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Gordonrox24

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NASA
« on: February 08, 2011, 01:20:09 PM »
I have a simple question that leads elsewhere.

Has NASA every been to space?
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Thork

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2011, 02:02:34 PM »
No.

You were right. That was simple.
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markjo

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Re: NASA
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2011, 02:43:03 PM »
Going into space is not incompatible with FET.
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Re: NASA
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2011, 08:21:09 PM »
if nasa wasnt fobbed off as a conspiracy then the FES wouldbe better off imo. its questionable if we did land on the moon at all, but objects could be thrown into space even with the FET models. PERHAPS nasa cover up that the earth is flat but i dont see why they would lie about all space exploration. if not i would believe the russians would of done it by now even if it was just for a very short ammount of time. at 3000 miles the moon is quite close i would be implied to believe they have had a look at it close up
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Tom Bishop

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Re: NASA
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2011, 10:27:33 PM »
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Re: NASA
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2011, 11:13:29 PM »
Well Gordon, there's your answer. Where was this leading, exactly?
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Re: NASA
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2011, 05:19:03 AM »
Quote from: Gordonrox24 on February 08, 2011, 01:20:09 PM
I have a simple question that leads elsewhere.

Has NASA every been to space?

Of course they have.  How do you explain ISS sightings, the thousands of pictures or Earths/space taken by NASA, and frequently observed shuttle launches?
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Tom Bishop

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Re: NASA
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 12:16:13 PM »
Quote from: Hessy on February 09, 2011, 05:19:03 AM
Quote from: Gordonrox24 on February 08, 2011, 01:20:09 PM
I have a simple question that leads elsewhere.

Has NASA every been to space?

Of course they have.  How do you explain ISS sightings, the thousands of pictures or Earths/space taken by NASA, and frequently observed shuttle launches?

We don't deny that the ISS is observed flying across the sky, whatever it is.

Any picture showing the earth as a globe is a fake.

The shuttle launches are real, but the shuttle missions are fake.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2011, 12:22:02 PM by Tom Bishop »
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EnglshGentleman

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Re: NASA
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 12:25:18 PM »
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Re: NASA
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 12:27:22 PM »
Probably.

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Re: NASA
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2011, 12:32:23 PM »
the ISS and other satellites fly due to photoelectric suspension, similar to the effect that suspends the sun and the moon.  It is fueled by regular shuttle deliveries of Sun shrimp.
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2011, 12:42:52 PM »
Quote from: Nolhekh on February 09, 2011, 12:32:23 PM
the ISS and other satellites fly due to photoelectric suspension, similar to the effect that suspends the sun and the moon.  It is fueled by regular shuttle deliveries of Sun shrimp.

Justify this statement.
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Nolhekh

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Re: NASA
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2011, 12:47:14 PM »
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 09, 2011, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: Nolhekh on February 09, 2011, 12:32:23 PM
the ISS and other satellites fly due to photoelectric suspension, similar to the effect that suspends the sun and the moon.  It is fueled by regular shuttle deliveries of Sun shrimp.

Justify this statement.

I see evidence of this when I look at the ISS.  If the earth is flat, how else could it be?
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Re: NASA
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2011, 02:22:52 PM »
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Gordonrox24

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Re: NASA
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2011, 07:48:19 PM »
Ok. So, the rich can now purchase flights into space. I would really hope some day a FE'r can afford to head up there for themselves. Just to put an end to it. Somebody should really talk to NASA about that. Would solve all the issues.

Historical question. Russia and the USA have been at odds for a long time. During the race into space, they were definitely not friendly. Especially under communism the USSR was not fond of following rules. How did the conspiracy survive during this time? Would the USSR, once into space, not spread the word that the world is indeed flat, in another attempt to mess with the system the so despised?
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Re: NASA
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2011, 09:50:18 PM »
The conspiracy can easily survive same way the UFO's conspiracy survives. Both Russian and American governments refuse to disclose the truth about UFO's, they refuse to disclose many things and yes two governments are actually working together to hide the truth. It is called the New World Order.

