No holes but lots of leaks - another headache for the "standard model"

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Re: No holes but lots of leaks - another headache for the "standard model"
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2011, 09:18:54 AM »
Uh huh. So what shall be the appropriate response to any new developments in FET, apart from amusement?
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Re: No holes but lots of leaks - another headache for the "standard model"
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2011, 09:58:43 AM »
What are the chances Wilmore will pop his head back in and try and explain more?


Apologies, I've been away.


Anyway, what's there to explain? Globularists supposedly understood the "fundamental forces" of the universe, and have a bunch of hypothetical stuff they'd like to find. Instead, they've suddenly found out that there's a new "fundamental force" (which the old model supposedly didn't need to explain everything), and found a new particle that isn't one of the many hypothesised particles they'd like to find.


So if the standard model was so good and confidence inspiring, how did it miss this stuff?

From what I understand, scientists are still investigating the nature and potential impact of this new particle (if it really is a new particle), so I wouldn't read too much into this announcement one way or the other.

Wilmore, there is something that you have to understand about the nature of studying particle physics with atom smashers.  It's been said that it's roughly the equivalent of trying to learn about music the music of Beethoven by throwing a piano down a flight of stairs and listening to the sounds it makes as it bounces and smashes itself on the way down.
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Re: No holes but lots of leaks - another headache for the "standard model"
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2011, 01:32:27 PM »
Wilmore, there is something that you have to understand about the nature of studying particle physics with atom smashers.  It's been said that it's roughly the equivalent of trying to learn about music the music of Beethoven by throwing a piano down a flight of stairs and listening to the sounds it makes as it bounces and smashes itself on the way down.


And scientists have decided it's a good way to learn because...?
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Re: No holes but lots of leaks - another headache for the "standard model"
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2011, 01:33:01 PM »
Throwing pianos down stairwells certainly seems like the kind of endeavour worth several billion dollars of money to me. Small wonder they are closing facilities down.
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Re: No holes but lots of leaks - another headache for the "standard model"
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2011, 03:21:05 PM »
Wilmore, there is something that you have to understand about the nature of studying particle physics with atom smashers.  It's been said that it's roughly the equivalent of trying to learn about music the music of Beethoven by throwing a piano down a flight of stairs and listening to the sounds it makes as it bounces and smashes itself on the way down.

And scientists have decided it's a good way to learn because...?

Because they haven't found a better way yet.  :-\
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