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« on: March 25, 2011, 08:55:01 PM »
I was just wondering why if NASA is trying to keep the secret of a flat earth from us, why are they being shut down? Also, it's not like NASA can be profiting from funding, they actually build rockets, (whether they go to space or not it does not matter), and employee people. You can't deny the fact that the rockets and equipment NASA uses are extremely costly, so I ask how do they profit if they have these costs and, even if all the video and photo are faked, do they not have to pay the people who produces them. The cost to produce a movie is large and to get the videos and photos that NASA has to simulate zero gravity for, would be a huge cost. So how are the conspirators profiting from NASA and why are they being shut down?

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 08:57:41 PM »
The space shuttle program ending is not the same as NASA being shut down.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2011, 01:31:52 AM »
Some people will tell you it's to profit. When you ask what their profiting off of, they'll pretty much tell you for the sake of profiting. How are they profiting? Because the Earth is really flat, but they say it's round. They must mark up the price of globes a lot.

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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2011, 05:00:18 AM »
well heres how things are working. i think we have established via my posts that there is indeed a conspiracy in control of our government. we see things like the bohemian grove and other strange things which point to this. bohemian grove and skull and bones are satanic pagan worshiping organizations. i believe that the conspiracy is more religiously motivated than money motivated. so they are fanatics and thats why they r so dangerous!

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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2011, 08:29:16 AM »
... are satanic pagan worshiping organizations...

Technically, satanic religions recognize the God of the Jewish/Christian/Muslim faith, and as such they would not be pagan strictly speaking, but rather heretical... I suppose it could fall under the definitions of hedonistic behavior, but that is a far less common definition of pagan which is typically reserved for polytheistic religions that are not related to the Jewish/Christian/Muslim faith.

To sum up:
A pagan does not believe in the God of the Jewish/Christian/Muslim faith, but does believe in some outside polytheistic religion (ie. Roman, Greek, Celtic, Norse, Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Aztec, etc.)
A heretic does believe in the God of the Jewish/Christian/Muslim faith, but keeps and maintains religious opinions contrary to those accepted by his or her church or rejects doctrines prescribed by that church
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2011, 10:57:12 AM »
they worship the satanic owl-god moloch. the pagan "gods" of satanism are more demons than anything else. these demon-gods are seen to serve the greatest demon of them all: satan. so they are all interwoven with each other. thats the sort of things that go down in bohemian grove.

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2011, 02:09:21 PM »
Technically, satanic religions recognize the God of the Jewish/Christian/Muslim faith

From Wikipedia:

"The Church of Satan does not worship or support a belief in the Devil or other supernatural entities."

I imagine there's other cults, but that one at least does not advocate the existence of any deity.
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2011, 03:41:23 PM »
they worship the satanic owl-god moloch. the pagan "gods" of satanism are more demons than anything else. these demon-gods are seen to serve the greatest demon of them all: satan. so they are all interwoven with each other. thats the sort of things that go down in bohemian grove.
You realize that pagan and satanists have nothing to do with each other right? I think we have established, through your posts, that you know nothing about anything.

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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2011, 03:55:01 PM »
they worship the satanic owl-god moloch. the pagan "gods" of satanism are more demons than anything else. these demon-gods are seen to serve the greatest demon of them all: satan. so they are all interwoven with each other. thats the sort of things that go down in bohemian grove.
You realize that pagan and satanists have nothing to do with each other right? I think we have established, through your posts, that you know nothing about anything.

The problem in this particular case is that, as an Ancient Semetic Mesopotamian religion, the deities often cross share quotes and warnings in the Bible and are often demonized because of their appearances in the bible.  Even the 17th Century English writer and poet, John Milton, listed Moloch among the chief of Satan's angels in his book "Paradise Lost".

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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2011, 07:35:13 PM »
the FAQ author has stated that rocket ships are made out of cardboard so I guess thats how they "save" tons of money.