This whole Russia vs USA feud is staged anyways. In reality the world is run by global elites who manipulate nations and play chess game with politics, don't be so naive folks.
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Re: NASA
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2011, 11:59:28 PM »
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 09, 2011, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: Nolhekh on February 09, 2011, 12:32:23 PM
the ISS and other satellites fly due to photoelectric suspension, similar to the effect that suspends the sun and the moon.  It is fueled by regular shuttle deliveries of Sun shrimp.

Justify this statement.

Justify the statements in the FAQ.
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Gordonrox24

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Re: NASA
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2011, 01:57:42 PM »
Bill Clinton couldn't even keep his sex life a secret. There is no way he could keep this a secret as well. I'm sorry guys, but every claim you make is backed up by the conspiracy you can't prove exists...
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Re: NASA
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2011, 02:02:35 PM »
Quote from: Gordonrox24 on February 25, 2011, 01:57:42 PM
Bill Clinton couldn't even keep his sex life a secret. There is no way he could keep this a secret as well. I'm sorry guys, but every claim you make is backed up by the conspiracy you can't prove exists...

There's a whole host of evidence which shows NASA's fakery. No one is saying that they're pulling off a perfect scam. They make all sorts of mistakes.

# NASA sends Neil and Buzz around to give foreign heads of states questionable moon rocks
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32581790/ns/technology_and_science-science/

# Thomas Baron Silenced for Attempting to Expose the Truth
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Thomas+Baron+Silenced+for+Attempting+to+Expose+the+Truth

# A Close Look at the Lunar Lander
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=A+Close+Look+at+the+Lunar+Lander

# The Apollo Sun is a Stage Light
http://www.screencast.com/users/tbishop/folders/Jing/media/d5784ce2-2348-40a0-8f9b-0ddf37763b6e

# Dr. David Groves Photography Analysis
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Re: NASA
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2011, 02:25:15 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 25, 2011, 02:02:35 PM
# NASA sends Neil and Buzz around to give foreign heads of states questionable moon rocks
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32581790/ns/technology_and_science-science/

You've already been called out on this lie.  Your deliberate dishonesty in the upper forums is despicable.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=45854.msg1137813#msg1137813
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Quote from: Tom Bishop on June 06, 2011, 10:26:54 AM
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Tom Bishop

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Re: NASA
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2011, 02:42:04 PM »
Quote from: Part of the Problem on February 25, 2011, 02:25:15 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 25, 2011, 02:02:35 PM
# NASA sends Neil and Buzz around to give foreign heads of states questionable moon rocks
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32581790/ns/technology_and_science-science/

You've already been called out on this lie.  Your deliberate dishonesty in the upper forums is despicable.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=45854.msg1137813#msg1137813


It's not a lie. The moon rock they gave to the prime minister was fake. See the MSNBC article.
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Re: NASA
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2011, 02:48:51 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 25, 2011, 02:42:04 PM
Quote from: Part of the Problem on February 25, 2011, 02:25:15 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 25, 2011, 02:02:35 PM
# NASA sends Neil and Buzz around to give foreign heads of states questionable moon rocks
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32581790/ns/technology_and_science-science/

You've already been called out on this lie.  Your deliberate dishonesty in the upper forums is despicable.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=45854.msg1137813#msg1137813


It's not a lie. The moon rock they gave to the prime minister was fake. See the MSNBC article.

