A universal problem with UA

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doyh

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A universal problem with UA
« on: January 18, 2011, 12:38:25 PM »
If everything is moving up, then why are other planets circular? It would seem that if a planet has UA and normal gravity at the same time, it would end up looking like a football.
If we would all stop deflecting questions, maybe we could get somewhere.

Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2011, 04:16:29 PM »
There are no other planets, they are all cardboard cutouts hanging on string from....er....big poles so the Earth doesn't accelerate up into them. They don't gravitationally collapse into spheres cos there is no gravity in FET

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 06:34:51 PM »
Well it's still not really understood (or explained, rather) by Flat Earthers exactly how dark energy would be so focused that it pushes us up. I imagine they can't explain other things about that either.

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EnglshGentleman

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2011, 06:36:03 PM »
It would seem that if a planet has UA and normal gravity at the same time, it would end up looking like a football.

Justify this statement.

Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2011, 06:38:45 PM »
I also wonder just how fast we're all going if we've been accelerating this whole time.

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IOA

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2011, 06:39:25 PM »
Let's say the planets were forming into balls like they should, with gravity, before Universal Acceleration kicked in. Still malleable, imagine a force pushing that mass up. The planets would look much differently than they do now; not nearly as sphere-shaped as they appear to us. The moon looks like a pretty round object, don't you think? Besides, isn't this the argument for how the Earth was squished into a disc?

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2011, 06:43:09 PM »
Let's say the planets were forming into balls like they should, with gravity, before Universal Acceleration kicked in. Still malleable, imagine a force pushing that mass up. The planets would look much differently than they do now; not nearly as sphere-shaped as they appear to us. The moon looks like a pretty round object, don't you think?

Because UA must compress objects to move them?  ???

Besides, isn't this the argument for how the Earth was squished into a disc?

No.

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2011, 06:46:29 PM »
Because UA must compress objects to move them?  ???
...Actually, yes. Third law of motion. The energy doesn't just disappear. Thrust a slab of jello upwards on your hand for an example of this compression effect.
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Besides, isn't this the argument for how the Earth was squished into a disc?
No.
Well I guess I'm mistaken. How do you suppose it formed as a disc then?

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EnglshGentleman

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2011, 06:52:00 PM »
Because UA must compress objects to move them?  ???
...Actually, yes. Third law of motion. The energy doesn't just disappear. Thrust a slab of jello upwards on your hand for an example of this compression effect.

UA requires no output of energy to move things just as Gravity does not.

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2011, 07:01:09 PM »
The third law of motion follows for gravity. Why shouldn't it for UA?

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doyh

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2011, 07:17:26 PM »
EG, you're arguing with yourself.
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EnglshGentleman

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2011, 10:12:31 PM »
The third law of motion follows for gravity.

Do explain this. What, are there infinite amounts of equal and opposite reacts occurring between the two objects?

Besides, UA is a force, so there is no reason why it should even need to follow the laws of motion.

This is no different than when RE'ers say that nothing can move faster than the speed of light, except for space, but that is only because space isn't actually matter.

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2011, 10:18:04 PM »
Quote from: EnglshGentleman
Besides, isn't this the argument for how the Earth was squished into a disc?
No.
Well I guess I'm mistaken. How do you suppose it formed as a disc then?
I'm still interested in the answer to this.
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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2011, 10:48:51 PM »
Because UA must compress objects to move them?  ???
...Actually, yes. Third law of motion. The energy doesn't just disappear. Thrust a slab of jello upwards on your hand for an example of this compression effect.

UA requires no output of energy to move things just as Gravity does not.

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2011, 11:25:34 PM »
Why do all round earther's have such a problem with the idea of an ever accelerating earth?  They believe without question that the universe is accelerating as it is expanding. 

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2011, 11:49:11 PM »
They believe without question that the universe is accelerating as it is expanding. 

Incorrect, in more ways than one.
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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2011, 12:23:22 AM »

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2011, 03:26:14 AM »
The third law of motion follows for gravity.

