Doesn't Communism sound like fun?

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2011, 08:27:04 PM »
ITT: People twists definitions to troll others.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2011, 08:29:14 PM »
ITT: People twists definitions to troll others.

Yep, Wardogg is a pro troll.

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Wakka Wakka

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2011, 08:34:27 PM »
ITT: People twists definitions to troll others.
Do you know the definition of Communism?  I'll give you a hint, its not what Wardogg thinks it is.
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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2011, 08:42:20 PM »
And neither does a proper communist state, nor has one ever existed.


That is very true. China calls itself People's Republic, but the truth is, China is ran by the globalist elites and people are working for peanuts. Nothing in China belongs to the people.
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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2011, 08:47:53 PM »
ITT: People twists definitions to troll others.
Do you know the definition of Communism?  I'll give you a hint, its not what Wardogg thinks it is.

A political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

No?

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2011, 08:48:50 PM »
Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate

And neither does a proper communist state, nor has one ever existed.


That is very true. China calls itself People's Republic, but the truth is, China is ran by the globalist elites and people are working for peanuts. Nothing in China belongs to the people.
i find that could be very insultive to chinese people.  what about hu jintao? he is part of the people in china, but he still has belonging
and china, you can own stuff, its not a communism.

nowadays, communism is misused as socialism
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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2011, 08:49:53 PM »
ITT: People twists definitions to troll others.
Do you know the definition of Communism?  I'll give you a hint, its not what Wardogg thinks it is.

Do you know what suppression is?

And BTW, the single party that controls the single-party state known as the People's Republic of China is the Communist Party of China which make China a de facto communist state, thanks for playing.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2011, 10:16:30 PM »
Do you know what suppression is?

And BTW, the single party that controls the single-party state known as the People's Republic of China is the Communist Party of China which make China a de facto communist state, thanks for playing.

Suppression has nothing to do with Communism.

I know this is a practice in futility, but I'm going to post the definition again. Hopefully you actually try to read it and comprehend it this time. I'll break it down so it's painfully obvious.

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Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate.

So China scores:

1. Classless and stateless - Nope
2. Common ownership - Nope
3. Free access to articles of consumption - LOL nope
4. The end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate - Not even remotely close

China should only be linked with Communism when we talk about their ruling party's name. That's it. It has nothing else in common with the definition at all.

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2011, 12:43:44 AM »
I'd like to see you source for this definition of communism you keep whipping out as it conveniences you. $10 says it's http://howtodenycommunism.com

Suppression has nothing to do with Communism.

Maybe when you start reading with your eyes instead of your ass you'll noticed I never compared the two.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2011, 12:49:30 AM »
Fun fact, the capitalists are in major debt with the "communists".
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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2011, 01:21:06 AM »
I don't think it's quite right to say that communism has never been achieved, surely the communes of Germany, France and the USA are pretty good examples of people living in a classless, leaderless society with shared ownership?

The problem, as with all forms of government is what happens when too many people get involved. Life on a commune depends on members of the group adhering to one broadly consensual direction, you just don't get that in a nation of 1.3bn people (or 300million in the case of the USSR) without extreme, draconian leadership debasing everything the idea of communism stands for.

The only way the Soviet Union could have worked and remained communist is if instead of being made up of 15 republics it was made up of several hundred thousand communes, with the central government acting only as a night-watchman government concerned with communal defence.

The co-operative movement shows that successful, profitable urban 'communes' can work.

Unfortunately, this idealistic state is impossible because there will always be people unwilling to stop taking advantage/controlling others.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2011, 01:57:54 AM »
I'd like to see you source for this definition of communism you keep whipping out as it conveniences you. $10 says it's http://howtodenycommunism.com

I'll link multiple definitions then. You should know that I disagree with what China does in a lot of areas, I'm not defending it. I'm defending the communist ideology.

Original definition was wikipedia.
Quote from: Dictionary.com
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
Quote from: thefreedictionary.com
A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
Quote from: BusinessDictionary.com
Economic and social system in which all (or nearly all) property and resources are collectively owned by a classless society and not by individual citizens.

