The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2011, 07:07:04 PM »
You can't tell the difference between a "genuine" photo and a photo of a model?
« Last Edit: January 28, 2011, 08:37:17 PM by Ski »
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2011, 09:03:40 PM »

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2011, 01:23:48 PM »
You can't tell the difference between a "genuine" photo and a photo of a model?

I do not need to. The truth does not "tell the difference".

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2011, 01:57:48 PM »
The original picture is that of a model. Your readiness to accept it as a "genuine" NASA photo only proves how successful the globularist propaganda has become.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2011, 02:09:23 PM by Ski »
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2011, 02:14:34 PM »
The original picture is that of a model. Your readiness to accept it as a "genuine" NASA photo only proves how successful the globularist propaganda has become.

Actually, you presented it as a photo that you took, not NASA.
Here's one I took a few years ago:

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2011, 02:14:50 PM »
The original picture is that of a model. Your readiness to accept it as a "genuine" NASA photo only proves how successful the globularist propaganda has become.
Being a moderator, I would expect you yourself not to troll.

I suggest you grab a pair of binoculars and look out your backyard.

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/index.html

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2011, 02:41:05 PM »
Actually, you presented it as a photo that you took, not NASA.

The picture before I modified it was of a model which Crustinator has insisted was "genuine".

I don't have one. I altered this picture of a model a few years ago[/img]

No that is clearly a genuine picture unless you can post evidence of you altering it.
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2011, 02:56:37 PM »
The original picture is that of a model. Your readiness to accept it as a "genuine" NASA photo only proves how successful the globularist propaganda has become.
Being a moderator, I would expect you yourself not to troll.

Pointing out the public's over-reaching desire to embrace space photos as genuine is not trolling. It is only further evidence that "proof" offered at the altar of science need not be compelling to be swallowed wholesale by people eager to believe it.
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2011, 03:05:56 PM »
Well done Ski. I think you've more than proved your point. If they don't see it, I can only classify it as straight-out denial.
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2011, 03:31:52 PM »
Well done Ski. I think you've more than proved your point. If they don't see it, I can only classify it as straight-out denial.

Almost like the straight-out denial that FEs have about satellites and their absolute unwillingness to use Heavens Above to observe satellites passing over their location.

All he showed is that models can be photographed in such a way as to make them look real, which is hardly a new revelation. He did nothing to prove that the photographs of the ISS taken by numerous amateur astronomers are fake. And if you can't see that, well...I can only classify it as straight-out stupidity.
How dare you have the audacity to demand my deposition. I've never even heard of you.

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2011, 03:38:34 PM »

All he showed is that models can be photographed in such a way as to make them look real, which is hardly a new revelation.


Which was what he set out to show.

Well played, Ski.

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2011, 03:42:48 PM »

All he showed is that models can be photographed in such a way as to make them look real, which is hardly a new revelation.


Which was what he set out to show.

Well played, Ski.

He never showed that the ISS photographs taken by amateur astronomers were faked, nor has he caused any reasonable doubt to be introduced.

Well played my ass, Sky.
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2011, 03:46:18 PM »
Ski demonstrated his point well. It was very well played. Don't be bitter and pout because he didn't support every single point possibly relevant to the topic.
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2011, 03:46:55 PM »
Just because you have lost the sacred ability to doubt, do not cast aspersion on those who can.
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2011, 03:50:22 PM »
Just because you have lost the sacred ability to doubt, do not cast aspersion on those who can.

There is a vast difference between having an open mind and letting your brain flow out completely.
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2011, 03:52:29 PM »
You'd go to Loch Ness and 'see' a monster.

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2011, 04:03:13 PM »
If any FE'er would just spend 100$ on a proper telescope and observe the sky for a night, trying to trace the trajectories of those hundreds of obviously fake satellites and the ISS, I wonder what they'd find?

Has anybody tried yet?

