Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.

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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2010, 01:45:23 PM »
Just have a look at these screens, both taken at the same objective zoom:



Oh, so 1000km is approximately the same as 200km in different places. How very peculiar. As you can see, it's the RE model that's inconsistent, not only with reality, but even with itself!
A round Earth is a geographical impossibility. That is all.

 Ok, when you take the surface of a sphere, pick two spots on opposite sides of the sphere as the poles, make a cut from one to the other, peel it off, and then try to lay it out flat, the equator will be the only part not stretched.  The poles will be stretched out the most.  Everything in between will be stretched farther and farther the closer it is to the top and bottom of this distorted image.

Now lets go to google maps (I prefer google earth when I look at the earth, not google maps) and look at the scale.  1000km at the equator.  Ok, now pan north or south keeping the zoom the same.  The scale is now changing to compensate for the stretching of the latitude (longitude lines are being spread out until they run parellel) and the measured distance along lines of latitude become less unless you zoom out, because what happens when you stretch a picture?  You're basically zooming in.

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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2010, 01:51:45 PM »
If you're saying that, the change is actually proof of round earth. It shows that the flat diagram is distorted, consistent with RET
You're right. If I'm saying that, it is so, indeed. Hint: I am not saying that.

then, if you look at it, it shows that light shines everywhere at once.
No.

the rest of the posts are without evidence.
I agree, your claims are completely unsupported.

You're basically zooming in.
No, I'm not. Perhaps you are, but that's your problem, not mine.
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2010, 02:49:31 PM »

You're basically zooming in.
No, I'm not. Perhaps you are, but that's your problem, not mine.
Yes, you are.

Put a map or satellite photo...oh wait, aerial photo (I forgot FE'rs don't believe in satellites) with a distance scale on something stretchable, and then stretch it.  The image becomes bigger, and the distance you're looking at in a fixed viewing area becomes less as the scale itself becomes bigger.  (this is what's happening on google maps the closer you get to the poles from the equator)

Now take that same image, and zoom in.  The image becomes bigger, and the distance you're looking at in a fixed viewing area becomes less as the scale itself becomes bigger.

Yes, I already saw it for myself on google maps panning north or south from the equator without touching the zoom adjustment.

Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2010, 02:52:50 PM »
what's funny about bendy light is that it actually makes sense given two things- nubmer one, it refracts the opposite way people say it does- and number two-  light has mass and is effected by gravity. XD


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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2010, 04:26:57 PM »
Yes, you are.
No, I'm not.

what's funny about bendy light is that it actually makes sense given two things- nubmer one, it refracts the opposite way people say it does- and number two-  light has mass and is effected by gravity. XD
Why would it refract the opposite way? That would make no sense.
Also, light does get affected by "gravity". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lensing
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2010, 04:34:39 PM »
Yes, you are.
No, I'm not.

what's funny about bendy light is that it actually makes sense given two things- nubmer one, it refracts the opposite way people say it does- and number two-  light has mass and is effected by gravity. XD
Why would it refract the opposite way? That would make no sense.
Also, light does get affected by "gravity". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lensing

because if it refracts the way people on this site have explained it, it would appear that the flat earth was a bowl. you would be able to see any point within it from any other point.


and yes, but i mean that it would accelerate downward at roughly 10m/s/s like physical objects. rather then the pretty much neglible effects it normally has

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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2010, 04:39:23 PM »
Yes, you are.
No, I'm not.

what's funny about bendy light is that it actually makes sense given two things- nubmer one, it refracts the opposite way people say it does- and number two-  light has mass and is effected by gravity. XD
Why would it refract the opposite way? That would make no sense.
Also, light does get affected by "gravity". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lensing

because if it refracts the way people on this site have explained it, it would appear that the flat earth was a bowl. you would be able to see any point within it from any other point.


and yes, but i mean that it would accelerate downward at roughly 10m/s/s like physical objects. rather then the pretty much neglible effects it normally has
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2010, 05:32:20 PM »
the usefulness and accuracy of setting circles

This is the unsupported portion of your argument.
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2010, 06:03:42 PM »
All that awaits is for someone to prove Bendy Light! I eagerly await reading your submission to the Nobel commmitee!
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2010, 09:25:05 PM »
http://www.astronomyknowhow.com/setting-circles.htm

Ninian shows you. He knows what hes talking about.
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2010, 11:01:58 PM »
http://www.astronomyknowhow.com/setting-circles.htm

Ninian shows you. He knows what hes talking about.

I do not have Windows Media Player, so I cannot launch it to watch the video.
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2010, 11:56:37 PM »
http://www.astronomyknowhow.com/setting-circles.htm

Ninian shows you. He knows what hes talking about.

I do not have Windows Media Player, so I cannot launch it to watch the video.

Well sadly then you have reached the status of "acknowledges proof is available but chooses not to witness it".
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2010, 08:41:18 AM »
I'll show you proof of the opposite. It exists*, but I'll only show it to you after you pay me $100
*-or does it? Only one way to find out.
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2010, 08:44:03 AM »
I'll show you proof of the opposite. It exists*, but I'll only show it to you after you pay me $100
*-or does it? Only one way to find out.

