Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way

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sirTheMore

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Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« on: January 25, 2011, 09:42:00 AM »
To whom it is concerned:
Like many other colleagues on this site, I too have discovered the hypocrisy of the zetetic way.  If we determine the shape of the earth based on what we see when we look out the window, why not then conclude that the earth is another shape?  Why could we not be living on one face of a cube?  It seems that the zetetic way makes some pretty lofty assumptions which have not been verified by direct observation.  How can one assume that the earth is disk shaped if not one soul has made it to the edge to observe this claim?
Thank you kindly

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2011, 10:20:13 AM »
I have no idea, and am interested in the answer to this as well.

Would any FE'er care to provide?

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EnglshGentleman

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2011, 12:28:43 PM »
Someone clearly misunderstand the Zetetic method.

May I direct you to some scholarly works by brilliant scientific minds, namely, "Earth Not A Globe"?

Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2011, 01:16:38 PM »
May I direct you to some scholarly works by brilliant scientific minds, namely, "Earth Not A Globe"?

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Thevoiceofreason

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 03:53:35 PM »
To whom it is concerned:
Like many other colleagues on this site, I too have discovered the hypocrisy of the zetetic way.  If we determine the shape of the earth based on what we see when we look out the window, why not then conclude that the earth is another shape?  Why could we not be living on one face of a cube?  It seems that the zetetic way makes some pretty lofty assumptions which have not been verified by direct observation.  How can one assume that the earth is disk shaped if not one soul has made it to the edge to observe this claim?
Thank you kindly


Zeteticism is the biggest joke/troll on the site. There's no more annoying of an argument, than to say someone's theories are wrong because of the underlying logical system that they associate with

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011, 04:01:32 PM »
To whom it is concerned:
Like many other colleagues on this site, I too have discovered the hypocrisy of the zetetic way.  If we determine the shape of the earth based on what we see when we look out the window, why not then conclude that the earth is another shape?  Why could we not be living on one face of a cube?  It seems that the zetetic way makes some pretty lofty assumptions which have not been verified by direct observation.  How can one assume that the earth is disk shaped if not one soul has made it to the edge to observe this claim?
Thank you kindly


Zeteticism is the biggest joke/troll on the site. There's no more annoying of an argument, than to say someone's theories are wrong because of the underlying logical system that they associate with

It just may be that you have not spent enough time studying Zeteticism? Until you do that you can not make such a sweeping statement. 

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 04:07:07 PM »
No one on this site has demonstrated an adherence to zetetic methodology.
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EnglshGentleman

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011, 05:14:24 PM »
Really? You have checked all 18291 members that we have so far?

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2011, 05:49:25 PM »
Lurk moar.  I'm probably more of a zetetic than any of the FE'ers around here.
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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2011, 06:29:36 PM »
Really? You have checked all 18291 members that we have so far?

Moon shrimp, EG.

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2011, 01:39:04 AM »
To whom it is concerned:
Like many other colleagues on this site, I too have discovered the hypocrisy of the zetetic way.  If we determine the shape of the earth based on what we see when we look out the window, why not then conclude that the earth is another shape?  Why could we not be living on one face of a cube?  It seems that the zetetic way makes some pretty lofty assumptions which have not been verified by direct observation.  How can one assume that the earth is disk shaped if not one soul has made it to the edge to observe this claim?
Thank you kindly



To the good honourable gentleman, concerning the meritorious enquiry which has been so illustriously presented to the noble gentlemen of the debating forum.

Your concern is of no small significance to the finite flat Earth model, upon which your attention has been fixed. I do propose to be in full agreement with your goodly self. But lo! Having never seen limit or end to this mighty expanse upon which we stand, all good sirs are compelled by sincerest of zetetic measures to infer the indefinite eternity of this majestic world. For this reason above all do I submit to the infinite flat Earth model, for it is the truest and grandest of all such proposals.

My sincerest wishes to you and your kin.

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Thevoiceofreason

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2011, 04:21:34 AM »
To whom it is concerned:
Like many other colleagues on this site, I too have discovered the hypocrisy of the zetetic way.  If we determine the shape of the earth based on what we see when we look out the window, why not then conclude that the earth is another shape?  Why could we not be living on one face of a cube?  It seems that the zetetic way makes some pretty lofty assumptions which have not been verified by direct observation.  How can one assume that the earth is disk shaped if not one soul has made it to the edge to observe this claim?
Thank you kindly


Zeteticism is the biggest joke/troll on the site. There's no more annoying of an argument, than to say someone's theories are wrong because of the underlying logical system that they associate with

It just may be that you have not spent enough time studying Zeteticism? Until you do that you can not make such a sweeping statement. 

