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Question for Flat Earth Believers
« on: December 29, 2010, 12:46:04 PM »
Ok I'm a little confused. Mr Davis thinks that the earth is infinite plane, does it mean he believes that the earth extends forever in all directions? Basically does he believe that you can travel for trillions of miles and never reach the end?
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2010, 12:48:20 PM »
I think infinite plane didn't strictly mean 'infinite', just that the Earth goes on for a great distance beyond antarctica.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 12:52:58 PM »
My understanding is that Mr. Davis means infinite.  I am, though, prone to misunderstanding these kinds of things.  It might be best to refer to Mr. Davis.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 01:05:23 PM »
Quote from: New Earth on December 29, 2010, 12:46:04 PM
Ok I'm a little confused. Mr Davis thinks that the earth is infinite plane, does it mean he believes that the earth extends forever in all directions? Basically does he believe that you can travel for trillions of miles and never reach the end?

I think yes, that's what he believes.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 01:17:31 PM »
If Davis Model is true this would mean that there is really no such thing as north and south, because an infinite world has no equator or any kind of center. I'm very interested in this model thou, how do I contact Mr Davis?
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 01:21:38 PM »
The usual procedure would be to patiently wait until he answers your post.  You might also use the advanced search option to read his previous posts on the question.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2010, 01:30:46 PM »
Do you believe MRS Peach that the earth extends forever in all directions? Imagine how many paradise lands the conspirators might be hiding from us. lol
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2010, 01:40:24 PM »
I think Mr. Davis' model is intriguing and deserves our every consideration.  Your imagined paradises would be cold in the extreme in Mr. Davis' model as I understand it, hellishly cold.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2010, 01:47:47 PM »
Yes thats why we need New Earth where the entire infinite plane is paradise. lol Imagine the theme parks 100 times larger then Disney. One thing is for sure, an infinite plane earth will eliminate all worries of shortages. Problem is thou, that the distance between countries and cities in such world will be immense, sometimes millions of miles. So we will need warmhole technology to travel quickly between vast distances of the new infinite earth plane.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2010, 02:28:31 PM »
Quote from: Vindictus on December 29, 2010, 12:48:20 PM
I think infinite plane didn't strictly mean 'infinite', just that the Earth goes on for a great distance beyond antarctica.

This is correct.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 02:47:24 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 29, 2010, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Vindictus on December 29, 2010, 12:48:20 PM
I think infinite plane didn't strictly mean 'infinite', just that the Earth goes on for a great distance beyond antarctica.

This is correct.
Do you mean this is what your believe or this is what Davis believes?  All his posts that I've read lead me to believe that he thinks the Earth is literally infinite.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2010, 02:50:13 PM »
Tom Bishop, what do you think is south of Antarctica? What kind of continents?
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2010, 03:28:21 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 29, 2010, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Vindictus on December 29, 2010, 12:48:20 PM
I think infinite plane didn't strictly mean 'infinite', just that the Earth goes on for a great distance beyond antarctica.

This is correct.

Then someone does not understand the concept of infinity.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2010, 03:39:50 PM »
Quote from: markjo on December 29, 2010, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 29, 2010, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Vindictus on December 29, 2010, 12:48:20 PM
I think infinite plane didn't strictly mean 'infinite', just that the Earth goes on for a great distance beyond antarctica.

This is correct.

Then someone does not understand the concept of infinity.

Now it can be understood why my request that Bishop not post in the other thread was not an ad hominem, but an act of mercy to the rest of us.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2010, 01:40:42 PM »
Quote from: Part of the Problem on December 29, 2010, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 29, 2010, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Vindictus on December 29, 2010, 12:48:20 PM
I think infinite plane didn't strictly mean 'infinite', just that the Earth goes on for a great distance beyond antarctica.

This is correct.
Do you mean this is what your believe or this is what Davis believes?

It's what I believe, and what I meant when I coined the term "infinite plane" several years ago.

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Then someone does not understand the concept of infinity.

Do you agree with the statement that "man's capacity for imagination is infinite"?

Many people would agree with that statement.

But in reality, man's capacity for imaginiation may or may not be infinite. In this example "infinite" is an abstract term which means "to the capacity of understanding" and has no physical value.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2010, 04:53:19 PM by Tom Bishop »
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2010, 02:18:54 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 30, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: Part of the Problem on December 29, 2010, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 29, 2010, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Vindictus on December 29, 2010, 12:48:20 PM
I think infinite plane didn't strictly mean 'infinite', just that the Earth goes on for a great distance beyond antarctica.

This is correct.
Do you mean this is what your believe or this is what Davis believes?

It's what I believe, and what I meant when I coined the term "infinite plane" several years ago.

So, it's not necessarily what Davis means when he says "infinite plane", which is what the OP asked.  Just wanted to clarify.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2010, 02:54:00 PM »
Mr. Davis's mathematical proofs demand a truly infinite plane, and not an allegorical one.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2010, 04:00:17 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 30, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Do you agree with the statement that "man's capacity for imagination is infinite?"

Many people would agree with that statement.

But in reality, man's capacity for imaginiation may or may not be infinite. In this example "infinite" is an abstract term which means "to the capacity of understanding" and has no physical value.

Are you saying that your "infinite plane" has is an abstract term with no physical value?
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2010, 04:52:28 PM »
Quote from: markjo on December 30, 2010, 04:00:17 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 30, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Do you agree with the statement that "man's capacity for imagination is infinite?"

Many people would agree with that statement.

But in reality, man's capacity for imaginiation may or may not be infinite. In this example "infinite" is an abstract term which means "to the capacity of understanding" and has no physical value.

Are you saying that your "infinite plane" has is an abstract term with no physical value?

