's Satanic ventures and direction have expanded beyond original Satanic dogmas held by the 50th Space Wing.  Now, as shown by NASA's new logo, which contains a chevron (one fifth of a complete pentagram) they are more focussed on being one of the Satanic Order of Five Space Agencies - NASA, POCKOCMOC, CNSA, IRNSS and JAXA, whose combined logos create a recursive pentagram, one chevron of which is itself a pentagram.  This is taken to symbolise the eternal and unending nature of their deception, and to glorify their deity, Satan.

So now, the 50th Space Wing is merely one of NASA's many denominational schisms. I do not know if NASA has invented the microwave, but I would not put it past them to falsely market a supposedly new product for exorbitant cost, which in reality is no more effective than a camping stove in a cardboard box.  The shoddy workmanship visible in most microwaves certainly does remind me of the mock-up space shuttle (a deception), whose outside was made out of pottery tiles and glue, and would routinely fall off at the slightest provocation (being moved, sitting still, riding on the back of a Boeing 747, deceiving public eyes).

Reported for being in the wrong section. This should be in RM. I have had some of my far more relevant threads moved, this ranted gibberish should be put in the basement, not the "strictly moderated" debate section.
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2011, 08:46:11 AM »
Your gross misunderstanding of Satanism shows your lies.

Satanism is about giving in to temptation, not resisting it. Why fight that which God himself has given you?

Also: what fuel do they use? I can't imagine several thousand ships constantly hovering and being refueled for the last 30 years. No repair, no crew exchange, and a massive fuel usage.

The Satanism of the Space Agencies is about making wealth from the most outlandish of deceptions. Microwaves were not given by God, they were made by evil, evil men (and perhaps women).

Most microwave ovens use a mains power supply, they do not use fuel. I'm fairly sure that a lot of retailers offer a repair service, and you yourself are the only crew the microwave needs.
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2011, 08:49:09 AM »
Reported for being in the wrong section. This should be in RM. I have had some of my far more relevant threads moved, this ranted gibberish should be put in the basement, not the "strictly moderated" debate section.

Thanks for your moderation report. I've reviewed the post in question and decided that at this time no action is needed, as the post directly addresses the topic of the thread with some new information. Keep up the good work though!
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2011, 08:54:28 AM »
Your gross misunderstanding of Satanism shows your lies.

Satanism is about giving in to temptation, not resisting it. Why fight that which God himself has given you?

Also: what fuel do they use? I can't imagine several thousand ships constantly hovering and being refueled for the last 30 years. No repair, no crew exchange, and a massive fuel usage.

The Satanism of the Space Agencies is about making wealth from the most outlandish of deceptions. Microwaves were not given by God, they were made by evil, evil men (and perhaps women).
Man had made the stove yet God had given him fire.  So too is the microwave oven.  God had given man Microwaves along the EM spectrum.  We had simply learned to create them ourselves.


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Most microwave ovens use a mains power supply, they do not use fuel. I'm fairly sure that a lot of retailers offer a repair service, and you yourself are the only crew the microwave needs.
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GPS "signals" are broadcast from a continuously fuel-replenishing fleet of high-altitude, ex-cold war fighters and bombers.
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2011, 08:57:54 AM »
Well half of them stay in the air while the other half refuel and get repaired. Sometimes they probably refuel in mid-air.
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2011, 09:06:40 AM »
Well half of them stay in the air while the other half refuel and get repaired. Sometimes they probably refuel in mid-air.
Then it should be easy to discover which air bases they are taking off from and landing at.  In fact, they should be taking off and landing at various airbases all over the world. 
Also, the fuel costs should be enormous, which will cause our fuel supply to run dry much faster than it would have otherwise.

I don't suppose you have a list of landing bases in the "Hudson Valley" in the state of New York do you?
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2011, 05:30:26 PM »
Precisely Inaccurate Clocks could be just what NASA needs to keep this whole supposed GPS sham afloat.

Why would they create such a sham, instead of just launching satellites?
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2011, 06:37:28 PM »
Precisely Inaccurate Clocks could be just what NASA needs to keep this whole supposed GPS sham afloat.

Why would they create such a sham, instead of just launching satellites?

Because satellites can't exist.

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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2011, 06:39:07 PM »
Precisely Inaccurate Clocks could be just what NASA needs to keep this whole supposed GPS sham afloat.

Why would they create such a sham, instead of just launching satellites?

Because satellites can't exist.

