Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #60 on: March 06, 2011, 10:23:02 AM »
One possible way to get RET'ers off our backs is to go measure the circumference of "Antarctica". According to a flat earth map, the rock we live on looks like a circle with the north pole at the center and the "south pole" just beyond an ice wall around the circumference of the map. Accordingly, the inner circumference of the ice wall (what RET'ers call the outside of Antarctica) can be measured with the following:
s = r(theta), where s is the circumference, r is the flat earth radius, and theta is 2*pi. This is also known as C=2(pi)r.
Because the observable radius of the flat earth (from north pole to ice wall) is 20,037 km (trust me, I used a tape measure), this puts the inner circumference of the ice wall at 125,896 km.

No chicanery or subterfuge there; this is simple 2-D geometry.

If someone were to sail around "Antarctica", the resulting circumferential measurement would have to be 125,896 km. Clear as day.

This would directly contradict RET, which claims a measly 15,000 km circumference of the "continent" "Antarctica."

Once we successfully measure the perimeter of "Antarctica," we'll be as sure that the earth is flat as we are that an infinite number of tortoises support the earth.

he stated that the RET and FET perimeters of Antarctica do not match


that is what antarctica looks like
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2011, 06:33:38 PM »

The maths giving his speed at 25 knots was approximate, which you later refined to 22.6. I don't have a problem with this adjustment as 22.6 knots is still blindingly fast for a one man sailboat even in ideal conditions. I don't feel it invalidates my point - that maintaining such a high speed for so long a time under such difficult conditions would be practically impossible.
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #62 on: March 07, 2011, 11:36:23 PM »
and his responds to my post how?
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #63 on: March 19, 2011, 12:13:39 PM »
an easy way to prove that the earth is indeed round is to go to the top of the burj khalifa, from there you can physically observe the roundness of the earth
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #64 on: March 19, 2011, 01:02:35 PM »
an easy way to prove that the earth is indeed round is to go to the top of the burj khalifa, from there you can physically observe the roundness of the earth

Welcome!

I have seen those images too and what you are actually viewing are the results of a fisheye lens to photograph the view.   

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #65 on: March 19, 2011, 01:54:31 PM »
an easy way to prove that the earth is indeed round is to go to the top of the burj khalifa, from there you can physically observe the roundness of the earth

Welcome!

I have seen those images too and what you are actually viewing are the results of a fisheye lens to photograph the view.   

There is no stationary spot on the earth high enough to be able to distinguish the difference between a flat disc and a spherical surface by itself, you can't even make this determination from most commercial airliners as you are still too close to the surface, even at 30,000 feet.

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #66 on: March 20, 2011, 05:39:38 PM »

I have actually been to the top of the burj khalifa, not just witnessed photographs.  On a clear day, you could see the roundness of the earth from the observation deck.  All you have to do to show the roundness is to gather some thread and pull two sides tight so that it forms a straight line.  Move the straight line of thread up so it is parallel to the horizon.  If you look closely, you can see that the line of thread and earth are not parallel and that the earth curves away from the thread.  This shows that the earth is indeed a spherical object since you can physically observe the roundness of the earth.

Note:This can only be done while you are at an extremely high altitude compared to the surrounding landscape, preferably upwards of 600 meters.
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #67 on: March 21, 2011, 10:39:38 AM »

I have actually been to the top of the burj khalifa, not just witnessed photographs.  On a clear day, you could see the roundness of the earth from the observation deck.  All you have to do to show the roundness is to gather some thread and pull two sides tight so that it forms a straight line.  Move the straight line of thread up so it is parallel to the horizon.  If you look closely, you can see that the line of thread and earth are not parallel and that the earth curves away from the thread.  This shows that the earth is indeed a spherical object since you can physically observe the roundness of the earth.

Note:This can only be done while you are at an extremely high altitude compared to the surrounding landscape, preferably upwards of 600 meters.

Not having been to burj khalifa, I'll have to take your word for it... but just to play devil's advocate here, if you were sufficiently high above a disk, it would also appear to curve away at the edges in this same manner.

