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Lucretius

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« on: July 14, 2005, 09:47:11 AM »
You didn't answer this guy's questions in a previous thread, so do it now. As flat-earth beleivers, you must defend what you beleive.
Quote from: "Motoman"
you pepople are stupid. You say riots would break out. Remeber back in the old days (15 hundreds? I dunno.) EVERYONE THOUGH THE WORLD WAS ROUND. DId riots break out? NO! DID people kill each other no? Were they wrong that the earth is flat? YES! YES! YES!. If NASA wernt real how could you explain the recent space shuttle burning up in the atmoshpere? Also ( depending on where you live because the same side of the moon always faces the earth) how would you explian that with Powerfull telescopes YOU CAN SEE THE AMERICAN FLAG ON THE MOON!!!

Plus I asure you pearl harbor would not have occured becuase accodring to you they would have had to travel the enitire earth

And back then the feul efficiency of airplanes wasnt good you could probably get 1/4th of the way. Also, airlines have changed their routes because they have determined that flying above a sphere takes less time than traveling on the bulge of the sphere.

It takes a shorter time to travle with route 'B' than route 'A' because you are going a shorter distance over a ROUNDED part of the earth.

Also how could the government conceal such a secret? And then again it wouldnt only have to be the US government. It would have to be EVERY SINGLE GOVERENMENT EVER TO RISE TO POWER. And i assure you I dont think america could keep peace with iraq much less hold a gigantic secret with them. Along with other countries.

In addition explain this to me; If the earth were flat how is it possible that it  Night time on one continent and day time on the other? If earth were flat then light would be distorted evenly over the surface meaning the when it day in the US it would be day in India. But its not. The earth, BEING ROUND, spins on it axis, meaning that one spot on the earth receives light while the other has spun away from facing the sun and is bathed in night.

Well my rant is done. My closing is that you people are idiots. I would also love to see (and laugh) at all the F's you received on your school report  cards. (if you even went to school). Oh and i want to congradulate you on you new jobs as the worlds biggest assholes.

Good day,

Motoman.

Have at it guys....
HHHHHahahahahaha! eh hem...
-Luc

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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2005, 09:55:33 AM »
try spellcheck.
there are two theories on travel that I have come up with.  The 'pacman' theory and the 'infinite copy' theory.  both account for travel "around" the world.

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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2005, 10:09:31 AM »
Quote from: "reaperman93010"
try spellcheck.
there are two theories on travel that I have come up with.  The 'pacman' theory and the 'infinite copy' theory.  both account for travel "around" the world.


I don't know how your pacman theory would work (though I know what you are talking about) but for your infinite copy theory, that would mean the earth would be infinitely big, and we could not see half of the stars we do.  Also, what sounds more likely to happen?  An infinite copy earth, or a round one?

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2005, 10:19:58 AM »
your round earth assumes things about gravity that are unproven.  Newton's gravity is the law, einsteins is a weak theory.

If the world would be on infinite loop, it's not much more of a stretch to picture the stars and sky on the same loop.

Pacman theory works by suggesting that there is something that moves from one edge of the 'screen' to the other.  We're obviously able to see right through it, or we'd be wondering what it is.  I don't mean to presume what the something is, but many suggest it's of supernatural origin and above our level of understanding.

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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2005, 11:41:21 AM »
Quote from: "reaperman93010"
your round earth assumes things about gravity that are unproven.  Newton's gravity is the law, einsteins is a weak theory.

If the world would be on infinite loop, it's not much more of a stretch to picture the stars and sky on the same loop.

Pacman theory works by suggesting that there is something that moves from one edge of the 'screen' to the other.  We're obviously able to see right through it, or we'd be wondering what it is.  I don't mean to presume what the something is, but many suggest it's of supernatural origin and above our level of understanding.
Oh don't fuck with the stein.

YOu see Newton was a one shit wonder. What he managed to do was pull some theories out of his ass, and half of them were true. (side note: you realize his laws accept that the earth is a ball in space? Yeah, that was his Laws) But what he couldn't do was explain how gravity worked. His funamental flaw was that he believed (as I'm sure you do) that gravity is instantaneous.

This is where my main man, Albert comes in. You see he took a look at all of Newton's work. All of Newtons's math and said, "wait! This shit ain't right!" How can Gravity be instaneous if light ain't even instaneous!" In fact it takes 8 minutes for light to travel the 149,600,000 km from the sun to the earth. And since nothing can travel faster than light, well damn, we got ourselves a conundrum... unless gravity isn't instaneous. Hey, what if it travels AT the speed of light?

In fact my friends, that's what it does. Think of space as a two-dimensional bedsheet. Or even better, a trampoline. When you place an object on this trampoline, it puckers, or warps und it's massive size. Think of the sun as a bowling ball, and the earth as a golf ball (obviously sizes aren't acrurate, the earth should be slighlt smaller than a pinhead). If you roll the golf ball, on a perfect tangent to the sun, it will, in fact, roll along the sun's gravitational warping as well as the earth does. Unfortunately, the size of the area in which you can do that is much too small, friction is much too great, and who wants to spend that much time working on their putt?  :P

But in space, things are MUCH larger. It becomes much easier to put something in orbit, with a margin od spave millions of miles wide! WOOHOO!

Anyway. The original point was the speed of gravity. It is equal to the speed of light. 227,000 kilometres per second. Now, imagine if the sun just DISAPPEARED! AHHHHH! WE"RE ALL DOOMED! Well, acording to Newton, yes we are. we'd have no time to get off this world. Gravity would imeadeatly let go of us, and we'd fly off into space on a tangent of or final curve the instant the disaster took place. Be we know this just can't happen. Einstein already figured that one out. How could we be released from orbit before we saw the resulting light of the destruction?

So in we know understand that we have 8 minutes to get off the earth. Aw hell, we're still proper fucked. But it makes for a smashing end, don't it?

So we see that Newton was a fucking poser, and Einstein pwned him proper good!
HHHHHahahahahaha! eh hem...
-Luc

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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2005, 11:49:00 AM »
Whoa... Luc took it over the edge there... Never seen him cuss like that before...

Atta' Boy Luc!  You pwned them proper, 'cept Reaperman's gonna come and make up one theory after another, no matter how much he's joking.

Yes, he is joking everyone.

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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2005, 11:49:09 AM »
Even Newton had his kleenexbox-shoe moments when describing the shape of Earth.

Besides, it's all a rumor until somebody can tell me why in the world any two bodies of mass would attract eachother.  I understand the bedsheet visual, heard it many times before...but why?

I've only seen objects attracted to the great horizontal plane beneath my feet.  And government photos of life in space.

edit: so what happens if you travel faster than the speed of gravity?  can you escape these "black holes".  even light is effected by gravity in many 'round' models.  
...I imagine you really wouldn't have very long to think about it though...you couldn't survive very well at the speed of gravity.

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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2005, 11:50:01 AM »
No, he pmed me and told me he isn't. He was at first but now, damn the boy actually believes this...
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2005, 11:53:13 AM »
Man... are you serious?!  He's not joking?!  AUUGHHHH!!!

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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2006, 11:09:27 PM »
BUMP, I don't quite understand.

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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2006, 11:11:01 PM »