Proof of Infinite Earth in the Bible

I'm not a baptist, nor do I go to church anymore. I already told you I don't like organized religions.

Revelation chapter 21:15,16, here is your size of the New Jerusalem, please do minimal of research and realize if converted to miles the city is 1500 miles in all directions.

Now back to your comment Squevil about paradise on this current earth. It is obvious that you think like a Marxist. Marx believed that mankind is naturally good, but its the capitalist system that makes men corrupt and greedy, he believed that if we get rid of money, human beings will literally change their entire perspective toward life and society, of course he was wrong and his idea is a utopia that can never work. That is because mankind is not naturally good, mankind is naturally greedy and sinful, people will never truly unite, it is a human nature to compete and step over others to gain more then the next guy, to crush others and live better then your neighbor. So please wake up.

This world will never be paradise because the energy that dwells in this world is awful. Humanity will be presented two choices, die or ascend, accept new reality and new planet earth or die forever. Those are two choices. 

Observe the current reality. Just try having a sober mind and see this world for what it is, you will quickly notice that the world is getting worse and worse with each day. Yep not with each year, but with each day.

again you are judging people before you know them  paradise is what you make of it, for me its just living easy doing the things i like for others its having it all or whatever. yeh your right its others greed that wrecks it for us, ive never been one for competition to make it to the top but thats why ill never be sucsessful in this capitalist country. i just think that without those 2 things we would be living in a better place. perhaps we will be currupted by something else? i guess its in our nature we are only animals after all, we just think we are something special.

Why is there a religious debate? It's one thing to attempt to use the Bible as your evidence as to why you believe one way or the other (and New Earth chose neither on top of it); it's quite another to have a full scale religious debate, which is happening right now.

Quote from: New Earth on February 08, 2011, 02:36:43 PM

Revelation chapter 21:15,16, here is your size of the New Jerusalem, please do minimal of research and realize if converted to miles the city is 1500 miles in all directions.

Now back to your comment Squevil about paradise on this current earth. It is obvious that you think like a Marxist. Marx believed that mankind is naturally good, but its the capitalist system that makes men corrupt and greedy, he believed that if we get rid of money, human beings will literally change their entire perspective toward life and society, of course he was wrong and his idea is a utopia that can never work. That is because mankind is not naturally good, mankind is naturally greedy and sinful, people will never truly unite, it is a human nature to compete and step over others to gain more then the next guy, to crush others and live better then your neighbor. So please wake up.

This world will never be paradise because the energy that dwells in this world is awful. Humanity will be presented two choices, die or ascend, accept new reality and new planet earth or die forever. Those are two choices. 

Observe the current reality. Just try having a sober mind and see this world for what it is, you will quickly notice that the world is getting worse and worse with each day. Yep not with each year, but with each day.

again you are judging people before you know them  paradise is what you make of it, for me its just living easy doing the things i like for others its having it all or whatever. yeh your right its others greed that wrecks it for us, ive never been one for competition to make it to the top but thats why ill never be sucsessful in this capitalist country. i just think that without those 2 things we would be living in a better place. perhaps we will be currupted by something else? i guess its in our nature we are only animals after all, we just think we are something special.

Incorrect. We are not animals, we are divine beings, but the world molded us into bunch of animals.

i know we are going waaay off topic but please elaberate, what makes us so special?

What makes us special is that we are a lot more intelligent then an animal kingdom, we can reason, we don't live by instincts, we know right from wrong.  Also we are the only species with a soul. When an animal dies, that's the end, when we die, we just begun, you feel me?

New Earth, I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but I gather that not very many people at all ever really "feel you."

Absolutely correct, not many people do

Absolutely correct, not many people do

Because everything that comes out of your mouth is pure speculation. I've said this many times already, but you choose to ignore it. Don't you agree with me? And if you don't, please, please explain how it is more than just speculation.

Well to me evolution is speculation, to you its scientific fact, I'm really tired of arguing about this. You are a good man Puttah, I'm glad we got to chat a little, but let's not discuss this subject any further.

So. . . where's the cite to those crazy Jerusalem dimensionsin the Bible?

. . . just curious.

Well to me evolution is speculation, to you its scientific fact, I'm really tired of arguing about this. You are a good man Puttah, I'm glad we got to chat a little, but let's not discuss this subject any further.

