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« Reply #300 on: March 30, 2011, 10:25:24 AM »


but on the same note is it really fair that some people are wealthy by being born in the correct family and some work there asses off to make enough to live?

Fair is subjective. Please tell me why someone is evil for being born in to a life where they'll never have a money problem. Life isn't fair, no matter what you do it's gonna make it unfair to someone. Does this mean I don't think it's tragic? No, but life's a bitch.
okay so socialism/welfare and scuh is bad because people that don't work as hard as other people get paid the same, so the problem is people are getting things they didn't work to deserve. yet inheritance has the same issue (people getting stuff they did not work for) yet you don't have a problem with it....
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« Reply #301 on: March 30, 2011, 10:31:23 AM »


but on the same note is it really fair that some people are wealthy by being born in the correct family and some work there asses off to make enough to live?

Fair is subjective. Please tell me why someone is evil for being born in to a life where they'll never have a money problem. Life isn't fair, no matter what you do it's gonna make it unfair to someone. Does this mean I don't think it's tragic? No, but life's a bitch.
okay so socialism/welfare and scuh is bad because people that don't work as hard as other people get paid the same, so the problem is people are getting things they didn't work to deserve. yet inheritance has the same issue (people getting stuff they did not work for) yet you don't have a problem with it....

The difference is the source of the stuff.

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« Reply #302 on: March 30, 2011, 11:49:43 AM »
Debt is the leech that is slowly killing the American dream.
Debt is essential to many businesses.
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« Reply #303 on: March 30, 2011, 12:34:29 PM »
Debt is the leech that is slowly killing the American dream.
Debt is essential to many businesses.

Lies.  Or myths, whichever you prefer.

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« Reply #304 on: March 30, 2011, 12:51:21 PM »
Debt is the leech that is slowly killing the American dream.

I agree that debt is a major problem, but I also think greed might be just as bad.
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« Reply #305 on: March 30, 2011, 01:26:55 PM »
Debt is the leech that is slowly killing the American dream.

I agree that debt is a major problem, but I also think greed might be just as bad.

Greed screwed up your mom and stepfathers retirement? 

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« Reply #306 on: March 30, 2011, 01:34:14 PM »
I lol'd.

Whether you agree with me or not, writing a whole ideology off as bad because a minority can abuse a part of it is completely retarded.

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« Reply #307 on: March 30, 2011, 01:38:31 PM »
Debt is the leech that is slowly killing the American dream.

I agree that debt is a major problem, but I also think greed might be just as bad.

Greed screwed up your mom and stepfathers retirement? 

Well, yeah.
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« Reply #308 on: March 30, 2011, 01:40:59 PM »
Debt is the leech that is slowly killing the American dream.
Debt is essential to many businesses.

Lies.  Or myths, whichever you prefer.

So you only want the people that are already rich to be able to set up businesses?
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« Reply #309 on: March 30, 2011, 01:52:45 PM »
Debt is the leech that is slowly killing the American dream.
Debt is essential to many businesses.

Lies.  Or myths, whichever you prefer.

So you only want the people that are already rich to be able to set up businesses?
Thats really what you think isnt it?  Only the rich can get ahead.  Oh woe is you.  You will never amount to anything because you didn't start out rich.  Jesus you people are sad.  How about asking those rich folks for some cash to fund your brilliant idea for a small business.

One word, investors.

http://www.google.com/corporate/history.html


And this is just one way to get start up cash.   There are many others.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+get+money+to+start+a+small+bussiness

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« Reply #310 on: March 30, 2011, 01:53:11 PM »
Debt is the reason America is so successful. What if the founders of Blizzard Entertainment weren't able to borrow money from their parents? They would have been screwed.

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« Reply #311 on: March 30, 2011, 01:59:54 PM »
Debt is the leech that is slowly killing the American dream.
Debt is essential to many businesses.

Lies.  Or myths, whichever you prefer.

So you only want the people that are already rich to be able to set up businesses?
Thats really what you think isnt it?  Only the rich can get ahead.  Oh woe is you.  You will never amount to anything because you didn't start out rich.  Jesus you people are sad.  How about asking those rich folks for some cash to fund your brilliant idea for a small business.

One word, investors.

http://www.google.com/corporate/history.html


And this is just one way to get start up cash.   There are many others.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+get+money+to+start+a+small+bussiness

And surprise surprise, 9 out of 10 of those how to get money results is loan. Your point was what again?

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« Reply #312 on: March 30, 2011, 02:00:18 PM »
Debt is the reason America is so successful. What if the founders of Blizzard Entertainment weren't able to borrow money from their parents? They would have been screwed.

