Atheism and other issues

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on April 14, 2011, 01:58:09 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 01:36:10 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 09:09:06 AM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 03:35:22 AM

Like I said no point to explain to you anything. Keep listening to your science teacher 

"I am right because I'm right"

Its not just me. Billions of people all over the world believe in God and the existence of soul. There are a lot more of us, then you atheists. So all of us are wrong? We were wrong from the beginning of times? You think Darwin came along and proves us wrong? You got another thing coming Liberal. lol

Are you a young earth creationist?

Absolutely not. I agree with science that the earth is billions of years old. Actually I agree with Mayans who say that we are living in the fifth world. Meaning there was four previous worlds before us. Each one faced terrible demise  which wiped out an entire civilizations. I believe Ice age is one of those occurances. Before our known history began, there was Atlantis and Lemuria. That world ended roughly about 15,000 years ago.

Do you have any evidence to support these outlandish claims?

Plenty of evidence. I suggest doing extensive research on ancient Egypt and ancient Maya. When you are done with that, take a college course on Vedic philosophy. You will know all you need to know friend.

Plenty of evidence. I suggest doing extensive research on ancient Egypt and ancient Maya.

Stories of myths != factual evidence.

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 05:22:33 PM

Plenty of evidence. I suggest doing extensive research on ancient Egypt and ancient Maya.

Stories of myths != factual evidence.

The biggest myth is evolution, yet academia all over the western world accepts it! Please have a broader mind friend.

The biggest myth is evolution, yet academia all over the western world accepts it! Please have a broader mind friend.

You're a myth.

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 05:46:32 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 05:22:33 PM

Plenty of evidence. I suggest doing extensive research on ancient Egypt and ancient Maya.

Stories of myths != factual evidence.

The biggest myth is evolution, yet academia all over the western world accepts it! Please have a broader mind friend.

Come on man..

Are you seriously suggesting that the Mayan Creation story has more factual evidence supporting it than evolution does?

God is an evolutionist.

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 05:46:32 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 05:22:33 PM

Plenty of evidence. I suggest doing extensive research on ancient Egypt and ancient Maya.

Stories of myths != factual evidence.

The biggest myth is evolution, yet academia all over the western world accepts it! Please have a broader mind friend.

NE, I just realized that I'm slowly falling in love with you.

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 05:46:32 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 05:22:33 PM

Plenty of evidence. I suggest doing extensive research on ancient Egypt and ancient Maya.

Stories of myths != factual evidence.

The biggest myth is evolution, yet academia all over the western world accepts it! Please have a broader mind friend.

you need a broader mind too...
evolution has more evidence than the mayan creation story, or the egyptian creation story.
does myths have evidence from:
dna
fossils?
embryos?
Vestigial Structures?
homogenous structures?
microevolution (which for some reason is seperate from evolution in some creationist views)
ect?

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 06:00:11 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 05:46:32 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 05:22:33 PM

Plenty of evidence. I suggest doing extensive research on ancient Egypt and ancient Maya.

Stories of myths != factual evidence.

The biggest myth is evolution, yet academia all over the western world accepts it! Please have a broader mind friend.

Come on man..

Are you seriously suggesting that the Mayan Creation story has more factual evidence supporting it than evolution does?

Absolutely, the Mayan civilization existed for thousands of years. Mayans were great astronomers and mathamaticians. They acquired great esoteric knowledge, as well as spiritual knowledge. They knew the true history of the earth, not the lies presented by mainstream science. Do you think Darwin with his BS theory can disprove the ancient wisdom? Hell NO

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 06:00:11 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 05:46:32 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 05:22:33 PM

Plenty of evidence. I suggest doing extensive research on ancient Egypt and ancient Maya.

Stories of myths != factual evidence.

The biggest myth is evolution, yet academia all over the western world accepts it! Please have a broader mind friend.

NE, I just realized that I'm slowly falling in love with you.

If you are a beautiful girl, send me your pic and I will consider, if you are a guy, no thank you!

God is an evolutionist.

That's not what the bible says!