I said on this site. I have looked into it, and it seems reasonable. What doesn't make any sense, is the hypocrisy. Like how we're supposed to take ENaG as the gospel and shun everything else. Or the whole no hypothesis thing. You guys don't really understand the glories of the Scientific Method. You make a Hypothesis, so your experiment has something falsifiable. The only difference b/t the SM and Zeteticism, is that in science, you have an educated guess between the question and the experiment. And then theirs the refinement that comes after the conclusion. And Zeteticism on this site is just the first half of SM. Observation-Question-Conclusion. SM is stricltly better than Zeteticism in this way for determining fact. Watch an episode of House and imagine how far the team would get if noone made educated guesses

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sirTheMore

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2011, 08:21:36 AM »
To whom it is concerned:
Like many other colleagues on this site, I too have discovered the hypocrisy of the zetetic way.  If we determine the shape of the earth based on what we see when we look out the window, why not then conclude that the earth is another shape?  Why could we not be living on one face of a cube?  It seems that the zetetic way makes some pretty lofty assumptions which have not been verified by direct observation.  How can one assume that the earth is disk shaped if not one soul has made it to the edge to observe this claim?
Thank you kindly



To the good honourable gentleman, concerning the meritorious enquiry which has been so illustriously presented to the noble gentlemen of the debating forum.

Your concern is of no small significance to the finite flat Earth model, upon which your attention has been fixed. I do propose to be in full agreement with your goodly self. But lo! Having never seen limit or end to this mighty expanse upon which we stand, all good sirs are compelled by sincerest of zetetic measures to infer the indefinite eternity of this majestic world. For this reason above all do I submit to the infinite flat Earth model, for it is the truest and grandest of all such proposals.

My sincerest wishes to you and your kin.

May I first offer my most honorable thanks to the response to my query, however you do indeed mention that some zetetic thinkers "infer" the infinite expanse of this earth.  Please do correct me if I am mistaken, but it would seem to this kindly gentleman that inferring any sort of thing would be fundamentally incompatible with the zetetic way.  For it is certain that one cannot obtain direct sensorial evidence that the earth be an infinite disk.
Kind gentlemen, I do wish to declare that although these fora are for the sole purpose of education of the flat earth, I would also enjoy expressing my gratitude for the opportunity to post in them.  Thank you all for your time and interest in this subject.

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2011, 09:28:30 AM »
Good sirs, the hypocrisy is not inherent in the method itself, but it lies in the proponents of the method. Truly, the zetetic assumption on witnessing a ship sink below the horizon and knowing that the ship has not descended into the briny depths is that the Earth is a sphere, rather than that we witness a strange and undocumented phenomenon of light or perspective.
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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2011, 10:53:49 AM »
Someone clearly misunderstand the Zetetic method.

May I direct you to some scholarly works by brilliant scientific minds, namely, "Earth Not A Globe"?

Agreed. The OP needs to read Chapter 2 of Earth Not a Globe in particular.

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2011, 12:34:42 PM »
Are you now denying your own method?

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2011, 12:50:30 PM »

May I first offer my most honorable thanks to the response to my query, however you do indeed mention that some zetetic thinkers "infer" the infinite expanse of this earth.  Please do correct me if I am mistaken, but it would seem to this kindly gentleman that inferring any sort of thing would be fundamentally incompatible with the zetetic way.  For it is certain that one cannot obtain direct sensorial evidence that the earth be an infinite disk.


Goodliest of sirs; your concern, I must humbly contend, is of a misguided inclination. For it is most essentially evident that any method of human reason must utilise for its expansion an inference of some sort. Thence, it is understood that the scientific method is reliant upon inference to the great cost of sensorial experience. Meanwhile, it is understood that the zetetic method builds inferences of the strictest sorts directly upon sensorial experience!

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Re: Kindly gentlemen -- concerning the zetetic way
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2011, 01:16:09 PM »
Someone clearly misunderstand the Zetetic method.

May I direct you to some scholarly works by brilliant scientific minds, namely, "Earth Not A Globe"?

Agreed. The OP needs to read Chapter 2 of Earth Not a Globe in particular.

i think you need to read it again after chapter 2....then maybe comment on my post