We'd have ~10 million people outside with some semblance of a social life  ::)

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« Reply #313 on: March 30, 2011, 02:03:45 PM »

And surprise surprise, 9 out of 10 of those how to get money results is loan. Your point was what again?

Enjoy your debt.

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« Reply #314 on: March 30, 2011, 02:12:45 PM »

And surprise surprise, 9 out of 10 of those how to get money results is loan. Your point was what again?

Enjoy your debt.

I'm not a business person. And didn't we do the debt thread already, where you happened to be the only one actually having a debt?
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« Reply #315 on: March 30, 2011, 02:15:20 PM »
ITT: Wardogg is the only hard worker.

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« Reply #316 on: March 30, 2011, 02:28:56 PM »

And surprise surprise, 9 out of 10 of those how to get money results is loan. Your point was what again?

Enjoy your debt.

I'm not a business person. And didn't we do the debt thread already, where you happened to be the only one actually having a debt?


I am also saving for retirement....should we have that thread as well?

I also am a single income family of soon to be 6.  Anyone else?  

ITT: Wardogg is the only hard worker.

No, but im the only one not whining about my position in life.


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« Reply #317 on: March 30, 2011, 02:33:32 PM »

And surprise surprise, 9 out of 10 of those how to get money results is loan. Your point was what again?

Enjoy your debt.

I'm not a business person. And didn't we do the debt thread already, where you happened to be the only one actually having a debt?


I am also saving for retirement....should we have that thread as well?

I also am a single income family of soon to be 6.  Anyone else?  


Enjoy your debt then.

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« Reply #318 on: March 30, 2011, 02:35:04 PM »
Enjoy your debt then.

But my only debt is actually increasing in value, and it currently has alot of equity. 

15 year fixed rate mortgages are acceptable debt.


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« Reply #319 on: March 30, 2011, 02:36:48 PM »
Enjoy your debt then.

But my only debt is actually increasing in value, and it currently has alot of equity. 

15 year fixed rate mortgages are acceptable debt.



I thought you said acceptable debt was a myth.  ???

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« Reply #320 on: March 30, 2011, 02:39:57 PM »
Enjoy your debt then.

But my only debt is actually increasing in value, and it currently has alot of equity. 

15 year fixed rate mortgages are acceptable debt.



I thought you said acceptable debt was a myth.  ???

I did?

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« Reply #321 on: March 30, 2011, 02:41:42 PM »
Debt is the leech that is slowly killing the American dream.
Debt is essential to many businesses.

Lies.  Or myths, whichever you prefer.

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« Reply #322 on: March 30, 2011, 02:42:59 PM »
Debt is the leech that is slowly killing the American dream.
Debt is essential to many businesses.

Lies.  Or myths, whichever you prefer.

That was about a business, not a mortgage for the house you live in.

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« Reply #323 on: March 30, 2011, 02:43:35 PM »
The American economy revolves around big businesses.

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« Reply #324 on: March 30, 2011, 02:46:23 PM »
The statement stands.

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« Reply #325 on: March 30, 2011, 02:47:06 PM »
How would those businesses have started if it weren't for debt?

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« Reply #326 on: March 30, 2011, 02:49:59 PM »
Thats really what you think isnt it?  Only the rich can get ahead.  Oh woe is you.  You will never amount to anything because you didn't start out rich.  Jesus you people are sad.  How about asking those rich folks for some cash to fund your brilliant idea for a small business.

One word, investors.

http://www.google.com/corporate/history.html


And this is just one way to get start up cash.   There are many others.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+get+money+to+start+a+small+bussiness

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« Reply #327 on: March 30, 2011, 02:57:32 PM »
Did you read any of the articles in the results?

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According to a 1998 study of small- and medium-sized enterprises by Thompson Lightstone and Company, fifty percent of small- and medium-sized business owners report that they currently borrow from a financial institution, such as a bank. Twelve percent of SMEs finance their companies through private loans from friends or relatives and three percent by loans from non-related individuals. Forty-one percent use personal credit cards to finance their businesses.

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« Reply #328 on: March 30, 2011, 03:05:42 PM »
If one has a good idea and sound planning but which also needs a fair amount of moolah, contacting a venture capitalist would be my choice over borrowing.

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« Reply #329 on: March 30, 2011, 03:42:26 PM »
Debt is the leech that is slowly killing the American dream.

I agree that debt is a major problem, but I also think greed might be just as bad.

Greed screwed up your mom and stepfathers retirement? 

They're not in debt, their house is paid for, their vehicles are paid for. 
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.