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 06:39:57 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 06:00:11 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 05:46:32 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 05:22:33 PM

Plenty of evidence. I suggest doing extensive research on ancient Egypt and ancient Maya.

Stories of myths != factual evidence.

The biggest myth is evolution, yet academia all over the western world accepts it! Please have a broader mind friend.

Come on man..

Are you seriously suggesting that the Mayan Creation story has more factual evidence supporting it than evolution does?

Absolutely, the Mayan civilization existed for thousands of years. Mayans were great astronomers and mathamaticians. They acquired great esoteric knowledge, as well as spiritual knowledge. They knew the true history of the earth, not the lies presented by mainstream science. Do you think Darwin with his BS theory can disprove the ancient wisdom? Hell NO

well, they thought they came from corn, so a sign of evolution, common anscestors anyone?

No they didn't think that. Its a false story made up by western historians.

No they didn't think that. Its a false story made up by western historians.

do you have evidence to support your outlandish claim?

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 08:58:31 PM

No they didn't think that. Its a false story made up by western historians.

do you have evidence to support your outlandish claim?

Do you have evidence that Mayans came from corn?

Quote from: vhu9644 on April 14, 2011, 08:59:21 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 08:58:31 PM

No they didn't think that. Its a false story made up by western historians.

do you have evidence to support your outlandish claim?

Do you have evidence that Mayans came from corn?

no, i have evidence that their creation myth, in which you trust:

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 06:39:57 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 06:00:11 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 05:46:32 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 05:22:33 PM

Plenty of evidence. I suggest doing extensive research on ancient Egypt and ancient Maya.

Stories of myths != factual evidence.

The biggest myth is evolution, yet academia all over the western world accepts it! Please have a broader mind friend.

Come on man..

Are you seriously suggesting that the Mayan Creation story has more factual evidence supporting it than evolution does?

Absolutely, the Mayan civilization existed for thousands of years. Mayans were great astronomers and mathamaticians. They acquired great esoteric knowledge, as well as spiritual knowledge. They knew the true history of the earth, not the lies presented by mainstream science. Do you think Darwin with his BS theory can disprove the ancient wisdom? Hell NO

states they came from corn.
http://www.mayadiscovery.com/ing/history/corn.htm

OK I didn't ask you what the article says, anyone can post an article, I said do you have evidence they came from corn?

"In fact, according to the Popol Vuh, the sacred book of the Maya, humankind itself was made of corn 葉he gods had tried other materials and failed."

*sigh* If only they had tried dust.

why ask if i have evidence they came from corn? that is not what i claimed

"In fact, according to the Popol Vuh, the sacred book of the Maya, humankind itself was made of corn 葉he gods had tried other materials and failed."

*sigh* If only they had tried dust.

This story is symbolic, much like biblical story of creation from dust is symbolic, simply designed to illustrate man's inferiority in comparison with God.

Quote from: Around And About on April 14, 2011, 09:26:56 PM

"In fact, according to the Popol Vuh, the sacred book of the Maya, humankind itself was made of corn 葉he gods had tried other materials and failed."

*sigh* If only they had tried dust.

This story is symbolic, much like biblical story of creation from dust is symbolic, simply designed to illustrate man's inferiority in comparison with God.

and how do you know the mayans thought of it as symbolic? not fact of their creation?

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 09:36:50 PM

Quote from: Around And About on April 14, 2011, 09:26:56 PM

"In fact, according to the Popol Vuh, the sacred book of the Maya, humankind itself was made of corn 葉he gods had tried other materials and failed."

*sigh* If only they had tried dust.

This story is symbolic, much like biblical story of creation from dust is symbolic, simply designed to illustrate man's inferiority in comparison with God.

and how do you know the mayans thought of it as symbolic? not fact of their creation?

Mayans were too advanced to take such allegory literally.

Quote from: vhu9644 on April 14, 2011, 09:37:34 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 09:36:50 PM

Quote from: Around And About on April 14, 2011, 09:26:56 PM

"In fact, according to the Popol Vuh, the sacred book of the Maya, humankind itself was made of corn 葉he gods had tried other materials and failed."