I think it's pretty obvious now. Every one of those definitions is in (near) complete agreement.

Suppression has nothing to do with Communism.

Maybe when you start reading with your eyes instead of your ass you'll noticed I never compared the two.

Seriously? You have the gall to insult me when you clearly tried to link Communism and suppression?

there will always be people unwilling to stop taking advantage/controlling others.

It's for that reason, and others, that real communism is an extremely hard thing to implement.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2011, 02:20:19 AM »
Wardogg, Communism is not a synonym for "bad".

Untrue.

In fact, the only reason why proper communism has never been established is because it's such a fucking bad idea to begin with.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2011, 02:51:54 AM »
Untrue.

In fact, the only reason why proper communism has never been established is because it's such a fucking bad idea to begin with.

Elaborate.

Also, if you're trolling, this thread already has enough.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2011, 05:35:21 AM »
I'd like to see you source for this definition of communism you keep whipping out as it conveniences you. $10 says it's http://howtodenycommunism.com

Suppression has nothing to do with Communism.

Maybe when you start reading with your eyes instead of your ass you'll noticed I never compared the two.
Do you ever get whiplash due to how wrong you are?  Suppression has nothing to do with Communism.  There is, of course, suppression in China but since China is about as communist as Nazi Germany was, it is an irrelevant point.
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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2011, 11:12:58 AM »
http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/14/china-bans-time-travel-for-television/?hpt=C2

The reasons they banned time travel fiction is much more interesting than this silly communism shit.  I read something the other day (can't find it now) that said the Chinese government didn't want the people longing for "simpler times".  I thought of you and your Montana fantasy when I read it.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2011, 11:29:49 AM »
http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/14/china-bans-time-travel-for-television/?hpt=C2

The reasons they banned time travel fiction is much more interesting than this silly communism shit.  I read something the other day (can't find it now) that said the Chinese government didn't want the people longing for "simpler times".  I thought of you and your Montana fantasy when I read it.

Ahhhhh yes, Montana.   I want to be a popcorn farmer.

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2011, 03:39:41 PM »

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2011, 03:50:15 PM »
Is that supposed to be a burn?  If you weren't a home school dropout, you'd probably be much better at it.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2011, 04:10:09 PM »
And maybe if you had an actual argument you wouldn't be stooping to attacking someone personally.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2011, 04:13:13 PM »
I wasn't arguing.  Your reading comprehension skills are terrible.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2011, 04:25:05 PM »
Whatever.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2011, 04:39:15 PM »


Quote from: The motherfucking Oxford English Dictionary
communism • ˈkämyəˌnizəm
(n): a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. See also MARXISM.

The most familiar form of communism is that established by the Bolsheviks after the Russian Revolution of 1917, and it has generally been understood in terms of the system practiced by the former USSR and its allies in eastern Europe, in China since 1949, and in some developing countries such as Cuba, Vietnam, and North Korea. Communism embraced a revolutionary ideology in which the state would wither away after the overthrow of the capitalist system. In practice, however, the state grew to control all aspects of communist society. Communism in eastern Europe collapsed in the late 1980s and early 1990s against a background of failure to meet people's economic expectations, a shift to more democracy in political life, and increasing nationalism such as that which led to the breakup of the USSR.

I mean seriously, guys, it's embarrassing when you can pick up a dictionary of all things and get a perfect definition of what you're arguing about. It even says there that the late USSR and China are not true communist states. I mean come the fuck on.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2011, 06:41:53 PM »
http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/14/china-bans-time-travel-for-television/?hpt=C2

Yeah, but I guess you missed the point. They're banning time travel as a subject matter in films because it opens up the possibility for hope/desire that the current state of affairs (i.e. Communist controlled government) can be changed. Or that it should be desirable to change it.

So rather than going hur hur they banned Back To The Future, you should be saying hur hur they're oppressing the hopes and desires of their people.

Hur hur.

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Re: Doesn't Communism sound like fun?
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2011, 09:12:09 PM »
How conveeeenient!



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