See the linked thread.  It is a lie to say that "NASA sends Neil and Buzz around to give foreign heads of states questionable moon rocks."  You know it is a lie and hope that no one will read the actual article.  Again, your deliberate dishonesty gives FE a bad name.
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Quote from: Tom Bishop on June 06, 2011, 10:26:54 AM
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Gordonrox24

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Re: NASA
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2011, 02:50:44 PM »
Tom, I read all of those links, and they are all flawed in some way shape or form. The only one that even remotely stirred my interest was your video of the "fake sun". Can you take a photo of the sun and do the same test and see what results you get? I would be interested in the results.
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Re: NASA
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2011, 03:54:12 PM »
All of Tom's allegations of NASA's 'fakery' have been debunked elsewhere.
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Tom Bishop

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Re: NASA
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2011, 05:46:33 PM »
Quote from: Part of the Problem on February 25, 2011, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 25, 2011, 02:42:04 PM
Quote from: Part of the Problem on February 25, 2011, 02:25:15 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 25, 2011, 02:02:35 PM
# NASA sends Neil and Buzz around to give foreign heads of states questionable moon rocks
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32581790/ns/technology_and_science-science/

You've already been called out on this lie.  Your deliberate dishonesty in the upper forums is despicable.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=45854.msg1137813#msg1137813


It's not a lie. The moon rock they gave to the prime minister was fake. See the MSNBC article.

See the linked thread.  It is a lie to say that "NASA sends Neil and Buzz around to give foreign heads of states questionable moon rocks."  You know it is a lie and hope that no one will read the actual article.  Again, your deliberate dishonesty gives FE a bad name.

Who gives a crap if it was NASA who gave it to the US Ambassador who gave it to the Prime Minister? Neil and Buzz were the ones who collected it from the moon (allegedly) and gave it to NASA, therefore it was a gift from all of them.

The point is that they gave a fake moon rock to the Prime Minister.
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Tom Bishop

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Re: NASA
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2011, 06:02:56 PM »
Quote from: General Disarray on February 25, 2011, 03:54:12 PM
All of Tom's allegations of NASA's 'fakery' have been debunked elsewhere.

Someone debunked that the moon rock was fake?
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markjo

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Re: NASA
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2011, 06:09:06 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 25, 2011, 05:46:33 PM
Who gives a crap if it was NASA who gave it to the US Ambassador who gave it to the Prime Minister? Neil and Buzz were the ones who collected it from the moon (allegedly) and gave it to NASA, therefore it was a gift from all of them.

The point is that they gave a fake moon rock to the Prime Minister.

Where is your evidence that NASA (or any one else involved) claimed that the rock presented came from the moon?
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Re: NASA
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2011, 06:11:33 PM »
Quote from: markjo on February 25, 2011, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 25, 2011, 05:46:33 PM
Who gives a crap if it was NASA who gave it to the US Ambassador who gave it to the Prime Minister? Neil and Buzz were the ones who collected it from the moon (allegedly) and gave it to NASA, therefore it was a gift from all of them.

The point is that they gave a fake moon rock to the Prime Minister.

Where is your evidence that NASA (or any one else involved) claimed that the rock presented came from the moon?

RTFA:

"The museum had vetted the moon rock with a phone call to NASA, Van Gelder said."
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markjo

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Re: NASA
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2011, 06:27:17 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 25, 2011, 06:11:33 PM
Quote from: markjo on February 25, 2011, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 25, 2011, 05:46:33 PM
Who gives a crap if it was NASA who gave it to the US Ambassador who gave it to the Prime Minister? Neil and Buzz were the ones who collected it from the moon (allegedly) and gave it to NASA, therefore it was a gift from all of them.

The point is that they gave a fake moon rock to the Prime Minister.

Where is your evidence that NASA (or any one else involved) claimed that the rock presented came from the moon?

RTFA:

"The museum had vetted the moon rock with a phone call to NASA, Van Gelder said."

I did RTFA, did you?
Quote from: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32581790/ns/technology_and_science-science/
The museum had vetted the moon rock with a phone call to NASA, Van Gelder said.

She said the space agency told the museum then that it was possible the Netherlands had received a rock: NASA gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries in the early 1970s, but those were from later missions.
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Re: NASA
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2011, 06:41:31 PM »
Like I said,

Quote from: General Disarray on February 25, 2011, 03:54:12 PM
All of Tom's allegations of NASA's 'fakery' have been debunked elsewhere.
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