Well I think evolution is on a completely different playing field. It has evidence to support it with obvious short term evolutionary processes such as adaptations and mutations. To ponder what could happen given thousands of generations down the line easily leads to the idea of evolution.
And I don't think it is fact. It won't be fact till it is shown to be true through direct means, rather than indirect logical means.
But honestly, how do your speculative responses weigh against these more well known and understood theories? And I don't think we've discussed it much at all, considering you try to dodge them most times 

So. . . where's the cite to those crazy Jerusalem dimensionsin the Bible?

. . . just curious.

I would guess Revelation 21:16...

"And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal" (KJV)

http://minuteswithmessiah.tripod.com/question/newjerusalem.html
that does make alot more sense than a super city.

NE you clearly have very strong views on who we are and where we are going. we have as much chance as convincing you otherwise than we do of convincing the guys here that the earth is round!

So. . . where's the cite to those crazy Jerusalem dimensionsin the Bible?

. . . just curious.

Revelation 21:15,16, convert stadia to miles, if you can't do that just google it.

There's also "proof" in the Bible that pi is equal to 3... perhaps we should read some other books.

I will make everyone happy here OK; There is no infinite earth, there will never be an infinite earth. There are no parallel universes or other realities. This stupid world is all there is to it. While we live, we suffer and when we die we go back to the dust of the earth. Is this what you guys wanted me to say all this time? Well I said it, anymore arguments?

I will make everyone happy here OK; There is no infinite earth, there will never be an infinite earth. There are no parallel universes or other realities. This stupid world is all there is to it. While we live, we suffer and when we die we go back to the dust of the earth. Is this what you guys wanted me to say all this time? Well I said it, anymore arguments?

Score.

I just made a troll snap and reveal himself!

Quote from: New Earth on February 10, 2011, 01:44:52 PM

I will make everyone happy here OK; There is no infinite earth, there will never be an infinite earth. There are no parallel universes or other realities. This stupid world is all there is to it. While we live, we suffer and when we die we go back to the dust of the earth. Is this what you guys wanted me to say all this time? Well I said it, anymore arguments?

Score.

I just made a troll snap and reveal himself!

I'm pretty sure this is a victory for everyone.

Yes it is a victory for everyone. Also I didn't snap I told you what you wanted to hear.

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 10, 2011, 01:47:41 PM

Quote from: New Earth on February 10, 2011, 01:44:52 PM

I will make everyone happy here OK; There is no infinite earth, there will never be an infinite earth. There are no parallel universes or other realities. This stupid world is all there is to it. While we live, we suffer and when we die we go back to the dust of the earth. Is this what you guys wanted me to say all this time? Well I said it, anymore arguments?

Score.

I just made a troll snap and reveal himself!

I'm pretty sure this is a victory for everyone.

New Earth's true beliefs are revealed, and he's not crazy!  Now we celebrate!

Yes parallel universes are too crazy, only leading physicists believe in them, they should all see a shrink right?

Yes parallel universes are too crazy, only leading physicists believe in them, they should all see a shrink right?

Why would you want to believe what leading physicists believe?  I thought you didn't trust modern science.

Quote from: New Earth on February 10, 2011, 03:38:49 PM

Yes parallel universes are too crazy, only leading physicists believe in them, they should all see a shrink right?

Why would you want to believe what leading physicists believe?  I thought you didn't trust modern science.

Oh my goodness, don't provoke another snapping after he has already snapped, just nod and smile.

I honestly think its crazy of you guys to remain Newtonian and ignorant in the midst of so much evidence for the parallel universes and true nature of time, which is non linear.

Calling someone crazy rather than properly attacking their arguments just makes yourself look bad.

I honestly think its crazy of you guys to remain Newtonian and ignorant in the midst of so much evidence for the parallel universes and true nature of time, which is non linear.

I experience Newtonian physics every moment of my life.  It's the easiest thing to notice.  Just sitting on the bus I can identify every force I feel, and predict the forces I will experience during certain manoeuvers the bus driver makes.  Without Newton, I would never have noticed this.  Evidence for parallel universes does not compare to everyday experience.

much evidence for the parallel universes and true nature of time, which is non linear.

Oh really? I would like to see your evidence for this.

Or is it going to be completely conjecture, just like your supposedly deist beliefs.

Calling someone crazy rather than properly attacking their arguments just makes yourself look bad.

Well they called me crazy, didn't they? Why don't you address them!

English Gent; It doesn't matter how much evidence I provide, you will never accept it unless it comes from a classroom.

Funny thing is, you keep saying that I am closed minded and that I won't accept any evidence you give me, but you haven't even given me any evidence yet!

So you got nothing to back up your claim?

Thought so.