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Re: Thanks, Daniel!
« Reply #60 on: February 04, 2011, 04:17:00 AM »
Even teenage girls know that when they hotlink pictures of Brittany Spears all over their myspace page that the images aren't being hosted on myspace.

Please provide evidence for this outlandish claim.

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« Reply #61 on: February 04, 2011, 09:30:43 AM »
Even teenage girls know that when they hotlink pictures of Brittany Spears all over their myspace page that the images aren't being hosted on myspace.

Please provide evidence for this outlandish claim.

Observe hotlinks on profiles on Myspace.com and notice how the users there seem to have a better grasp on technology than Markjo and Thork.

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« Reply #62 on: February 04, 2011, 09:33:58 AM »
Does not compute.

Sure, I can observe hotlinks on myspace. But that doesn't tell us anything about the intelligence of the posters.

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« Reply #63 on: February 04, 2011, 09:36:27 AM »
Observe hotlinks on profiles on Myspace.com and notice how the users there seem to have a better grasp on technology than Markjo and Thork.

If I were on myspace.com (which I'm not), I'd be more concerned with the security of my private information than with the bandwidth requirements of hotlinking.
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« Reply #64 on: February 04, 2011, 08:45:24 PM »
Does not compute.

Sure, I can observe hotlinks on myspace. But that doesn't tell us anything about the intelligence of the posters.

You don't need to be intelligent to be an IT Professional.
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« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2011, 03:34:39 AM »
Does not compute.

Sure, I can observe hotlinks on myspace. But that doesn't tell us anything about the intelligence of the posters.

You don't need to be intelligent to be an IT Professional.

How does this help you prove that teenage girls know that when they hotlink pictures of Brittany Spears all over their myspace page that the images aren't being hosted on myspace.

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« Reply #66 on: February 05, 2011, 09:04:49 AM »
Does not compute.

Sure, I can observe hotlinks on myspace. But that doesn't tell us anything about the intelligence of the posters.

You don't need to be intelligent to be an IT Professional.

There are a number of specialties within the IT field.  Not all of them deal with internet bandwidth issues.
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« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2011, 12:17:10 PM »
I don't generally make a habit of listening to Tom Bishop's advice, but he may be onto something.  Do any of you know a good, reliable web hosting service?  I like the support I get from mine but their prices are a bit on the high side and I'm constantly worrying about storage/bandwidth running out.  I host a few other domains (mostly tiny personal projects) so I need something that can host multiple domains.  TFES does about 40-50gigs/month and the rest combine to maybe 1 gig.. probably less.

I see a lot of hosting companies offering "unlimited" bandwidth/storage for $5ish which seems too cheap.  I'm happy to pay a fair price as long as it's reliable.  I just don't want to go with a cheap option and run into loads of problems with downtime and whatnot.  Anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: Thanks, Daniel!
« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2011, 12:37:13 PM »
HostGator and Blue Host seem to be bandied about a lot, and I know people who personally use them (I recently switched to HostGator); although as far as I know, none of their sites push as much traffic as TFES.

While they both have those cheaper "unlimited" options, you'd probably have to speak to them in person about what they're actually capable of and if you want to maybe pay a bit more for something dedicated to handle the loads TFES faces.
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« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2011, 12:44:22 PM »
While HostGator is fairly generous compared to other providers, the catch with the "unlimited" shared hosting plans are as follows:

1. They'll cut you off if your site is taking up more than 25% of the CPU for more that 90 seconds at a time.

2. Your site cannot take up more than 25% of the server's RAM for longer than 90 seconds at a time.

3. Hostgator limits how many processes (number of running scripts) you can have running on the server at a time (limit is 25 on shared hosting).

4. Hostgator limits the number of files you can host to 250,000 or so.

5. A process may not run for longer than ten minutes.

6. MySQL queries cannot run for longer than 15 seconds.

But other than that, sure, the bandwidth is unlimited. The main catch is that since bandwidth is directly tied to CPU usage and RAM, the term "unlimited" is questionable. It's unlimited as long as you're not using too much CPU/RAM at a time for longer than 90 seconds at a time. To get an idea of "too much" see Hostgator's Server Specs:

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Our shared servers have dual Xeon E5520 2.26 GHz Quad Core Processors. We run CentOS 5.5 Enterprise Linux x86. The servers have 12 GB of DDR2 or DDR3 RAM. The connection speed on our servers is 100 mbps (mega bits per second). We also have RAID10 and instant weekly backups of your content. Our data center is SoftLayer located in Dallas, Texas, USA.

You cannot use more than 25% of the CPU/RAM resources for longer than 90 seconds.

This is all outlined in HostGator's Terms of Service. Always read through the Terms of Service carefully before signing up to a provider. They usually hide the limits somewhere in the middle of the document.
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Re: Thanks, Daniel!
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2011, 01:19:47 PM »
All the more reason to go with my suggestion of speaking to them personally, rather than just using them.