*sigh* If only they had tried dust.

This story is symbolic, much like biblical story of creation from dust is symbolic, simply designed to illustrate man's inferiority in comparison with God.

and how do you know the mayans thought of it as symbolic? not fact of their creation?

Mayans were too advanced to take such allegory literally.

and you know they were too advanced to believe them how?

and you told ust to trust their myths too, why should this one be excluded?

I didn't ask you to trust their myths. I ask you to look at evidence. The Egyptians called their kings pharaoh right? Did you know that the Native Americans of NY state also called their chiefs pharaoh. Same word used by Egyptians to label royalty. Still don't see the Atlantean connection?

I didn't ask you to trust their myths. I ask you to look at evidence. The Egyptians called their kings pharaoh right? Did you know that the Native Americans of NY state also called their chiefs pharaoh. Same word used by Egyptians to label royalty. Still don't see the Atlantean connection?

evidence? never heard of such

and pharaoh was originally used to describe the building

but anyways, just look at chinese and europeans
(both independentally came up with pascal's triangle, without sharing this)

i think the native americans did too, need to comfirm this
but even that proves nothing, why should coincidence be used as atlantean connection?

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 06:39:57 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 06:00:11 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 14, 2011, 05:46:32 PM

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 05:22:33 PM

Plenty of evidence. I suggest doing extensive research on ancient Egypt and ancient Maya.

Stories of myths != factual evidence.

The biggest myth is evolution, yet academia all over the western world accepts it! Please have a broader mind friend.

Come on man..

Are you seriously suggesting that the Mayan Creation story has more factual evidence supporting it than evolution does?

Absolutely, the Mayan civilization existed for thousands of years. Mayans were great astronomers and mathamaticians. They acquired great esoteric knowledge, as well as spiritual knowledge. They knew the true history of the earth, not the lies presented by mainstream science. Do you think Darwin with his BS theory can disprove the ancient wisdom? Hell NO

The Mayans also believed ripping one's heart out would please the rain gods.

Modern acadamia accepts evolution because it has evidence supporting it, because we have developed an efficient system called the scientific method. Saying that the earth blew up 5 times, ripping your heart out and eating will make it rain, and saying that a wizard poofed a world into existance are all ideas which have no real basis.

Scientists study, observe, and record and experiment something over and over again untill they can reach a valid conclusion. You do this every day, whether youre fixing a computer, working in a lab, or comparing health products. This is how science works. This is how modern society works.

Just because something was hypothesized several years ago doesnt make it true. We don't read pictographs and heiroglyphics to make medicine or study astronomy.

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 09:42:53 PM

I didn't ask you to trust their myths. I ask you to look at evidence. The Egyptians called their kings pharaoh right? Did you know that the Native Americans of NY state also called their chiefs pharaoh. Same word used by Egyptians to label royalty. Still don't see the Atlantean connection?

evidence? never heard of such

and pharaoh was originally used to describe the building

but anyways, just look at chinese and europeans
(both independentally came up with pascal's triangle, without sharing this)

i think the native americans did too, need to comfirm this
but even that proves nothing, why should coincidence be used as atlantean connection?

To label something as coincidence is to completely dismiss the facts. Two unrelated cultures separated by Atlantic Ocean can't have the same word for a "king" unless an additional culture was involved to influence them both.

To label something as coincidence is to completely dismiss the facts. Two unrelated cultures separated by Atlantic Ocean can't have the same word for a "king" unless an additional culture was involved to influence them both.

Or it was just insanely coincidental

ok, so two advanced civilizations (china and europe) discovered the same mathematical property independentally.  must be some culture in between them, that must have told them both...

Quote from: New Earth on April 14, 2011, 10:06:54 PM

To label something as coincidence is to completely dismiss the facts. Two unrelated cultures separated by Atlantic Ocean can't have the same word for a "king" unless an additional culture was involved to influence them both.

Or it was just insanely coincidental