Why do RE believers come here?

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EnglshGentleman

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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2011, 07:53:02 PM »
I come here because there's nothing like a good debate.  Sadly, this place is nothing like a good debate.

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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2011, 08:00:31 PM »
English Gent, you seem to defend the RE's all the time, are you the official FE troll?
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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2011, 08:06:53 PM »
I would never join this forum if I thought that flat earth theory was ridiculous. I came here to educate myself and learn about flat earth theory. Most RE folks come here to mock, ridicule and insult, this is a terrible thing for the society. Even flat earthers here attack each other constantly, thus I was called a "new fag" uncalled for, but what did the admins do about it? Nothing!

May be FES does not care about the growth of their movement, because many people come here, witness the childish non sense and never come back. I'm sure that a lot more people would take FE seriously if the forums were less juvenile and less hostile. The trolls and mockers make it extremely discouraging for anyone who wishes to learn the theory to stay.

You're taking this forum far too seriously.

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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2011, 08:39:58 PM »
English Gent, you seem to defend the RE's all the time, are you the official FE troll?

Defending RE'ers is different than defending RET.

You are in no position to call other people trolls, considering that is all you have done here so far.

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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2011, 10:04:56 PM »
I was just wondering why do so many RE people come to this forum and talk all that ish all the time with their stupid insults and empty challenges? Then something hit me, RE'rs are not sure themselves about the shape of our world, so they are intrigued by the flat earth theory. They are too proud to admit that flat earth makes perfect sense, so they come to this forum and talk garbage. Hey guys guess what? If you think FE is a dumb idea and that only idiots believe in it, guess what it makes you when you join this forum and reply in every thread?  ::)
You're right.  I was intrigued by the flat earth idea, so I gave it a shot.  What I found was a model that didn't mathematically fit easy everyday observation, and that basically I'd have to be convinced everything I know is a lie to believe any of the flat earth theories.  I stay on for mental stimulation (I mentioned earlier that I learned how to use math to draw in perspective while debating here), and for entertainment, and also partially because I'm addicted.

Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2011, 10:20:58 PM »
As long as you are respectful and are able to debate without resorting to insults and cheap shots I have no problem with you, whether you believe in RE or FE. I'm a very fair person, I give everyone an equal chance. But when you act like a dick to me, don't expect me to be nice to you.
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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2011, 11:41:46 PM »
A good starting point would be the threads about Zeteticism for example.  Compare that with the scientific method that has hypothesis testing at its core and it will start to make sense!
Zeteticism says I can't trust any media outlets unless I was there to witness the event happening. 9/11 could have all been staged by 2001-grade CGI for all a Zetetic knows. Maybe Columbine never happened and it's just a way to get violent video games off the market. Also, nobody else's experiments or observations matter because the Zetetic was not there to observe them. How exactly is this progressive in terms of acquiring new knowledge, and most importantly: how does it make sense?

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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2011, 01:01:39 AM »
I come here because there's nothing like a good debate.  Sadly, this place is nothing like a good debate.
My reason, more or less.  But it's still fun.

English Gent, you seem to defend the RE's all the time, are you the official FE troll?
I'm an RE'er and this is why I generally like Englsh.  When he's not trolling, he's pretty damn good at not being too biased in his posts.

As long as you are respectful and are able to debate without resorting to insults and cheap shots I have no problem with you, whether you believe in RE or FE. I'm a very fair person, I give everyone an equal chance. But when you act like a dick to me, don't expect me to be nice to you.
That's great, but, when your "not being nice" is like this:
Hey Beorn remember when Eminem walked into this bar or a night club and he ran into the ICP and they were gonna kick his wigga's ass, so he ran like a little B, and cried a river to DR DRE how the clowns almost killed him?

hahaha I bet you still crying over that incident little dude.
...then don't expect anyone to take you seriously.
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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2011, 10:06:29 AM »
OK you guys don't believe me that I am an OG, so I wrote a little rap verse for yo all, check this out;

You may say I'm a troll like MR Trollala that lame Russian Youtube singer, it aint no lie that I spit verses like curses show you how worser then worst gets, cause a thug like me got lost in the infinite earths, Gather winds from four corners like four horsemen, call me Ric Flair cause I'm a legend in this game a true player, call me Sid Vicious, cry babies use tissues, I'm a lyrical genius, all scientific like Tom Bishop, You can't come back at me with your weak ass raps, I bust caps like Scarface and leave police without a case, no trace no evidence just blood stains on the snow cause I come from the Go, Chi Town ILLA the middle of the map for sure.

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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2011, 10:46:32 AM »
MC NEW EARTH IN DA HOUSE! Seriously, this lad thinks he's some kind of G.
Always check your tackle- Caerphilly school of Health. If I see an innuendo in my post, I'll be sure to whip it out.

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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2011, 10:59:57 AM »
... maybe this decade when i get laid i can try and use FET as a chat up line, perhaps it may even happen twice (if im very lucky)
I'm sorry to break it to you, but telling girls that you spend your evenings trying to convince people that the earth is round on the internet, is likely to bare little fruit. Might I suggest you use that time to go to the gym instead. That way you should be able to hold your quarry down until you are finished.




