Accusation of being an Alt

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Horatio

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Accusation of being an Alt
« on: December 07, 2010, 05:50:33 PM »
"My alts: Clocktower, Horatio, flatearther43"

That is what EnglshGentleman has in the personal text section of his profile. It is disparaging against me for EnglshGentleman to claim that I am an alt of his creation.

This is a serious complaint. How is it acceptable for EnglshGentleman to disparage forum members by claiming that they are alts of his creation?

If the mods deem it to be allowed, fine, but I want the mod decision to be public, so I've created this thread.
How dare you have the audacity to demand my deposition. I've never even heard of you.

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2010, 06:31:12 PM »
I want the mod decision to be public
That sucks. Why do you feel that the mods must be held accountable to you? This site is not a democracy, and the mods are only accountable to Daniel, and, presumably, Wilmore.

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2010, 06:41:06 PM »
did he say that? i just read if the mods want to tell him that he is wrong, they should post it on this thread
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 06:46:15 PM »
did he say that? i just read if the mods want to tell him that he is wrong, they should post it on this thread
Lurk moar. Horatio has, in the past, demanded response from the mods on his whim. The thing is, the mods don't *have* to do anything an average user demands. Not a fucking thing.

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2010, 07:44:32 PM »
So persistent false accusations of rule-breaking to the point of borderline harassment against other users is not itself against the rules. Got it.
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 07:49:37 PM »
"My alts: Clocktower, Horatio, flatearther43"

That is what EnglshGentleman has in the personal text section of his profile. It is disparaging against me for EnglshGentleman to claim that I am an alt of his creation.

This is a serious complaint. How is it acceptable for EnglshGentleman to disparage forum members by claiming that they are alts of his creation?

If the mods deem it to be allowed, fine, but I want the mod decision to be public, so I've created this thread.

Is this really something to be upset about?
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 07:55:02 PM »
but alts get banned, so he is technically in danger of losing his account
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 07:58:16 PM »
but alts get banned, so he is technically in danger of losing his account

They can see ips right?
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2010, 07:59:56 PM »

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2010, 08:14:15 PM »
but alts get banned, so he is technically in danger of losing his account
No he's not, any mod who would ban Horatio because of what EG says on his profile would be retarded.

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2010, 09:09:46 PM »
but alts get banned, so he is technically in danger of losing his account
No he's not, any mod who would ban Horatio because of what EG says on his profile would be retarded.
Yeah just ban EG - the guy who made the Alts!

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2010, 10:48:59 PM »
EG is obviously doing this to antagonize Horatio, and the mods are just turning a blind eye to it.
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2010, 10:58:01 PM »
"My alts: Clocktower, Horatio, flatearther43"

That is what EnglshGentleman has in the personal text section of his profile. It is disparaging against me for EnglshGentleman to claim that I am an alt of his creation.

This is a serious complaint. How is it acceptable for EnglshGentleman to disparage forum members by claiming that they are alts of his creation?

If the mods deem it to be allowed, fine, but I want the mod decision to be public, so I've created this thread.
This is exactly how we find out who has an alt  ::)

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2010, 12:16:30 AM »
but alts get banned, so he is technically in danger of losing his account
No he's not, any mod who would ban Horatio because of what EG says on his profile would be retarded.
i know that, dont worry, but this would be his reason
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2010, 12:49:32 AM »
but alts get banned, so he is technically in danger of losing his account
No he's not, any mod who would ban Horatio because of what EG says on his profile would be retarded.
Yeah just ban EG - the guy who made the Alts!

The ban goes on the alts, not the alt maker. Just look at the precedent Username set.

I think its crystal clear that you are EG's alt.  I suggest a permaban on the alt account (Clocktower) and a warning on the main.  I decided to lean towards leniency since you are such an upstanding and informative poster.

He was quite stern in his pm.  :(

And you people wonder why Clocktower hasn't been posting...

Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2010, 12:52:38 AM »
Horatio is clearly EG's alt. Let's look at the evidence. Roger Moore and Sir Humphrey are both EnglshGentlemen. No more evidence. BURN THE WITH, BURN THE WITCH

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2010, 07:40:03 AM »
If the mods deem it to be allowed, fine, but I want the mod decision to be public, so I've created this thread.