What is the reason for that?  It seems quite simple to put one on the tip of a rocket and launch it into orbit
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2011, 06:39:43 PM »
Precisely Inaccurate Clocks could be just what NASA needs to keep this whole supposed GPS sham afloat.

Why would they create such a sham, instead of just launching satellites?

Because satellites can't exist.

What is the reason for that?  It seems quite simple to put one on the tip of a rocket and launch it into orbit

It's not so simple when earth orbit does not exist.

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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2011, 06:42:40 PM »
Precisely Inaccurate Clocks could be just what NASA needs to keep this whole supposed GPS sham afloat.

Why would they create such a sham, instead of just launching satellites?

Because satellites can't exist.

What is the reason for that?  It seems quite simple to put one on the tip of a rocket and launch it into orbit

It's not so simple when earth orbit does not exist.

The earth may be flat, the earth may be round

Satellites may exist, or they may not.


Lets get back to science, and get out of this circular logic traffice cirlce.

The earth may be round or flat.  If satellites exist, then there must be gravity, and a spherical earth.
So, what evidence is there that satellites dont exist?
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2011, 06:51:45 PM »
so what exaclty happens when a rocket leaves the atmosphere?
does everything immediately disintegrate to to UA?
Does a similar thing happen if a plane flies off the edge?

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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2011, 06:55:57 PM »
so what exaclty happens when a rocket leaves the atmosphere?
does everything immediately disintegrate to to UA?
Does a similar thing happen if a plane flies off the edge?
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UA is only a theory, so is the edge.  I am looking for evidence that supports any of these theories.  I think the easily confirmable existence of satellites is damning evidence against UA, and a flat earth.

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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2011, 07:01:47 PM »
Precisely Inaccurate Clocks could be just what NASA needs to keep this whole supposed GPS sham afloat.

Why would they create such a sham, instead of just launching satellites?

Because satellites can't exist.

What is the reason for that?  It seems quite simple to put one on the tip of a rocket and launch it into orbit

It's not so simple when earth orbit does not exist.

The earth may be flat, the earth may be round

Satellites may exist, or they may not.


Lets get back to science, and get out of this circular logic traffice cirlce.

The earth may be round or flat.  If satellites exist, then there must be gravity, and a spherical earth.
So, what evidence is there that satellites dont exist?

Earth Not a Globe proves that the earth is flat. Therefore satellites do not exist.

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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2011, 07:06:34 PM »
Precisely Inaccurate Clocks could be just what NASA needs to keep this whole supposed GPS sham afloat.

Why would they create such a sham, instead of just launching satellites?

Because satellites can't exist.

What is the reason for that?  It seems quite simple to put one on the tip of a rocket and launch it into orbit

It's not so simple when earth orbit does not exist.

The earth may be flat, the earth may be round

Satellites may exist, or they may not.


Lets get back to science, and get out of this circular logic traffice cirlce.

The earth may be round or flat.  If satellites exist, then there must be gravity, and a spherical earth.
So, what evidence is there that satellites dont exist?

Earth Not a Globe proves that the earth is flat. Therefore satellites do not exist.

Earth not a globe provides theories that the earth is flat.   The existence of satellites contradict these theories.  So does the practice of surveying, which has the precise shape of the geodetic earth mapped out.

Feel free to quote any statement in Earth not a globe, and i will shoot it down.
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2011, 07:11:45 PM »
Earth not a globe provides theories that the earth is flat.   The existence of satellites contradict these theories.  So does the practice of surveying, which has the precise shape of the geodetic earth mapped out.

Feel free to quote any statement in Earth not a globe, and i will shoot it down.

EXPERIMENT 1.

A boat, with a flag-staff, the top of the flag 5 feet above the surface of the water, was directed to sail from a place called "Welche's Dam" (a well-known ferry passage), to another called "Welney Bridge." These two points are six statute miles apart. The author, with a good telescope, went into the water; and with the eye about 8 inches above the surface, observed the receding boat during the whole period required to sail to Welney Bridge. The flag and the boat were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance! There could be no mistake as to the distance passed over, as the man in charge of the boat had instructions to lift one of his oars to the top of the arch the moment he reached the bridge. The experiment commenced about three o'clock in the afternoon of a summer's day, and the sun was shining brightly and nearly behind or against the boat during the whole of its passage. Every necessary condition had been fulfilled, and the result was to the last degree definite and satisfactory. The conclusion was unavoidable that the surface of the water for a length of six miles did not to any appreciable extent decline or curvate downwards from the line of sight. But if the earth is a globe, the surface of the six miles length of water would have been 6 feet higher in the centre than at the two extremities, as shown in diagram fig. 2; but as the telescope was only 8 inches above the



FIG. 2.

water, the highest point of the surface would have been at one mile from the place of observation; and below this point the surface of the water at the end of the remaining five miles would have been 16 feet.