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2011, 08:03:23 PM »
This wiki article states Wernher von Braun was a Nazi party member, and a commissioned SS officer. Then became the chief architect of the Saturn V rocket that propelled Apollo spacecraft to the moon. This is certainly suspicious to say the least. But I know many RE'rs will defend NASA anyway.





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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2011, 09:27:46 PM »
This wiki article states Wernher von Braun was a Nazi party member, and a commissioned SS officer. Then became the chief architect of the Saturn V rocket that propelled Apollo spacecraft to the moon. This is certainly suspicious to say the least. But I know many RE'rs will defend NASA anyway.

I don't understand what exactly is suspicious. Are you suggesting that because somebody was a member of the Nazi party that they wouldn't know how to be a rocket scientist?
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2011, 09:41:29 PM »
This wiki article states Wernher von Braun was a Nazi party member, and a commissioned SS officer. Then became the chief architect of the Saturn V rocket that propelled Apollo spacecraft to the moon. This is certainly suspicious to say the least. But I know many RE'rs will defend NASA anyway.

I don't understand what exactly is suspicious. Are you suggesting that because somebody was a member of the Nazi party that they wouldn't know how to be a rocket scientist?

Germany did have a lot of top notch scientists during WW II, just count yourself luck that Einstein was a Jew and fled to America to escape persecution... if the Germans ended up with nuclear weapons first, that war could have ended very differently.

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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2011, 09:53:01 PM »
Germany did have a lot of top notch scientists during WW II, just count yourself luck that Einstein was a Jew and fled to America to escape persecution... if the Germans ended up with nuclear weapons first, that war could have ended very differently.

I'm quite sure that Einstein's theories were well known throughout the world.  Einstein's contribution to the US atomic weapons program consisted of a letter to Roosevelt suggesting that Germany was probably already considering working on such a weapon and urging Roosevelt to do the same.

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2011, 09:59:35 PM »
Germany did have a lot of top notch scientists during WW II, just count yourself luck that Einstein was a Jew and fled to America to escape persecution... if the Germans ended up with nuclear weapons first, that war could have ended very differently.

I'm quite sure that Einstein's theories were well known throughout the world.  Einstein's contribution to the US atomic weapons program consisted of a letter to Roosevelt suggesting that Germany was probably already considering working on such a weapon and urging Roosevelt to do the same.

Yes, and thank goodness Einstein was on our side, and not theirs... but he still came from Germany too, however, I think that we are trying to assess, specifically, what the point was of this comment:

This wiki article states Wernher von Braun was a Nazi party member, and a commissioned SS officer. Then became the chief architect of the Saturn V rocket that propelled Apollo spacecraft to the moon. This is certainly suspicious to say the least. But I know many RE'rs will defend NASA anyway.

I don't understand what exactly is suspicious. Are you suggesting that because somebody was a member of the Nazi party that they wouldn't know how to be a rocket scientist?

Yeah... the Nazi's were bad mojo... but that did not make them inept as scientists and engineers.

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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2011, 10:01:14 PM »
Germany developed some amazing technology in World War II.

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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2011, 08:56:31 AM »
they worship the satanic owl-god moloch. the pagan "gods" of satanism are more demons than anything else. these demon-gods are seen to serve the greatest demon of them all: satan. so they are all interwoven with each other. thats the sort of things that go down in bohemian grove.
You realize that pagan and satanists have nothing to do with each other right? I think we have established, through your posts, that you know nothing about anything.

you know nothing and are ignorant!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113#


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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2011, 09:07:42 AM »
they worship the satanic owl-god moloch. the pagan "gods" of satanism are more demons than anything else. these demon-gods are seen to serve the greatest demon of them all: satan. so they are all interwoven with each other. thats the sort of things that go down in bohemian grove.
You realize that pagan and satanists have nothing to do with each other right? I think we have established, through your posts, that you know nothing about anything.

you know nothing and are ignorant!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113#


WATCH AND BE LIBERATED!


I'm not going to watch because I'm afraid my brain cells might die.