As for the "limitations," I have nothing that would come close to breaking any of those, though I have to wonder about #6, as I've probably had a query take longer than 15 seconds.
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« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2011, 01:42:35 PM »
I've known a few people who had terrible experiences with HostGator, so they're out of the running.  I'll have a look at Blue Host, though.  And I guess I should just have a talk with my current host and see if they can increase my space/bandwidth.  I'd rather stick with them but I can't justify the jump from the $20 plan to the next one up which is like $50/month.

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« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2011, 05:15:12 PM »
I don't generally make a habit of listening to Tom Bishop's advice, but he may be onto something. 

Be careful Daniel, you don't want to stroke Tom's ego too much.  ;)
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Re: Thanks, Daniel!
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2011, 05:24:36 PM »
I've known a few people who had terrible experiences with HostGator, so they're out of the running.  I'll have a look at Blue Host, though.  And I guess I should just have a talk with my current host and see if they can increase my space/bandwidth.  I'd rather stick with them but I can't justify the jump from the $20 plan to the next one up which is like $50/month.
Sounds like you want a VPS;  what kind of bandwidth are we talking about here for your sites combined?
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Re: Thanks, Daniel!
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2011, 05:32:53 PM »
I've known a few people who had terrible experiences with HostGator, so they're out of the running.  I'll have a look at Blue Host, though.  And I guess I should just have a talk with my current host and see if they can increase my space/bandwidth.  I'd rather stick with them but I can't justify the jump from the $20 plan to the next one up which is like $50/month.
Sounds like you want a VPS;  what kind of bandwidth are we talking about here for your sites combined?

TFES does about 40-50gigs/month and the rest combine to maybe 1 gig.. probably less.

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Re: Thanks, Daniel!
« Reply #75 on: February 20, 2011, 05:38:29 PM »
I've known a few people who had terrible experiences with HostGator, so they're out of the running.  I'll have a look at Blue Host, though.  And I guess I should just have a talk with my current host and see if they can increase my space/bandwidth.  I'd rather stick with them but I can't justify the jump from the $20 plan to the next one up which is like $50/month.
Sounds like you want a VPS;  what kind of bandwidth are we talking about here for your sites combined?

TFES does about 40-50gigs/month and the rest combine to maybe 1 gig.. probably less.
Opps, Thanks.
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Re: Thanks, Daniel!
« Reply #76 on: February 20, 2011, 08:28:46 PM »
All of these "unlimited" web hosts have catches to them. The goal is to find the one with the fewest.

Read the Terms of Service carefully.

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« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2011, 08:42:18 PM »
I doubt an unlimited host is needed.  If I were Daniel I'd one of these and set it up appropriately.

A good choice would be Linode.  Their bottom line package should fit your needs:
Memory      512MB   
Storage   16GB   
Transfer   200GB   
Price   $19.95

I currently use tektonic which has good newbie support if needed.   The only concern with them is their upgrade options are limited.  They also expire.

This is their second from bottom plan:
VPS-1024 (PC or Linux)
Guaranteed RAM - 1024MB
Disk Space - 60GB
Monthly Bandwidth - 500GB
Max CPU - 2.6GHz
Monthly Price- $28.00 (33$ for pc)

They also offer daily backups for a pretty cheap price;  or a free backup whenever you run it.

Of course, both of these require a bit of linux knowledge to set up.  However, I'd be happy to offer my services for free in setting up or helping you set up your server Daniel.  Anytime I can offer my professional services to help FES I'm all for it.
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Re: Thanks, Daniel!
« Reply #78 on: February 21, 2011, 04:31:38 AM »
A good choice would be Linode.  Their bottom line package should fit your needs:
Memory      512MB   
Storage   16GB   
Transfer   200GB   
Price   $19.95

I can vouch for this, as I use this package myself. If you're only using ~50GB per month, this plan will be plenty. I would also be glad to lend a hand with setting it up, if you're unfamiliar with a GNU/Linux environment.

I'd suggest using Debian with nginx if you choose this route, as it will tend to keep your resource usage down when you only have 512 MB of RAM to play with. That said, I run Apache on my Linode (simply because of a feature I need that isn't in nginx), and it runs just fine. But then, I'm not using PHP or anything fancy like that.
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« Reply #79 on: February 21, 2011, 05:24:14 PM »
You'll all be pleased to know that after some tough negotiations (me asking "would you mind increasing by bandwidth, please?" and them saying "yeah, no problem."), our storage and bandwidth issues are resolved for the foreseeable future.  No more end-of-the-month brownouts!

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« Reply #80 on: February 21, 2011, 05:28:10 PM »
Hooray for Daniel!!
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« Reply #81 on: February 21, 2011, 07:26:40 PM »
Daniel deserves his own superhero theme song, someone get on that.
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