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2011, 08:12:47 AM »

I have actually been to the top of the burj khalifa, not just witnessed photographs.  On a clear day, you could see the roundness of the earth from the observation deck.  All you have to do to show the roundness is to gather some thread and pull two sides tight so that it forms a straight line.  Move the straight line of thread up so it is parallel to the horizon.  If you look closely, you can see that the line of thread and earth are not parallel and that the earth curves away from the thread.  This shows that the earth is indeed a spherical object since you can physically observe the roundness of the earth.

Note:This can only be done while you are at an extremely high altitude compared to the surrounding landscape, preferably upwards of 600 meters.

Not having been to burj khalifa, I'll have to take your word for it... but just to play devil's advocate here, if you were sufficiently high above a disk, it would also appear to curve away at the edges in this same manner.

No it wouldn't unless you were looking over the edge


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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2011, 06:56:29 PM »

I have actually been to the top of the burj khalifa, not just witnessed photographs.  On a clear day, you could see the roundness of the earth from the observation deck.  All you have to do to show the roundness is to gather some thread and pull two sides tight so that it forms a straight line.  Move the straight line of thread up so it is parallel to the horizon.  If you look closely, you can see that the line of thread and earth are not parallel and that the earth curves away from the thread.  This shows that the earth is indeed a spherical object since you can physically observe the roundness of the earth.

Note:This can only be done while you are at an extremely high altitude compared to the surrounding landscape, preferably upwards of 600 meters.

Not having been to burj khalifa, I'll have to take your word for it... but just to play devil's advocate here, if you were sufficiently high above a disk, it would also appear to curve away at the edges in this same manner.

No it wouldn't unless you were looking over the edge

If you were high enough, you would be looking over it's edge.  Have you ever been on a large circular trampoline or any other large disc?

You can easily tell you are on a disc with only a moderate height as you can see the edges curving downward and away from you at the edges.

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #70 on: March 28, 2011, 10:46:43 AM »
Contrary to what silver claims, I am not a proponent of a "bendy space" theory. That's what Thevoiceofreason thinks I believe, and what some noobs assumed as the absolute truth. I am also not a troll, and my model is perfectly consistent with all RE "requirements". Silver also thinks the Earth has been proven to be round, but unfortunately cannot point out a single argument/experiment that gives such conclusive proof when asked. I suggest you disregard silver's wild claims, as they are simple slander with no shred of support. Unfortunately, some noobs are angry noobs.

However, there is one thing silver was right about: the part of your argument I disagree with is the use of Euclidean geometry. That essentially is assuming that the Earth is round.

Do you have any pictures of the wall that you guys talk about? i really would LOVE to see that... My father is an astronaut and i have plenty of pictures and let me tell you the earth is round not flat, ROUND!!, I've been to Argentina several times and been on an Antartica Cruise and really i've never seen that wall lol.

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2011, 10:59:21 AM »
Contrary to what silver claims, I am not a proponent of a "bendy space" theory. That's what Thevoiceofreason thinks I believe, and what some noobs assumed as the absolute truth. I am also not a troll, and my model is perfectly consistent with all RE "requirements". Silver also thinks the Earth has been proven to be round, but unfortunately cannot point out a single argument/experiment that gives such conclusive proof when asked. I suggest you disregard silver's wild claims, as they are simple slander with no shred of support. Unfortunately, some noobs are angry noobs.

However, there is one thing silver was right about: the part of your argument I disagree with is the use of Euclidean geometry. That essentially is assuming that the Earth is round.

Do you have any pictures of the wall that you guys talk about? i really would LOVE to see that... My father is an astronaut and i have plenty of pictures and let me tell you the earth is round not flat, ROUND!!, I've been to Argentina several times and been on an Antartica Cruise and really i've never seen that wall lol.

Oh cool my uncle is also an astronaut, did we meet at last years christmas party? Are you you Johnson or Marten?
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2011, 11:33:52 AM »
I get to attend the Cosmonaut beach party myself, accompanying my aunt.