Let A B represent the arc of water 6 miles long, and A C the line of sight. The point of contact with the arc would be at T, a distance of one mile from the observer at A. From T to the bridge at B would be 5 miles, and the curvature from T to B would be 16 feet 8 inches. The top of the flag on the boat (which was 5 feet high) would have been 11 feet 8 inches below the horizon T, and altogether out of sight. Such a condition was not observed; but the following diagram, fig. 3, exhibits the true state of the case--A, B, the line of sight, equi-distant.


FIG. 3.

from or parallel with the surface of the water throughout the whole distance of 6 milts: From which it is concluded that the surface of standing water is not convex, but horizontal.

Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2011, 07:13:23 PM »
Precisely Inaccurate Clocks could be just what NASA needs to keep this whole supposed GPS sham afloat.

Why would they create such a sham, instead of just launching satellites?

Because satellites can't exist.

What is the reason for that?  It seems quite simple to put one on the tip of a rocket and launch it into orbit

It's not so simple when earth orbit does not exist.

The earth may be flat, the earth may be round

Satellites may exist, or they may not.


Lets get back to science, and get out of this circular logic traffice cirlce.

The earth may be round or flat.  If satellites exist, then there must be gravity, and a spherical earth.
So, what evidence is there that satellites dont exist?

Earth Not a Globe proves that the earth is flat. Therefore satellites do not exist.

Earth not a globe provides theories that the earth is flat.   The existence of satellites contradict these theories.  So does the practice of surveying, which has the precise shape of the geodetic earth mapped out.

Feel free to quote any statement in Earth not a globe, and i will shoot it down.

Clearly theses "surveyors" are NASA associates who are spreading misinformation, duh.  :-*
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2011, 07:17:28 PM »
That test was not an accurate survey.  First of all, the water and air temperatures were not recorded.  There was only a single forward measurement made with no checks.

If I was to conduct this experiment, I would use a large bay, where surveyors can all be stationed close to the water line.  Have a team of 12 surveyors, all 1 mile apart, inside a concave bay.  Over a distance of 12 miles, each surveyor would perform measurements to all other visible surveyors.  Each one would have a color coded staff mounted next to them, with different colors each 10cm.  You would be able to tell from a distance which colors are visible at each station, and also measure the vertical angle difference between each color. 

The predicted result is that each color would be the same apparant size, no matter how close to the surface they are.  There would be no compression, stretching or bending, there would merely be a point where the bottom colors arent visible.

Viewing the situation from multiple directions, with many seperate measurements per station, is an example of how surveyors work.

A single surveyor could perform this operation alone, but visualizing 12 of them helps people to understand how surveyors work.



There would be no crouching, ducking, or measuring close to a surface, all of which are poor practices
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2011, 07:19:29 PM »
Tom, you admitted yourself that sustained spaceflight was indeed possible, I don't understand why you have such a vendetta against satellites.
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2011, 07:26:02 PM »
It's not so simple when earth orbit does not exist.

Then what do you call the motions of the sun, moon and other celestial objects that exhibit regular, periodic travels across the sky?
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Re: GPS and Microwaves
« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2011, 07:28:16 PM »
Also, your first statement from ENaG was refuted as inconclusive and incorrect.  Anything else to refute satellites?
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« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2011, 07:29:27 PM »
That test was not an accurate survey.  First of all, the water and air temperatures were not recorded.  There was only a single forward measurement made with no checks.

If I was to conduct this experiment, I would use a large bay, where surveyors can all be stationed close to the water line.  Have a team of 12 surveyors, all 1 mile apart, inside a concave bay.  Over a distance of 12 miles, each surveyor would perform measurements to all other visible surveyors.  Each one would have a color coded staff mounted next to them, with different colors each 10cm.  You would be able to tell from a distance which colors are visible at each station, and also measure the vertical angle difference between each color. 

The predicted result is that each color would be the same apparant size, no matter how close to the surface they are.  There would be no compression, stretching or bending, there would merely be a point where the bottom colors arent visible.

Viewing the situation from multiple directions, with many seperate measurements per station, is an example of how surveyors work.

A single surveyor could perform this operation alone, but visualizing 12 of them helps people to understand how surveyors work.

There would be no crouching, ducking, or measuring close to a surface, all of which are poor practices
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