Tectonic Plates

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Tectonic Plates
« on: December 15, 2010, 01:48:10 PM »
Just a lurker here with a nagging question.  What do the FE'rs think about tectonic plates, and more specifically, the fact that seismographs can detect earthquakes at different points of the round earth model.

This picture sums it up nicely




If the earth was flat then this entire occurrence would be rather strange, as it would then be random points of the earth being affected by the seismic waves.

Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 03:38:04 PM »
Three words: expanding earth theory.  ;)

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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 04:22:23 PM »
Three words: expanding earth theory.  ;)
And an explanation of the wild new physics? A theory is a belief is there is not sufficient  evidence to support it.

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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 05:05:21 PM »

The truth is scientists predict the density of the layers based on the seismographic evidence, not the other way around. They say "there must be a fluid layer here reflecting these waves" to make the data fit the RE model. Not the other way around.

It would be entirely possible to create a FE model for seismic wave propagation. In fact, the military uses a FE model as well as a more publicized RE model.

In addition to making assumptions about the density and composition of the earth's core despite barely having scratched it, they come up with nifty things like anistropic wave propagation to make the data fit the model -- again, not the other way around.
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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 06:07:23 PM »
That doesn't explain how seismographs can read earthquakes from various points on earth. Lets say there's an EQ in Brazil.  Seismographs would pick it up in Canada and Antarctica, making the earthquake range an awkward polygon.

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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 11:10:53 AM »
Why wouldn't they be read from various points on the earth?
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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 02:42:01 PM »
Why wouldn't they be read from various points on the earth?

I think the point is a FE would have considerable trouble explaining the S wave Shadow zone, explained easily by RET.

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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2010, 07:34:37 PM »
Why wouldn't they be read from various points on the earth?

I think the point he is a FE would have considerable trouble explaining the S wave Shadow zone, explained easily by RET.

Yeah this.  An EQ in brazil would be felt more in india than in russia with the RE model, which is illogical when looking at the FE.

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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2010, 06:40:14 AM »
Why wouldn't they be read from various points on the earth?

I think the point he is a FE would have considerable trouble explaining the S wave Shadow zone, explained easily by RET.

Yeah this.  An EQ in brazil would be felt more in india than in russia with the RE model, which is illogical when looking at the FE.

That just about explains any FE comment.
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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2010, 08:30:14 PM »
I'm not familiar with seismology, but would it be possible to have a layer of some material which bounces back the waves?

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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2010, 06:01:11 AM »
I'm not familiar with seismology, but would it be possible to have a layer of some material which bounces back the waves?
When you get a change in the medium in which the wave travels, you can get some reflection. This has already been taken into account with th RE model.

Until the FES tests the Earths composition and layers for themselves, I would find it hard to accept any of their claims.
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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2010, 07:45:38 AM »
I'm not familiar with seismology, but would it be possible to have a layer of some material which bounces back the waves?
When you get a change in the medium in which the wave travels, you can get some reflection. This has already been taken into account with th RE model.

Until the FES tests the Earths composition and layers for themselves, I would find it hard to accept any of their claims.

It's not just the reflection of the seismic waves, it's the reflection and refraction of the seismic waves as they pass through various layers of the earth that need to be taken into account.
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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2010, 12:28:24 PM »
And if you can't make it fit, introduce anistropic material...
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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2010, 02:35:43 PM »
And if you can't make it fit, introduce anistropic material...

Any relation to FE Aether?

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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2010, 07:47:23 PM »
I don't know that I subscribe to aether as such.
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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2011, 09:54:40 PM »
i remember when i asked a similar question earlier, they said that there is a medium, and the earth is not paper flat, it has thickness

you have to wait for an explanation though
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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2011, 04:33:00 AM »
Why wouldn't they be read from various points on the earth?

I think the point is a FE would have considerable trouble explaining the S wave Shadow zone, explained easily by RET.

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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2011, 04:34:58 AM »
And if you can't make it fit, introduce anistropic material...

Any relation to FE Aether?

Berny
Too cloudy here for seeing the eclipse.

Aether has existed since ancient times until now.  We have no part in "introducing" aether.  It has existed until Einstein, and after Einstein redefined it up into the current redefinitions now (which are very funny - why not call a cat a cat instead of whatever name will save you face in your paper against the globularist science monument?)
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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2011, 12:14:46 AM »
your magical phenomenon has occured before
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Re: Tectonic Plates
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2011, 07:37:11 AM »
And if you can't make it fit, introduce anistropic material...

Any relation to FE Aether?

Berny
Too cloudy here for seeing the eclipse.

Aether has existed since ancient times until now.  We have no part in "introducing" aether.  It has existed until Einstein, and after Einstein redefined it up into the current redefinitions now (which are very funny - why not call a cat a cat instead of whatever name will save you face in your paper against the globularist science monument?)

See the problem is that no one has been able to demonstrate that it exists, only hypothesize about it.
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