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2011, 01:05:08 PM »
Contrary to what silver claims, I am not a proponent of a "bendy space" theory. That's what Thevoiceofreason thinks I believe, and what some noobs assumed as the absolute truth. I am also not a troll, and my model is perfectly consistent with all RE "requirements". Silver also thinks the Earth has been proven to be round, but unfortunately cannot point out a single argument/experiment that gives such conclusive proof when asked. I suggest you disregard silver's wild claims, as they are simple slander with no shred of support. Unfortunately, some noobs are angry noobs.

However, there is one thing silver was right about: the part of your argument I disagree with is the use of Euclidean geometry. That essentially is assuming that the Earth is round.

Do you have any pictures of the wall that you guys talk about? i really would LOVE to see that... My father is an astronaut and i have plenty of pictures and let me tell you the earth is round not flat, ROUND!!, I've been to Argentina several times and been on an Antartica Cruise and really i've never seen that wall lol.

Oh cool my uncle is also an astronaut, did we meet at last years christmas party? Are you you Johnson or Marten?
oh cool.... So do you also believe that the Earth is Flat lol....... I cant believe that still ppl belive this. I would love to see pictures of that wall they talk about and pictures of a Flat earth lol


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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2011, 01:09:45 PM »
Contrary to what silver claims, I am not a proponent of a "bendy space" theory. That's what Thevoiceofreason thinks I believe, and what some noobs assumed as the absolute truth. I am also not a troll, and my model is perfectly consistent with all RE "requirements". Silver also thinks the Earth has been proven to be round, but unfortunately cannot point out a single argument/experiment that gives such conclusive proof when asked. I suggest you disregard silver's wild claims, as they are simple slander with no shred of support. Unfortunately, some noobs are angry noobs.

However, there is one thing silver was right about: the part of your argument I disagree with is the use of Euclidean geometry. That essentially is assuming that the Earth is round.

Do you have any pictures of the wall that you guys talk about? i really would LOVE to see that... My father is an astronaut and i have plenty of pictures and let me tell you the earth is round not flat, ROUND!!, I've been to Argentina several times and been on an Antartica Cruise and really i've never seen that wall lol.

Oh cool my uncle is also an astronaut, did we meet at last years christmas party? Are you you Johnson or Marten?
oh cool.... So do you also believe that the Earth is Flat lol....... I cant believe that still ppl belive this. I would love to see pictures of that wall they talk about and pictures of a Flat earth lol


but I mean real pictures not animated lol because i can also draw a picture of an square or diamond shape world and say that thats how its shaped..

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2011, 01:48:23 PM »

looks pretty flat
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« Reply #76 on: March 31, 2011, 08:50:53 AM »
Apparently global is incapable of detecting satires.
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #77 on: April 15, 2011, 05:53:35 PM »
In FE model there is no south pole. There is only north pole. Pole is actually a round earth term. FE uses the word center. The center of the earth is (north pole) there is no south center.
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #78 on: May 04, 2011, 08:15:50 AM »
I have actually been to the top of the burj khalifa, not just witnessed photographs.  On a clear day, you could see the roundness of the earth from the observation deck

HA!  Nice try, but no banana.  How about going to the top of a volcano in the middle of the Pacific Ocean at 10,000-14,000 feet? (~3000, 4000 meters).   The ocean looks flat as a pancake, no curve whatsoever. Ditto in an airplane at 35,000 feet or more above the ocean. Going up 450 meters to the "At the Top" deck does not tell you much about the shape of the earth.
BTW, have you really been to the top of the building, or just the observation deck?

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #79 on: May 05, 2011, 05:43:49 AM »

looks pretty flat



Looks pretty round.