Do explain this. What, are there infinite amounts of equal and opposite reacts occurring between the two objects?
Well, get two cylindrical (no coincidence intended) neodymium magnets and place one on a desk. Then, place the other on top if it such that it repels the other and stays floating. Gravity is actually providing the force to keep it afloat.

If that's not really a good example, the gravity keeping you against the Earth exhibits a force on the ground underneath you, which in turn exhibits a force against your feet, keeping you relatively stable on ground.

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2011, 04:34:57 AM »
If everything is moving up, then why are other planets circular? It would seem that if a planet has UA and normal gravity at the same time, it would end up looking like a football.


the earth is not a planet in the FET model. and you say circular so does that man that u think all planets are flat and facing towards us?!?!?

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doyh

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2011, 04:37:05 PM »
I meant spherical. And EG: TB said that UA is responsible for the diskiness of the Earth.
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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2011, 05:31:27 PM »
The third law of motion follows for gravity.

Do explain this. What, are there infinite amounts of equal and opposite reacts occurring between the two objects?
By the law of gravity, the Earth exerts the same gravitational force on the Moon as the Moon exerts on Earth. Same thing between the Sun and the Earth, and you and me.  It's like this between any two masses.

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2011, 06:43:03 PM »
The third law of motion follows for gravity.

Do explain this. What, are there infinite amounts of equal and opposite reacts occurring between the two objects?
By the law of gravity, the Earth exerts the same gravitational force on the Moon as the Moon exerts on Earth. Same thing between the Sun and the Earth, and you and me.  It's like this between any two masses.

So you are saying that a banana will exert the same gravitational force on a black hole that the black hole exerts of the banana?

All the sudden the banana out of nowhere gains extreme gravitational strength?

RET is getting crazier by the moment.

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doyh

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2011, 06:48:26 PM »
The third law of motion follows for gravity.

Do explain this. What, are there infinite amounts of equal and opposite reacts occurring between the two objects?
By the law of gravity, the Earth exerts the same gravitational force on the Moon as the Moon exerts on Earth. Same thing between the Sun and the Earth, and you and me.  It's like this between any two masses.

So you are saying that a banana will exert the same gravitational force on a black hole that the black hole exerts of the banana?

All the sudden the banana out of nowhere gains extreme gravitational strength?

RET is getting crazier by the moment.

No, you are simply failing to understand the concepts that you "disprove".
If we would all stop deflecting questions, maybe we could get somewhere.

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Nolhekh

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2011, 07:14:42 PM »
The third law of motion follows for gravity.

Do explain this. What, are there infinite amounts of equal and opposite reacts occurring between the two objects?
By the law of gravity, the Earth exerts the same gravitational force on the Moon as the Moon exerts on Earth. Same thing between the Sun and the Earth, and you and me.  It's like this between any two masses.

So you are saying that a banana will exert the same gravitational force on a black hole that the black hole exerts of the banana?

All the sudden the banana out of nowhere gains extreme gravitational strength?

RET is getting crazier by the moment.
Physics comprehension FAIL

Not gravitational strength, gravitational force.  Take for example, me and the earth.  Earth's gravity field strength at sea level is about 9.8kg/N.  I have a mass of 60kg, therefore the earth exerts a gravitational force of 588.6 Newtons on me.  Newtons 3rd law demands that an equal and opposite force exist, so therefore I exert a gravitational force of 588.6 Newtons on the earth.  The earth has a mass of 5.97361024 kg.  the equation force=mass*acceleration can be used to calculate the acceleration the earth would experience under my influence of gravity.  This acceleration is 9.9 x 10-23 m/s/s or should I simplify 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg for the earth's mass, and 0.000000000000000000000099m/s/s for the earth's acceleration under my influence of gravity for those who are confused by scientific notation.  And voila.  Newton's third law applies to gravity without any absurd notions such as bananas having black-hole strength gravity.  RET is not as crazy as you make it out to be.

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doyh

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Re: A universal problem with UA
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2011, 04:00:20 PM »
And if gravity doesn't exist, what keeps the moon shrimp on the moon?
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