Global-Er, Flat Earth Warming

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« on: September 16, 2006, 12:50:55 AM »
I recently saw An Inconvienient Truth, and all this global warming stuff has me scared. As the temperatures increase, will the ice wall melt? Will we lose the atmousphere and the oceans? I can't get these questions off my mind.

Any input is appriciated, thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2006, 02:17:09 AM »
If it hasn't happened in the last however many billion years, I think we can be safe in assuming it isn't going to happen now.

Most scientists seem to accept that the earth experiences warm and cold cycles. Sure maybe a few warm decades whittle a little bit away from the Ice wall, but then cold decades reinforce it.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over discal warming.

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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2006, 04:08:03 AM »
yeah the global warming we are experiencing and going to experience - while almost certainly man made - will not cause any temperatures which have not occured on Earth before.  The reason global warming is an issue is because it's happening so much faster than it would happen naturally and also because of the effects it will have on humanity - which is bad for us but probably good for the environment (humanity is bad for the environment - things that damage humanity are therefor good for the environment).

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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2006, 05:42:56 AM »
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As the temperatures increase, will the ice wall melt?



hee hee.... :lol:

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2006, 07:44:38 AM »
Quote from: "Unimportant"
If it hasn't happened in the last however many billion years, I think we can be safe in assuming it isn't going to happen now.

Most scientists seem to accept that the earth experiences warm and cold cycles. Sure maybe a few warm decades whittle a little bit away from the Ice wall, but then cold decades reinforce it.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over discal warming.


CO2 levels are well beyond anything in the record ice cores show, and those go back several hundred thousand years.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2006, 07:48:50 AM »
Scary thought, global warming.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2006, 08:58:56 AM »
Quote from: "dysfunction"
Quote from: "Unimportant"
If it hasn't happened in the last however many billion years, I think we can be safe in assuming it isn't going to happen now.

Most scientists seem to accept that the earth experiences warm and cold cycles. Sure maybe a few warm decades whittle a little bit away from the Ice wall, but then cold decades reinforce it.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over discal warming.


CO2 levels are well beyond anything in the record ice cores show, and those go back several hundred thousand years.


I'm not sure if this is true - one of the theorised causes of the permian-triassic extinction - which is the biggest extinction of our knowledge was extremely rapid global warming caused by a sudden increase of methane into the atmosphere.  Methane obviously isn't CO2 but it's a very strong greenhouse gas.

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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2006, 12:26:26 PM »
I've read that on average, methane in the atmosphere particles decay into something else (I forget what it was) over a period of about ten years. CO2 particles, on the other hand, are thought to last hundreds of years in the atmosphere. This is the reason why all the scientists are worried about CO2 more than methane when it comes to discal warming, even though methane is something like eight times more effective at trapping atmospheric heat.

A large amount of methane released into the atmosphere in the past would probably dissipate before it could melt the ice walls completely (about ten years), and therefore the earth survived. If there was enough CO2 in the atmosphere to raise the temperature enough so that the ice walls would melt, it would likely stay that hot for hundreds of years. The ice walls might not be able to survive something that extreme.
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2006, 12:30:56 PM »
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The ice walls might not be able to survive something that extreme.


Thats seriuosly really scary. Can we build some sort of water-catching device beyond the ice wall so that at least if the ice melts and the water falls away we can catch it before it disappears into space?

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2006, 12:32:18 PM »
Quote from: "MasterMolasses"
Quote from: "Hot Karl"
The ice walls might not be able to survive something that extreme.


Thats seriuosly really scary. Can we build some sort of water-catching device beyond the ice wall so that at least if the ice melts and the water falls away we can catch it before it disappears into space?

Why not just build up the wall?


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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2006, 12:35:59 PM »
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Why not just build up the wall?


Would the goverments of the world let us? Then they wouldn't be able to keep telling the public that the Earth is round.

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2006, 12:44:00 PM »
Who's to say the governments haven't already done it?
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2006, 12:48:13 PM »
But many govenments continue to deny the existance of global/discal warming. Why would they attempt to prevent something from happening when they claim that both the FE theory and discal warming are fake?

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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2006, 12:58:09 PM »
But why would they allow something to happen that could ultimately kill them all? That's just dumb.
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2006, 12:58:57 PM »
So the governments thought that it was easier to move millions of miles of cubic earth (or ice) to reinforce the ice wall than to just try and halt discal warming? Where is this material coming from and who is transporting it? Wouldn't the people of Tristan da Cunha and the Falklands (which are extremely close to the ice walls) notice and question the large amounts of traffic going by?

Reinforcing the ice walls would be a project of enormous proportions... It would require probably millions of people to be in on (and help propagate) the Conspiracy. And if there were millions of people in on the Conspiracy, surely it would be inevitable that the press would pick up on it.
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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2006, 01:01:10 PM »
We're all going to die.  :(

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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2006, 01:03:39 PM »
The point I'm trying to make is how could the government not do anything about this problem? They would be killed off like the rest us. I agree that trying to enforce the Wall or something won't go unnoticed, I was just using it as an example.
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2006, 01:10:30 PM »
They'd probably rather die in power than in chaos because they admitted that discal warming and FE theory are correct. They'll do anything to believe in the lies, and will take the easy way out rather than admit that they were wrong. Just like Hitler.

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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2006, 01:41:37 PM »
I agree... Imagine the worldwide panic that would occur should the general public find out that the earth is flat. Politicians are so corrupt it seems, that they would rather have everyone die than admit to being a part of the most heinous lie known to mankind.

Hopefully, however, that won't have to happen if we can figure out a way to halt or even reverse the damage that humans are doing to the planet. I think that if everyone knew that if there were no ice walls, there would be no earth, then everyone would be more motivated to stop discal warming. But instead, all we hear is ignorant rednecks saying something the effect of "Who needs ice anyway?"...

But until then, I say that we are certainly on a path to self-destruction.
 Natalie