Space shuttle from plane

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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2011, 05:16:27 AM »
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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2011, 06:05:02 AM »
In the perfect place at the perfect time.  Interesting.

Not really all that interesting. By comparison, how many airplane flights do not observe this?
99.9999%?
Well there you have it, 0.0001% of airplanes see this happen. a non-zero number. A number that would explain why there is a video of it on youtube!
Obviously, I never said it didn't happen.  My number was speculation and I bet the margin is much smaller in real life.  Especially considering markjos well thought out posts.
I know your number was speculation, I don't care for the magnitude of the number, the only matter is that the probability of capturing such an event in a plane is non-zero. And you agree it happens, so why does your first post shout 'conspiracy'?
It doesn't.  I don't believe in a conspiracy.  All I said was that it was interesting.  Do you globularists ever tire of putting words in my mouth?
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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2011, 07:04:33 AM »
In the perfect place at the perfect time.  Interesting.

Not really all that interesting. By comparison, how many airplane flights do not observe this?
99.9999%?
Well there you have it, 0.0001% of airplanes see this happen. a non-zero number. A number that would explain why there is a video of it on youtube!
Obviously, I never said it didn't happen.  My number was speculation and I bet the margin is much smaller in real life.  Especially considering markjos well thought out posts.
I know your number was speculation, I don't care for the magnitude of the number, the only matter is that the probability of capturing such an event in a plane is non-zero. And you agree it happens, so why does your first post shout 'conspiracy'?
It doesn't.  I don't believe in a conspiracy.  All I said was that it was interesting.  Do you globularists ever tire of putting words in my mouth?

Yet you take every opportunity to ridicule NASA. Interesting.
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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2011, 07:11:35 AM »
You can see that it is curving back as the earth accelerates up to it. It probably never got above a few thousand feet before it fell back again. Nice try NASA.  >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2011, 08:21:20 AM »
In the perfect place at the perfect time.  Interesting.

Not really all that interesting. By comparison, how many airplane flights do not observe this?
99.9999%?
Well there you have it, 0.0001% of airplanes see this happen. a non-zero number. A number that would explain why there is a video of it on youtube!
Obviously, I never said it didn't happen.  My number was speculation and I bet the margin is much smaller in real life.  Especially considering markjos well thought out posts.
I know your number was speculation, I don't care for the magnitude of the number, the only matter is that the probability of capturing such an event in a plane is non-zero. And you agree it happens, so why does your first post shout 'conspiracy'?
It doesn't.  I don't believe in a conspiracy.  All I said was that it was interesting.  Do you globularists ever tire of putting words in my mouth?

Yet you take every opportunity to ridicule NASA. Interesting.
I wouldn't say every opportunity, but use hyperbole as you will.  Its no surprise I'm critical of NASA.  Hint: Its because they are incompetent.  You don't have to be a pin in a worldwide conspiracy to be ridiculed.
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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2011, 08:36:20 AM »
Its no surprise I'm critical of NASA.  Hint: Its because they are incompetent.  You don't have to be a pin in a worldwide conspiracy to be ridiculed.

Yes, NASA has some high profile failures (including one just the other day), but if you look at their overall record, I don't believe that "incompetent" is an appropriated word.  I think that it's easy to forget just how mind bogglingly complex even a "routine" space mission can be.
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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2011, 03:27:31 PM »
In the perfect place at the perfect time.  Interesting.

Not really all that interesting. By comparison, how many airplane flights do not observe this?
99.9999%?
Well there you have it, 0.0001% of airplanes see this happen. a non-zero number. A number that would explain why there is a video of it on youtube!
Obviously, I never said it didn't happen.  My number was speculation and I bet the margin is much smaller in real life.  Especially considering markjos well thought out posts.
I know your number was speculation, I don't care for the magnitude of the number, the only matter is that the probability of capturing such an event in a plane is non-zero. And you agree it happens, so why does your first post shout 'conspiracy'?
It doesn't.  I don't believe in a conspiracy.  All I said was that it was interesting.  Do you globularists ever tire of putting words in my mouth?
Really? Somehow you've managed to convince yourself that the Earth is flat and there isn't even a conspiracy? FET is hardly a theory anymore, it's a "choose whatever you want to believe, because we're all right and RET is wrong" mentality.
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2011, 03:45:39 PM »
Its no surprise I'm critical of NASA.  Hint: Its because they are incompetent.  You don't have to be a pin in a worldwide conspiracy to be ridiculed.

Yes, NASA has some high profile failures (including one just the other day), but if you look at their overall record, I don't believe that "incompetent" is an appropriated word.  I think that it's easy to forget just how mind bogglingly complex even a "routine" space mission can be.
Perhaps they are just funny mistakes when its a piece of wood thats supposed to be a rock or a NASA scientist having a breakdown and driving cross country in diapers.  

