That information is usually on the security strip and this attempt was made on-line. The only place I had used the new card was a very well-know digital satellite television company. It was New Year's Eve and I had had a little bubbly when I stupidly decided to change my card number for the auto-pay over the phone to a real person instead of using a secure web page. That company, of course, has all the information needed at their fingertips. D-U-M-B.