I've looked up some of the anti-vac vids after reading this topic, and it makes me fucking furious. I've gotten over a lot of the religious nonsense that comes up in debates, and really don't get too hot about it anymore, but this shit is ridiculous. I think what makes it worse is that they're almost always dumb, self-righteous, penguiny women that refuse to be rational. I can understand knowing the existence of a god in your heart, I can see how that can happen, but you can't know a scientifically determinable fact in your heart.