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2011, 04:04:30 PM »
So if I go outside tonight with my telescope, I will see satellites?
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2011, 04:12:12 PM »
Go look up the NASA site that was linked and find the supposed trajectory of the ISS. Align your telescope properly and try to find the ISS where they say it should be, document your findings (write positions you point your telescope at down and such), take pictures, and post up your findings here. I am curious to see the result.

I would try this, but I don't have a telescope, can't really afford one and if I did find one post pictures with it, you'd claim they were faked. This is the only way to find out!

(Note, documenting it in high detail is very necessary, or we would just be able to claim that you weren't looking the right place!)

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2011, 04:17:53 PM »
I would try this, but I don't have a telescope, can't really afford one and if I did find one post pictures with it, you'd claim they were faked. This is the only way to find out!

I would try this, but I don't have a telescope, can't really afford one, and if I did you'd claim I was not look in the right place.  I do know that I tried to locate the last transit by the shuttle and ISS in my area which was supposed to be visible to the naked eye, but saw nothing.
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2011, 04:22:03 PM »
I would try this, but I don't have a telescope, can't really afford one and if I did find one post pictures with it, you'd claim they were faked. This is the only way to find out!

I would try this, but I don't have a telescope, can't really afford one, and if I did you'd claim I was not look in the right place.  I do know that I tried to locate the last transit by the shuttle and ISS in my area which was supposed to be visible to the naked eye, but saw nothing.

(Note, documenting it in high detail is very necessary, or we would just be able to claim that you weren't looking the right place!)

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2011, 04:22:49 PM »
Go look up the NASA site that was linked and find the supposed trajectory of the ISS. Align your telescope properly and try to find the ISS where they say it should be, document your findings (write positions you point your telescope at down and such), take pictures, and post up your findings here. I am curious to see the result.

I would try this, but I don't have a telescope, can't really afford one and if I did find one post pictures with it, you'd claim they were faked. This is the only way to find out!

(Note, documenting it in high detail is very necessary, or we would just be able to claim that you weren't looking the right place!)
I'm looking up at the skies of Illinois and fail to see a single satellite.
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2011, 04:23:53 PM »
Where is your documentation? Pictures, time-stamps, degrees of elevation and NSEW coords?

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2011, 04:25:47 PM »
Perhaps the weather will improve later. For now I see no satellites.
http://www.weather.com/weather/today/Chicago+IL+USIL0225
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #54 on: February 01, 2011, 04:36:34 PM »
Ah, yes, that would be a problem :)

Well then, let's leave it till later then. There's no hurry.

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #55 on: February 01, 2011, 07:45:54 PM »
Actually, you presented it as a photo that you took, not NASA.

The picture before I modified it was of a model which Crustinator has insisted was "genuine".

Irrelevant.  You claimed that you were the source of the photo, not NASA or Crustinator.
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #56 on: February 01, 2011, 07:49:16 PM »
My understanding is that he thinks (thought?) the unmodified photo was that of an actual "space craft".
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2011, 07:52:39 PM »
All you need to know about Crusty, Ski, is that he likes to be sarcastic.  He was messing around.  :P
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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2011, 07:52:50 PM »
The original picture is that of a model. Your readiness to accept it as a "genuine" NASA photo only proves how successful the globularist propaganda has become.
Being a moderator, I would expect you yourself not to troll.

Pointing out the public's over-reaching desire to embrace space photos as genuine is not trolling.
Shocking, you don't even seem to realise your own trolling.

Anyone can take a photograph of the ISS. Have you not read my posts?

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Re: The ISS as seen from earth with a Telescope
« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2011, 07:53:42 PM »
The original picture is that of a model. Your readiness to accept it as a "genuine" NASA photo only proves how successful the globularist propaganda has become.
Being a moderator, I would expect you yourself not to troll.

Pointing out the public's over-reaching desire to embrace space photos as genuine is not trolling.
Shocking, you don't even seem to realise your own trolling.

Anyone can take a photograph of the ISS. Have you not read my posts?
As evidenced by Ski
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