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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2011, 11:39:38 AM »
Back on topic folks
The illusion is shattered if we ask what goes on behind the scenes.

Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2011, 11:44:32 AM »
I like your name Hazbollah, it is very patriotic, very American LOL
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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2011, 01:33:16 PM »
I like your name Hazbollah, it is very patriotic, very American LOL
Not American mate. people call me haz, so, hazbollah.
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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2011, 01:37:29 PM »
OK you guys don't believe me that I am an OG, so I wrote a little rap verse for yo all, check this out;

You may say I'm a troll like MR Trollala that lame Russian Youtube singer, it aint no lie that I spit verses like curses show you how worser then worst gets, cause a thug like me got lost in the infinite earths, Gather winds from four corners like four horsemen, call me Ric Flair cause I'm a legend in this game a true player, call me Sid Vicious, cry babies use tissues, I'm a lyrical genius, all scientific like Tom Bishop, You can't come back at me with your weak ass raps, I bust caps like Scarface and leave police without a case, no trace no evidence just blood stains on the snow cause I come from the Go, Chi Town ILLA the middle of the map for sure.


I get it now. New Earth wanted to identify himself as a Flat Earther and start trolling as hard as he could in order to ruin the Flat Earth Society's reputation. An interesting ploy...

Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2011, 02:10:39 PM »
No this is not true at all. I'm a rapper I opened up for Three Six Mafia and Bone Thugs few times. I like to have fun and goof around a little bit on this forum, but I have no plot or no plan. I like Flat Earth Society, especially John Davis infinite earth model.
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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2011, 04:05:10 PM »
... maybe this decade when i get laid i can try and use FET as a chat up line, perhaps it may even happen twice (if im very lucky)
I'm sorry to break it to you, but telling girls that you spend your evenings trying to convince people that the earth is round on the internet, is likely to bare little fruit. Might I suggest you use that time to go to the gym instead. That way you should be able to hold your quarry down until you are finished.






dam ill have to try something new then :/
still enjoying FES thanks to posts from new earth, i like you just a bit more now your good to laugh at

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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2011, 04:07:38 PM »
No this is not true at all. I'm a rapper I opened up for Three Six Mafia and Bone Thugs few times. I like to have fun and goof around a little bit on this forum, but I have no plot or no plan. I like Flat Earth Society, especially John Davis infinite earth model.

I am a rapper too. Most of my raps are about the wearing of sensible clothes, so you can imagine how busy I am in winter lol. I also like this site but I do not adhere to the John Davis/Username model.

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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2011, 04:41:30 PM »
I am not a rapper, but I sometimes like to try poems.

There was an FEr called New Earth,
Who was desperate to show us his worth,
But you need to lurk to get troll wings
and dumb noobs post dumb things
He should have been strangled at birth

As for infinite earth, should I ever get admission into the FEB forum if it is opened up to more FErs, then this will be my first order of business. I find infinite earth the most un-Zetetic theory possible. I cannot think of a single example of anything I have ever observed that has been infinite. Infinity is a concept. Not reality. Nothing physical is infinite. As soon as anything becomes infinite, there is no space for anything else in the universe.
"Infinite Plain theory" is a sound bite. If the earth is infinite then it has infinite mass. Now you are screwed either way. Infinite mass means infinite gravity. Or infinite power required for acceleration. Both not possible. Why the departure from standard FET that has been good at giving us a framework for everything else? And whilst I feel it is wrong "FEBs" -( don't get me started on this ...) post theories with no explanation whatsoever (I don't demand evidence, just an explanation), I find it even more annoying when noobs latch on claiming they have believed this all their lives and they too have nothing to add other than what a great sounding theory it is.  

Rowbotham gave us the framework for the model below (This is Voliva's model). I am very happy with it.


Please feel free to post an infinite model ::)
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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2011, 04:57:41 PM »
I was just wondering why do so many RE people come to this forum and talk all that ish all the time with their stupid insults and empty challenges? Then something hit me, RE'rs are not sure themselves about the shape of our world, so they are intrigued by the flat earth theory. They are too proud to admit that flat earth makes perfect sense, so they come to this forum and talk garbage. Hey guys guess what? If you think FE is a dumb idea and that only idiots believe in it, guess what it makes you when you join this forum and reply in every thread?  ::)

yes precisely. we come here because we're unsure of the shape of the earth. Its not like We'd come here as a trap to be trolled or anything. of course, this is explained by the fact that uncertainty about the shape of the earth is never ever brought up in conversation, so clearly thousands of people secretly are unsure of the shape of he earth.

And the answer, is, because humans like to fight. When people like "new earth" make stupid threads, a switch turns on in peoples heads that make them want to kill the argument with fire. Its not dumb to fight, because usually if you fight enough, the enemy is beaten to submission, thus ending them, and their influence.

Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2011, 05:20:00 PM »
Thork, first of all the map you presented is extremely inaccurate, especially the shape of Australia. Also Thork do you believe that you can go far enough and fall of the edge? A disc floating in space is indeed against laws of physics and completely unrealistic, it was rejected hundreds of years ago and actually round earth makes a lot more sense then a disc shaped finite earth. The only model I accept is infinite earth, because that earth does not have Medieval times edges of the earth from where ships fall off into the abyss. lol

I'm not a physicist, so I can't comment on the subject, but if infinite earth is indeed against the laws of physics and cannot exist, then I would have to say that Round Earth theory wins.

I disagree with John Davis that infinite earth is vertically finite. Infinite earth must be endless in all directions, not just horizontally. In that model the earth is the universe and like Thork said there should be no room for any other planets besides regional suns and regional moons.
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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2011, 05:47:30 PM »
I disagree with John Davis that infinite earth is vertically finite. Infinite earth must be endless in all directions, not just horizontally.

Justify this statement.

Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2011, 06:06:18 PM »
In Thork's map Australia is bigger then Europe and Asia combined. LOL Seriously dude, seriously.

I'm not a physicist so I can't give you scientific justification of why the infinite earth must also be infinite vertically, but simply in a pragmatic sense it is very unrealistic. Infinite earth must exist in its own universe, with nothing neighboring it, all other explanations and models are extremely fictional to my five senses. But to justify it giving mathematical formulas? Surely I'm not qualified. I studied Philosophy and Politics, not math or physics.
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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2011, 07:53:19 PM »
I'm not a physicist so I can't give you scientific justification of why the infinite earth must also be infinite vertically, but simply in a pragmatic sense it is very unrealistic. Infinite earth must exist in its own universe, with nothing neighboring it, all other explanations and models are extremely fictional to my five senses. But to justify it giving mathematical formulas? Surely I'm not qualified. I studied Philosophy and Politics, not math or physics.

You are contradicting yourself. You are asserting that Infinite Earth must expand it's entire universe, both vertically and horizontally. But then you also believe that there can still exist things above it, such as a sun or moon? Somehow nothing can neighbor the Earth, and yet other objects exist? If the Earth is infinite vertically, that nothing can exist above, or below it.

I seriously doubt you studied philosophy, because this is terrible logic.

I do however, believe that you did study politics.

Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2011, 08:54:45 PM »
I was just wondering why do so many RE people come to this forum and talk all that ish all the time with their stupid insults and empty challenges? Then something hit me, RE'rs are not sure themselves about the shape of our world, so they are intrigued by the flat earth theory. They are too proud to admit that flat earth makes perfect sense, so they come to this forum and talk garbage. Hey guys guess what? If you think FE is a dumb idea and that only idiots believe in it, guess what it makes you when you join this forum and reply in every thread?  ::)


Speaking only for myself, I heard a lecture dealing with how the evolution/creation debate is often perceived as an either/or dichotomy, when, in fact, it is a question of where along a continuum of ideas a person falls, with the two extremes being philosophical naturalism and flat earthers. Until then, I did not believe it possible that there were people in the United States in the 21st century that actually believe this tripe. Granted, there have always been, and always will be, a small number of hapless simpletons which will believe basically anything, no matter how whacky, if it's cloaked in a dialogue intended to make them feel like they are somehow part of a small cadre of the enlightened which have had their eyes opened to truth which few realize, but, the number of flat earthers was said to be in the hundreds, and it seemed impossible to me that there could be so many people afflicted with the starkest ignorance imaginable concerning so many different disciplines. I'm still not convinced that people professing this belief actually believe it, and I am nearly convinced that the people promulgating this belief definitely do not believe it themselves, but are merely charlatans of the same order as any carnival huckster found behind the pulpit in tent revivals, shamelessly taking advantage of witless fools.

Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2011, 11:36:04 PM »
I just don't get it? Why do you guys hate me? Why taking all those cheap shots?
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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2011, 11:45:56 PM »
I just don't get it? Why do you guys hate me? Why taking all those cheap shots?

I do not know. Rather than hating the player, I recommend that they instead should hate the game.
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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2011, 01:47:42 AM »
If the Earth is infinite vertically, that nothing can exist above, or below it.
Not true. You can have an infinite length (hypothetically) that has a end or a start to it, just study some Maths and it'll all become clear - or - admit you aren't sure of yourself and I'll give you a lending hand.

But this in no way suggests that an infinite Earth is possible because (for once I'm agreeing with this fella):

As for infinite earth, should I ever get admission into the FEB forum if it is opened up to more FErs, then this will be my first order of business. I find infinite earth the most un-Zetetic theory possible. I cannot think of a single example of anything I have ever observed that has been infinite. Infinity is a concept. Not reality. Nothing physical is infinite. As soon as anything becomes infinite, there is no space for anything else in the universe.
"Infinite Plain theory" is a sound bite. If the earth is infinite then it has infinite mass. Now you are screwed either way. Infinite mass means infinite gravity. Or infinite power required for acceleration. Both not possible.
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

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Re: Why do RE believers come here?
« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2011, 03:27:16 AM »
My track of mine was more or less:

- What the hell...? Let's see.
- Looks interesting, I may get something interesting, who knows.
- Blah! But still there are funny posts and you can debate something.

That's why I'm here.
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