However when they can't keep track of a budget they are legally required to do and are spending American's money for their own ends, or even more gravely fail causing loss of life its time to be a bit more stern when considering their failings.  5% of those launched into space have died doing so overall (including foreign space launches.)  Knowing these risks to human life, their failures are due to incompetence and I think it is nice to be as forgiving as that.  Even Feynman noted their wanton disregard for human life and tax payer money through the use of dangerous launch schedules.  Both the Challenger and the Columbia both gave plenty of warning of failure and this was not to be noticed by NASA due to their own faults and lack of basic communication; if this was done properly or with even a bit of caution it would have saved the lives of those aboard.  

Its a shining example of RE science pushing to meet monetary and personal goals leading to catastrophic results.  

However, you are correct in your assessment that given their track record they are doing well for the massive guess and checks they have had to do in the past as well as the loss of great American men and women to do so.
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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2011, 03:53:35 PM »
5% of those launched into space have died doing so overall (including foreign space launches.)

This does not count the several deaths of cosmonauts which are yet to be publicly acknowledged.
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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2011, 07:09:44 AM »
5% of those launched into space have died doing so overall (including foreign space launches.)  Knowing these risks to human life, their failures are due to incompetence and I think it is nice to be as forgiving as that.

The figure is much higher. radiation kills astronauts instantly. Being an astronaut is actually a death sentence given out by the military police to the worst offenders such as those that killed and raped babies in Vietnam. They were put on the "space program" to further the lies of Americas Imperial doctrine of hate. Its a win win situation.

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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2011, 08:10:00 AM »
5% of those launched into space have died doing so overall (including foreign space launches.)  Knowing these risks to human life, their failures are due to incompetence and I think it is nice to be as forgiving as that.

The figure is much higher. radiation kills astronauts instantly. Being an astronaut is actually a death sentence given out by the military police to the worst offenders such as those that killed and raped babies in Vietnam. They were put on the "space program" to further the lies of Americas Imperial doctrine of hate. Its a win win situation.

Crusty, this nonsense is getting old.  Please knock it off.
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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2011, 09:21:10 AM »
If you do not believe in the RE conspiracy then that is your decision. However you are not able to impose your opinions on others. If you are seeking evidence of the conspiracy then I suggest you use the search function.

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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2011, 12:54:33 PM »

Crusty, this nonsense is getting old.  Please knock it off.

I enjoy his posts, but I probably haven't been around long enough to find it annoying :(

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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2011, 01:06:27 PM »
5% of those launched into space have died doing so overall (including foreign space launches.)  Knowing these risks to human life, their failures are due to incompetence and I think it is nice to be as forgiving as that.

The figure is much higher. radiation kills astronauts instantly. Being an astronaut is actually a death sentence given out by the military police to the worst offenders such as those that killed and raped babies in Vietnam. They were put on the "space program" to further the lies of Americas Imperial doctrine of hate. Its a win win situation.

Crusty, this nonsense is getting old.  Please knock it off.

When will you say the same thing to James & Ichi?
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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2011, 01:34:49 PM »
5% of those launched into space have died doing so overall (including foreign space launches.)  Knowing these risks to human life, their failures are due to incompetence and I think it is nice to be as forgiving as that.

The figure is much higher. radiation kills astronauts instantly. Being an astronaut is actually a death sentence given out by the military police to the worst offenders such as those that killed and raped babies in Vietnam. They were put on the "space program" to further the lies of Americas Imperial doctrine of hate. Its a win win situation.

Crusty, this nonsense is getting old.  Please knock it off.

When will you say the same thing to James & Ichi?

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« Last Edit: March 06, 2011, 01:38:32 PM by markjo »
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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2011, 10:51:58 PM »
Tomahawk Missile launch.  It's too bad the video stopped before the fuel ran out and the missile obtained a ballistic trajectory into the Atlantic Ocean.



I'm sorry, but was this video supposed to make a point?

Yes, it was meant to show the similarities between a tomahawk missile launch and an alleged shuttle launch.  As you can see, they look very much alike and a video of a launch from such a distance (the passenger seat of an airborne plane for instance) is indistinguishable from the other.  Thus, one cannot say that the object in the OP's video was indeed a shuttle bound for space.  It could have just as easily been any number of various types of objects; the most obvious being a missile.

I feel like you might get the impression that I'm patronizing you by have to so thoroughly explain a simple concept.  In the future, if you would like to avoid such embarrassment, please feel free to PM me and I shall explain the concepts over a private medium.


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Re: Space shuttle from plane
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2011, 06:55:05 AM »
[img ]http://i.imgur.com/bmePr.jpg[/img]

Please refrain from low content posting.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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