DMT: Are we already dead?

Quote from: Supertails on February 16, 2011, 11:30:31 PM

Yeah...I doubt that.

If we are correct about DMT, it is true,

Quote from: Supertails on February 16, 2011, 11:30:31 PM

Yeah...I doubt that.

You have no proof against, other than the fact that the electrons in your brain can only move but so fast. It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time

Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on February 17, 2011, 03:58:48 AM

Quote from: Supertails on February 16, 2011, 11:30:31 PM

Yeah...I doubt that.

You have no proof against, other than the fact that the electrons in your brain can only move but so fast. It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time

First I'm going to get out the necessary "you also can't prove there aren't magical fairies in your garden" point.  Burden of proof, guise.  And then again, there is no reason to believe that there is a ridiculous neverending loop of flashbacks.  This isn't Inception or something.

Though while you're at it I suppose you can add "also at the end of your life you can go into people's dreams and pull a brain heist!" and it won't be any less logical, so...

Quote from: Hazbollah on February 16, 2011, 12:19:57 PM

Quote from: Tausami on February 15, 2011, 01:17:57 PM

Placebo affect. When you reach the end of your life in the flashback, you have a flashback. Mathematically speaking, it's possible. Think of it like inception. The further down you go, the slower life gets.

Ah, so a flashback within a flashback within a flashback? Not really a placebo effect though.

It is true. When you are about to die, you have a flashback. When you get to the end of that flashback, what is the last thing that occurs in your memory? A flashback. Happens over and over.

Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on February 17, 2011, 03:58:48 AM

Quote from: Supertails on February 16, 2011, 11:30:31 PM

Yeah...I doubt that.

You have no proof against, other than the fact that the electrons in your brain can only move but so fast. It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time

First I'm going to get out the necessary "you also can't prove there aren't magical fairies in your garden" point.  Burden of proof, guise.  And then again, there is no reason to believe that there is a ridiculous neverending loop of flashbacks.  This isn't Inception or something.

Though while you're at it I suppose you can add "also at the end of your life you can go into people's dreams and pull a brain heist!" and it won't be any less logical, so...

The difference this isn't just some crazy theory that someone made up when they were sitting around. It is based off the fact that some scientists believe that the chemical DMT created by the brain is the reason why some people report to have flashbacks when they are about to die.

To assert that there is a loop of flashbacks is the next logical step. Lets say you are dying, the DMT kicks in, and you have a flashback and you walk through your life all over again. Then when it comes to that point when you are about to die, what is the last thing you experience? A flashback. So you experience that too.

At what point did I say I believed it. If you read the whole post, you'd see I said "It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time"
which disproves the DMT idea, as a drug cannot speed up electrons. This only disproves his proof, not the theory. It is impossible to prove this doesn't happen, much like noone can prove that the soul doesn't exist in the religious sence

Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on February 18, 2011, 04:09:14 AM

At what point did I say I believed it. If you read the whole post, you'd see I said "It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time"
which disproves the DMT idea, as a drug cannot speed up electrons. This only disproves his proof, not the theory. It is impossible to prove this doesn't happen, much like noone can prove that the soul doesn't exist in the religious sence

Ahh alright, my bad then.  I thought you were discounting that.  But yes, then I agree.  Though I think then, if it's that negligible then it's something not even worth arguing about as it pretty much is untrue.

You have no proof against, other than the fact that the electrons in your brain can only move but so fast. It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time

In other words we're all living in the nightmare version of Inception.

OR if we were, we would be able to change our actions! Good food for thought there bruva.

The real question is why aren't people abusing DMT for its hallucinogenic properties?

If you read the thread, it has already been pointed out that the loop would not be infinite, but it is not unlikely that it could happen multiple times.

I can totally see that you are mentally fit. That is why you have shit for grammar and punctuation, right?

You don't know anyone on these boards, so how can you support your assertion that you are more fit in each way than them?



And yes, I do think it would be exactly the same each time. You inability to recall things has nothing to do with whether or not your brain actually recorded that memory. That only means you consciencely have trouble accessing it. When DMT is occurring, it is a direct access to your memories, it isn't you just trying to remember. You dinner example is irrelevant since you are only needing your own memories. What other people remember is irrelevant.



this is a message board not english class. the point is you are discussing something you have no first hand knowledge of so fuck off engfag

Quote from: Beorn on February 15, 2011, 02:00:26 AM

Quote from: berny_74 on February 14, 2011, 07:55:53 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 14, 2011, 07:15:22 PM

DMT is supposedly a chemical hallucination that is released in your brain as you are dying. This is why some people that have died and returned, have claim to have flash-backs, or near death experiences.

What could this mean? We are already dead (or dying) and what we are experiencing now is a flashback induced by the DMT, which we are bound to experience over and over for eternity.

OR

This actually is the first time we have lived, so you better be satisfied with the way you have lived your life, because you may have to relive it for eternity.

Sounds suspiciously like the movie Jacobs Ladder.

Berny
Eating my shawarma

shoarma??

Shawarma

Berny
Didn't eat the whole thing just a sandwich

Please do not put words in my mouth. It is intellectually dishonest, not that I really expected you to understand anything that requires intelligence anyways.

I would never try to make a fallacious argument that lack of first hand knowledge makes an argument invalid. That is like saying I can't talk about helping orphans in Africa because I have never first handedly met them.

Your logic is ridiculous. I really doubt now that you even have the intellectual capacity equal to that of the average angry noob we get here.

I always love it when angry noobs go out kicking and screaming.

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GUESS WHAT??? YOUR DUMB BECAUSE YOU THINK TEH EARTH IS FLAT!

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