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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2011, 10:29:27 AM »
they worship the satanic owl-god moloch. the pagan "gods" of satanism are more demons than anything else. these demon-gods are seen to serve the greatest demon of them all: satan. so they are all interwoven with each other. thats the sort of things that go down in bohemian grove.
You realize that pagan and satanists have nothing to do with each other right? I think we have established, through your posts, that you know nothing about anything.

you know nothing and are ignorant!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113#


WATCH AND BE LIBERATED!


I'm not going to watch because I'm afraid my brain cells might die.

  Hey you silly guy, you have nothing to worry about. Your brain cells have been dead for quite a while.
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2011, 01:19:08 PM »
they worship the satanic owl-god moloch. the pagan "gods" of satanism are more demons than anything else. these demon-gods are seen to serve the greatest demon of them all: satan. so they are all interwoven with each other. thats the sort of things that go down in bohemian grove.
You realize that pagan and satanists have nothing to do with each other right? I think we have established, through your posts, that you know nothing about anything.

you know nothing and are ignorant!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113#


WATCH AND BE LIBERATED!


I'm not going to watch because I'm afraid my brain cells might die.

aha! so you DO fear the truth!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2011, 01:23:19 PM »
I was just wondering why if NASA is trying to keep the secret of a flat earth from us, why are they being shut down? Also, it's not like NASA can be profiting from funding, they actually build rockets, (whether they go to space or not it does not matter), and employee people. You can't deny the fact that the rockets and equipment NASA uses are extremely costly, so I ask how do they profit if they have these costs and, even if all the video and photo are faked, do they not have to pay the people who produces them. The cost to produce a movie is large and to get the videos and photos that NASA has to simulate zero gravity for, would be a huge cost. So how are the conspirators profiting from NASA and why are they being shut down?

NASA is being downsized due to the recession. While I'm sure they'd love more money to embezzle away into their personal bank accounts, they still have to convince Congress to pony up the cash every year.

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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2011, 01:29:52 PM »
NASA is being downsized due to the recession. While I'm sure they'd love more money to embezzle away into their personal bank accounts, they still have to convince Congress to pony up the cash every year.

In all seriousness, the money is probably better spent elsewhere at the moment, even though elsewhere includes the military. Also, the space shuttle program was ended because of various safety and design issues it faced, not because of funding.


you know nothing and are ignorant!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113#


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Here's the truth, directly from Wikipedia:

Quote from: Wikipedia
Paganism (from Latin paganus, meaning "country dweller", "rustic"[1]) is a blanket term, typically used to refer to polytheistic religious traditions.

Quote from: Wikipedia
Satanism is a group of religions that is composed of a diverse number of ideological and philosophical beliefs and social phenomena. Their shared feature include symbolic association with, admiration for the character of, and even veneration for Satan or similar rebellious, promethean, and liberating figures.

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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2011, 02:56:27 PM »
they worship the satanic owl-god moloch. the pagan "gods" of satanism are more demons than anything else. these demon-gods are seen to serve the greatest demon of them all: satan. so they are all interwoven with each other. thats the sort of things that go down in bohemian grove.
You realize that pagan and satanists have nothing to do with each other right? I think we have established, through your posts, that you know nothing about anything.

you know nothing and are ignorant!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113#


WATCH AND BE LIBERATED!


I'm not going to watch because I'm afraid my brain cells might die.

aha! so you DO fear the truth!!!!!!!!!
You're right, because the truth comes from a YouTube Google video posted by someone named "Gigamonsta" on TFES forums.

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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2011, 03:04:36 PM »
they worship the satanic owl-god moloch. the pagan "gods" of satanism are more demons than anything else. these demon-gods are seen to serve the greatest demon of them all: satan. so they are all interwoven with each other. thats the sort of things that go down in bohemian grove.
You realize that pagan and satanists have nothing to do with each other right? I think we have established, through your posts, that you know nothing about anything.

you know nothing and are ignorant!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113#


WATCH AND BE LIBERATED!