What is the value of "infinite"?
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2010, 05:14:15 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 30, 2010, 04:52:28 PM
Quote from: markjo on December 30, 2010, 04:00:17 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 30, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Do you agree with the statement that "man's capacity for imagination is infinite?"

Many people would agree with that statement.

But in reality, man's capacity for imaginiation may or may not be infinite. In this example "infinite" is an abstract term which means "to the capacity of understanding" and has no physical value.

Are you saying that your "infinite plane" has is an abstract term with no physical value?

What is the value of "infinite"?

I'll give you 50 quid.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2010, 05:27:30 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 30, 2010, 04:52:28 PM
Quote from: markjo on December 30, 2010, 04:00:17 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 30, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Do you agree with the statement that "man's capacity for imagination is infinite?"

Many people would agree with that statement.

But in reality, man's capacity for imaginiation may or may not be infinite. In this example "infinite" is an abstract term which means "to the capacity of understanding" and has no physical value.

Are you saying that your "infinite plane" has is an abstract term with no physical value?

What is the value of "infinite"?

You tell me.  You're the one that thinks that it applies to the size of the flat earth.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2011, 04:42:10 PM »
Quote from: markjo on December 30, 2010, 05:27:30 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 30, 2010, 04:52:28 PM
Quote from: markjo on December 30, 2010, 04:00:17 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 30, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Do you agree with the statement that "man's capacity for imagination is infinite?"

Many people would agree with that statement.

But in reality, man's capacity for imaginiation may or may not be infinite. In this example "infinite" is an abstract term which means "to the capacity of understanding" and has no physical value.

Are you saying that your "infinite plane" has is an abstract term with no physical value?

What is the value of "infinite"?

You tell me.  You're the one that thinks that it applies to the size of the flat earth.

I didn't claim the earth's size had a physical value. I described the earth as being an infinite plane. It's infinite in the sense that its value is beyond human comprehension and unknown.

"Beyond comprehension and unknown" is the value of infinity.

If you believe that this is not the definition of "infinity" please enlighten us.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2011, 04:58:48 PM »
The earth travels on indefinitely.  You can travel along it and never reach an edge. 

You can contact me via private message here.  From there I can give you an email.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2011, 06:09:21 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 05, 2011, 04:42:10 PM
I didn't claim the earth's size had a physical value. I described the earth as being an infinite plane. It's infinite in the sense that its value is beyond human comprehension and unknown.

"Beyond comprehension and unknown" is the value of infinity.

Then perhaps you should use a qualifier such as "essentially" or "nigh" when you use the term "infinite plane" in order to avoid confusion.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2011, 06:12:05 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 05, 2011, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: markjo on December 30, 2010, 05:27:30 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 30, 2010, 04:52:28 PM
Quote from: markjo on December 30, 2010, 04:00:17 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 30, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Do you agree with the statement that "man's capacity for imagination is infinite?"

Many people would agree with that statement.

But in reality, man's capacity for imaginiation may or may not be infinite. In this example "infinite" is an abstract term which means "to the capacity of understanding" and has no physical value.

Are you saying that your "infinite plane" has is an abstract term with no physical value?

What is the value of "infinite"?

You tell me.  You're the one that thinks that it applies to the size of the flat earth.

I didn't claim the earth's size had a physical value. I described the earth as being an infinite plane. It's infinite in the sense that its value is beyond human comprehension and unknown.

"Beyond comprehension and unknown" is the value of infinity.

If you believe that this is not the definition of "infinity" please enlighten us.

Infinity (often symbolically represented by ?) is a concept in many fields, most predominantly mathematics and physics, that refers to a quantity without bound or end.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2011, 02:59:07 PM »
Quote from: markjo on January 05, 2011, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 05, 2011, 04:42:10 PM
I didn't claim the earth's size had a physical value. I described the earth as being an infinite plane. It's infinite in the sense that its value is beyond human comprehension and unknown.

"Beyond comprehension and unknown" is the value of infinity.

Then perhaps you should use a qualifier such as "essentially" or "nigh" when you use the term "infinite plane" in order to avoid confusion.

"Nigh infinite plane" doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2011, 04:30:04 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 09, 2011, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: markjo on January 05, 2011, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 05, 2011, 04:42:10 PM
I didn't claim the earth's size had a physical value. I described the earth as being an infinite plane. It's infinite in the sense that its value is beyond human comprehension and unknown.

"Beyond comprehension and unknown" is the value of infinity.

Then perhaps you should use a qualifier such as "essentially" or "nigh" when you use the term "infinite plane" in order to avoid confusion.

"Nigh infinite plane" doesn't have the same ring to it.

Which is more important, the ring of a phrase or it's accuracy?
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2011, 05:46:20 PM »
Quote from: markjo on January 09, 2011, 04:30:04 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 09, 2011, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: markjo on January 05, 2011, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 05, 2011, 04:42:10 PM
I didn't claim the earth's size had a physical value. I described the earth as being an infinite plane. It's infinite in the sense that its value is beyond human comprehension and unknown.

"Beyond comprehension and unknown" is the value of infinity.

Then perhaps you should use a qualifier such as "essentially" or "nigh" when you use the term "infinite plane" in order to avoid confusion.

"Nigh infinite plane" doesn't have the same ring to it.

Which is more important, the ring of a phrase or it's accuracy?

The ring of the phrase.

It's not possible to have an accurate value for "infinity".
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Re: Question for Flat Earth Believers
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2011, 05:52:35 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 09, 2011, 05:46:20 PM
Quote from: markjo on January 09, 2011, 04:30:04 PM
Which is more important, the ring of a phrase or it's accuracy?

The ring of the phrase.

Thanks for answering a lot of questions about FET.
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