Lrn2 comparable example. Use a metaphor that does not cost money or detriment the user.
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2010, 08:47:21 AM »
Oh, so Windows doesn't cost money. I see.
TD, could I ask you to not trash my thread with shit you haven't thought through? Thank you.
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2010, 07:27:26 PM »
Oh, so Windows doesn't cost money. I see.
TD, could I ask you to not trash my thread with shit you haven't thought through? Thank you.

Windows media player files are able to be read with freely available software from sources other than Microsoft. As Parsifal knows only too well, but which would be inconvenient for him to mention in this context. He might like to try Miro since it's open source and non-profit.
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #46 on: December 27, 2010, 07:30:48 PM »
http://www.astronomyknowhow.com/setting-circles.htm

Ninian shows you. He knows what hes talking about.

I do not have Windows Media Player, so I cannot launch it to watch the video.
Troll "Bendy light specialist" is troll.

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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #47 on: December 27, 2010, 07:34:31 PM »
the usefulness and accuracy of setting circles

This is the unsupported portion of your argument.

BTW, esteemed Brother Mad James claims to have a high powered astronomical telescope, which is likely to be equipped with setting circles. Ask him nicely and he can verify that they do indeed work. As can I, for I too have one. However that would be a problem for you, because it wouldn't give you the answer you want, so your response will be to say the word of other people cannot be trusted. (In which case, never get on a bus or a train again, because you only have somebody's word that it's going where they say it is.) In summary: either take my word for it, or never travel by public transport again.
Additional: there are almost certainly amateur astronomy clubs in your vicinity, who will be able to give you a FREE personal demonstration of setting circles.
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2010, 07:41:45 PM »
I do not have Windows Media Player, so I cannot launch it to watch the video.
Troll "Bendy light specialist" is troll.

What could have possibly prompted that assumption?

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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2010, 07:49:04 PM »
I do not have Windows Media Player, so I cannot launch it to watch the video.
Troll "Bendy light specialist" is troll.

What could have possibly prompted that assumption?

Having read more than three posts by Parsifal is enough, turning it from assumption to verified fact based on statistical data.
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #50 on: December 27, 2010, 08:15:02 PM »
Statistically speaking, three out of four Earths are flat.
Also, I love it how no one addresses my diagram anymore. Another victory for FET!
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #51 on: December 27, 2010, 09:05:28 PM »
Unfortunately, your diagram is irrelevant because Universal Acceleration doesn't cover every effect of gravity, rendering it a useless method for explaining regular occurrences on a flat Earth, and thus rendering your diagram useless.

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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #52 on: December 27, 2010, 09:35:25 PM »
BTW, esteemed Brother Mad James claims to have a high powered astronomical telescope, which is likely to be equipped with setting circles. Ask him nicely and he can verify that they do indeed work. As can I, for I too have one.

How did you verify that they work?
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #53 on: December 27, 2010, 10:02:40 PM »
Unfortunately, your diagram is irrelevant because Universal Acceleration doesn't cover every effect of gravity, rendering it a useless method for explaining regular occurrences on a flat Earth, and thus rendering your diagram useless.
And where exactly does UA come into this?
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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #54 on: December 27, 2010, 10:55:07 PM »
I cannot help but notice that no one has yet proved the existence of "bendy light".
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« Reply #55 on: December 28, 2010, 12:02:20 AM »
Statistically speaking, three out of four Earths are flat.
Also, I love it how no one addresses my diagram anymore. Another victory for FET!
Statistically speaking, the idiots that use statistics without understanding what statistics is tend to be non-scientists.

The argument made here has no value as a statistical analysis whatsoever.

Nobody addresses the diagram because there is nothing in it, just the same old bendy light argument that has been disproved so many times. Make some predictions based on "bendy light" and then there will be a reason to address your concerns.

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« Reply #56 on: December 28, 2010, 12:13:54 AM »
BTW, esteemed Brother Mad James claims to have a high powered astronomical telescope, which is likely to be equipped with setting circles. Ask him nicely and he can verify that they do indeed work. As can I, for I too have one.

How did you verify that they work?
This is the typical argument of someone who has never used a telescope with an equatorial mount. If you set your mount correctly you will be able to track a star or nebula, for example, almost from the horizon at the East to the horizon at the West of your location, all through the night.

All flat Earth models discussed in this forum fail to predict this very precise path of the stars, which can be tracked with a telescope with a rather simple mount. If the few remaining flat earthers all decided to buy a telescope with an equatorial mount and learned to use it correctly, the whole FES would disappear.

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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2010, 02:07:35 AM »
This is the typical argument of someone who has never used a telescope with an equatorial mount.

What argument? I only asked a question.
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« Reply #58 on: December 28, 2010, 03:55:52 AM »
This is the typical argument of someone who has never used a telescope with an equatorial mount.

What argument? I only asked a question.
So now you have your answer. The very fact that stars can be traced with an accuracy of well under 1 degree in both azimuth and right ascension through the correct use of an equatorial mount totally demolishes every FE "theory" in this forum.


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Re: Distances on RE and FE consistent thanks to bendy light.
« Reply #59 on: December 28, 2010, 04:06:08 AM »
BTW, esteemed Brother Mad James claims to have a high powered astronomical telescope, which is likely to be equipped with setting circles. Ask him nicely and he can verify that they do indeed work. As can I, for I too have one.

How did you verify that they work?

By using them, of course. They gave me the result that it was predicted they should give me: therefore, they work.
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