Uh, the decision was "public":


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=44499.msg1102406#msg1102406
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2010, 11:58:58 AM »
If the mods deem it to be allowed, fine, but I want the mod decision to be public, so I've created this thread.


Uh, the decision was "public":


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=44499.msg1102406#msg1102406

No, you just closed the thread. That's not a decision.
How dare you have the audacity to demand my deposition. I've never even heard of you.

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2010, 12:14:11 PM »
I also posted in the thread. The post contains my decision.
"I want truth for truth's sake, not for the applaud or approval of men. I would not reject truth because it is unpopular, nor accept error because it is popular. I should rather be right and stand alone than run with the multitude and be wrong." - C.S. DeFord

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2010, 12:16:41 PM »
If the mods deem it to be allowed, fine, but I want the mod decision to be public, so I've created this thread.


Uh, the decision was "public":


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=44499.msg1102406#msg1102406

No, you just closed the thread. That's not a decision.
I also posted in the thread. The post contains my decision.

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Horatio

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2010, 12:17:03 PM »
I also posted in the thread. The post contains my decision.

That wasn't a decision. That was a cop out.
How dare you have the audacity to demand my deposition. I've never even heard of you.

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2010, 12:19:11 PM »
And so you condoned the mockery that he is currently undergoing, in this thread and many others. It amounts to borderline harassment, and you allowed it in this case.
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2010, 12:32:16 PM »
That wasn't a decision. That was a cop out.


In what way was it a "cop out"? If you're looking for special treatment, talk to your parents.


And so you condoned the mockery that he is currently undergoing, in this thread and many others. It amounts to borderline harassment, and you allowed it in this case.


I made the same decision as in the other instance. Incidentally, you started that thread and made this post within:


Maybe you and EG shouldn't bitch and moan about being harassed if you intend to do the same thing right back to him. No I don't really think these examples are harassment, but neither is what he does to you. We all just need to grow the fuck up here.


Don't be such a hypocrite.
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2010, 12:43:49 PM »
That case was people just being dicks to each other, this case is persistently and falsely accusing another of breaking the rules, it is two entirely different situations.
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2010, 12:45:56 PM »
And so you condoned the mockery that he is currently undergoing, in this thread and many others. It amounts to borderline harassment, and you allowed it in this case.
Bear in mind that "not condemning" doesn't equate to "condoning".

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2010, 12:53:46 PM »
EG obviously has no intention of settling this on his own, and has just escalated his behavior.
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2010, 01:06:06 PM »
this case is persistently and falsely accusing another of breaking the rules, it is two entirely different situations.

Ya, in RM and the Lounge. Get over yourself. It isn't like me calling him my alt is getting in the way of debate in the upper fora.

If he doesn't like it, then he should just not post in RM or the Lounge.

People have been claiming others are their alts for years here. Do you really think the mods seriously investigate them?
« Last Edit: December 08, 2010, 01:08:43 PM by EnglshGentleman »

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2010, 01:08:57 PM »
this case is persistently and falsely accusing another of breaking the rules, it is two entirely different situations.

Ya, in RM and the Lounge. Get over yourself. It isn't like me calling him my alt is getting in the way of debate in the upper fora.

If he doesn't like it, then he should just not post in RM or the Lounge.

That would be the case if you hadn't added the accusation to your permanent text, visible in every post.
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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2010, 01:11:04 PM »
this case is persistently and falsely accusing another of breaking the rules, it is two entirely different situations.

Ya, in RM and the Lounge. Get over yourself. It isn't like me calling him my alt is getting in the way of debate in the upper fora.

If he doesn't like it, then he should just not post in RM or the Lounge.

That would be the case if you hadn't added the accusation to your permanent text, visible in every post.

That doesn't give a reason on how it gets in the way of debate in the upper fora. It doesn't.

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Re: Accusation of being an Alt
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2010, 01:12:29 PM »
It can.

Besides, is it really necessary?
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