I'm not going to watch because I'm afraid my brain cells might die.

aha! so you DO fear the truth!!!!!!!!!
You're right, because the truth comes from a YouTube Google video posted by someone named "Gigamonsta" on TFES forums.
You should have warned me that it was an Alex Jones video so I could be busy not wasting my time.

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« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2011, 04:30:44 PM »
they worship the satanic owl-god moloch. the pagan "gods" of satanism are more demons than anything else. these demon-gods are seen to serve the greatest demon of them all: satan. so they are all interwoven with each other. thats the sort of things that go down in bohemian grove.
You realize that pagan and satanists have nothing to do with each other right? I think we have established, through your posts, that you know nothing about anything.

you know nothing and are ignorant!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113#


WATCH AND BE LIBERATED!


I'm not going to watch because I'm afraid my brain cells might die.

aha! so you DO fear the truth!!!!!!!!!
You're right, because the truth comes from a YouTube Google video posted by someone named "Gigamonsta" on TFES forums.
You should have warned me that it was an Alex Jones video so I could be busy not wasting my time.

alex jones is a profit! the fact you use ad hominen as argument shows your fear!

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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2011, 05:24:18 PM »
they worship the satanic owl-god moloch. the pagan "gods" of satanism are more demons than anything else. these demon-gods are seen to serve the greatest demon of them all: satan. so they are all interwoven with each other. thats the sort of things that go down in bohemian grove.
You realize that pagan and satanists have nothing to do with each other right? I think we have established, through your posts, that you know nothing about anything.

you know nothing and are ignorant!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113#


WATCH AND BE LIBERATED!


I'm not going to watch because I'm afraid my brain cells might die.

aha! so you DO fear the truth!!!!!!!!!
You're right, because the truth comes from a YouTube Google video posted by someone named "Gigamonsta" on TFES forums.
You should have warned me that it was an Alex Jones video so I could be busy not wasting my time.

alex jones is a profit! the fact you use ad hominen as argument shows your fear!
Ad hominem, you think you're better, than I am!
Ad hominem, you think you're better, than I am!

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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2011, 05:31:24 PM »
alex jones is a profit! the fact you use ad hominen as argument shows your fear!

Is this deliberate, a Freudian slip, or just plain bad spelling habits?

Profit - the monetary surplus left to a producer or employer after deducting wages, rent, cost of raw materials.

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Prophet - a person who speaks for god or a deity, or by divine inspiration.

...'cause I'm all for anything that lines my pockets with extra income, if it was deliberate....
« Last Edit: March 27, 2011, 05:32:59 PM by Oracle »

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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2011, 10:11:26 AM »
alex jones is a profit! the fact you use ad hominen as argument shows your fear!

Is this deliberate, a Freudian slip, or just plain bad spelling habits?

Profit - the monetary surplus left to a producer or employer after deducting wages, rent, cost of raw materials.

-or-

Prophet - a person who speaks for god or a deity, or by divine inspiration.

...'cause I'm all for anything that lines my pockets with extra income, if it was deliberate....

i meant PROPHET!!! how i spell doesnt matter. my message (THE TRUTH!!!) does.

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« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2011, 10:16:26 AM »
alex jones is a profit! the fact you use ad hominen as argument shows your fear!

Is this deliberate, a Freudian slip, or just plain bad spelling habits?

Profit - the monetary surplus left to a producer or employer after deducting wages, rent, cost of raw materials.

-or-

Prophet - a person who speaks for god or a deity, or by divine inspiration.

...'cause I'm all for anything that lines my pockets with extra income, if it was deliberate....

i meant PROPHET!!! how i spell doesnt matter. my message (THE TRUTH!!!) does.

Awww... and Oracle was hoping to line his pockets with extra cash too.....

Anyway, how you spell does matter, because it very clearly, in some cases and this one in particular, alters the meaning of the message you are trying to convey.