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #80 on: May 08, 2011, 11:58:13 PM »

looks pretty flat

cgi from a film is your best evidence? and yes, the earth is flat to our close observation, simply because it is so massive, that we can flatten miles upon miles of the surface, and it still be a globe. a globe on a planetary scale is not perfectly round, perhaps this is the fatal flaw in the FET argument

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2011, 02:59:20 AM »
a globe on a planetary scale is not perfectly round, perhaps this is the fatal flaw in the FET argument

Although, if you shrunk RET's earth down to the size of a billiard ball, it would probably be indistinguishable from one, in terms of shape and smoothness. From what I'm told, anyway.
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2011, 03:17:59 AM »
I don't quite follow, but to continue your logic, if a person was scaled down equivalently, they would find just as many flat expanses on the surface of the scaled down earth as they would do in 1:1 scale, given the incredibly huge difference in size between us and the earth, no?

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #83 on: May 11, 2011, 10:58:03 PM »
I don't quite follow, but to continue your logic, if a person was scaled down equivalently, they would find just as many flat expanses on the surface of the scaled down earth as they would do in 1:1 scale, given the incredibly huge difference in size between us and the earth, no?
he is just stating that he has heard the earth itself, if scaled to a billard ball, would be just as smooth, due to the hieght of all the topographical features
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #84 on: August 19, 2011, 02:42:51 PM »
Of course the earth has been proved Round!!! We went into freaking space we landed on the stupid MOON. One of these days i'd like to stick all u FET into a rocket ship and launch ya'll into space, just to say i told ya so. >:(
I thought this was a joke when i first looked up. But now i see how serious ya'll are and that just makes it even more hilarious and a little frustrating that you think your sooo right when you are SOOOOO wrong. I suppose since you think the world is flat you also think you'll fall off huh. You also must think all the moon landings are fake. Caus there are plenty pictures from the moon of a ROUND earth!!!.

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #85 on: August 19, 2011, 02:51:22 PM »
Of course the earth has been proved Round!!!
Incorrect.

We went into freaking space we landed on the stupid MOON.
Incorrect.

I suppose since you think the world is flat you also think you'll fall off huh.
One would have to cross the ice wall; and that is assuming the Earth is finite.

Caus there are plenty pictures from the moon of a ROUND earth!!!.
There are pictures aplenty of Naboo as well. Therefore, Naboo exists.
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #86 on: August 19, 2011, 02:52:41 PM »
I suppose since you think the world is flat you also think you'll fall off huh.
One would have to cross the ice wall; and that is assuming the Earth is finite.

Even then, you would float, anyway.
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #87 on: August 19, 2011, 02:53:39 PM »
Of course the earth has been proved Round!!! We went into freaking space we landed on the stupid MOON. One of these days i'd like to stick all u FET into a rocket ship and launch ya'll into space, just to say i told ya so. >:(
I thought this was a joke when i first looked up. But now i see how serious ya'll are and that just makes it even more hilarious and a little frustrating that you think your sooo right when you are SOOOOO wrong. I suppose since you think the world is flat you also think you'll fall off huh. You also must think all the moon landings are fake.

What's this 'we' business? You didn't go into space. I didn't go into space. Your are just taking NASA's word for it because they shopped a bunch of pretty pictures for you to stare at with your mouth wide open.

Yes, I do think the moon landings are fake. Just like the moon rock they 'brought back'.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8226075.stm
http://www.physorg.com/news171006198.html

Caus there are plenty pictures from the moon of a ROUND earth!!!.
There are plenty of pictures of the death star too. Does that mean its real?


And no, a huge ice-wall around earth's perimeter prevents people from 'falling off'.

EDIT: Damn you and your speedy responses PizzaPlanet. :P
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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #88 on: August 19, 2011, 03:20:43 PM »
Wow pizzaplanet i thought u were smater then that. I thought u could tell the difference between photo shop and real but i guess not. Of course Naboo is fake it's a game of movie or somethin If the earth is indeed flat why are there no pictures??? Oh... that's right you don't believe we've been to space! Why are you so intent on discrediting one of the human race's biggest accomplishments? Do you WANT to remain in the unknown forever?? comeon catch up to the 21st century.

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Re: Easy way to prove the earth is indeed flat
« Reply #89 on: August 19, 2011, 03:38:13 PM »
Ad hominem. Ad hominem. Naboo is fake because people said so. Ad populum.

It would help if you actually put forward an argument.
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