Dont understand

Surely if what you are saying is true then if you go so far in one direction eventually you would end up back you were. So how can the earth possibly be flat?

conspiracy, bendy light, UA, antimoon, dinosaurs travelling by boats, 30 mile diameter sun, no possibility of sustained space flight, ice wall, infinite earth, rewritten history, harmful moonlight, shall i say more??

Read the FAQ.

or "lurk moar", right?

No, seriously, the answer is in the FAQ and we politely ask everyone to read it before posting.

yep it is the answer, however, wrong one, as proven many times.

dont forget about the shrimp....

Cook books apparently make a good reference for FEer's.

The Flat Earth map looks like the United Nations Logo. Or, rather, I should say that the United Nations adopted the Flat Earth map as its logo.

North is Hubwards, South is Rimwards, East is Turnwise and West is Widdershins.

The Flat Earth map looks like United Nations Logo. Or, rather, I should say that the United Nations adopted the Flat Earth map as its logo.

North is Hubwards, South is Rimwards, East is Turnwise and West is Widdershins.

Really! Can you please lable the countries. Is it to scale? Can you show day night patterns?

Quote from: Tom Bishop on November 20, 2010, 12:26:44 AM

The Flat Earth map looks like United Nations Logo. Or, rather, I should say that the United Nations adopted the Flat Earth map as its logo.

North is Hubwards, South is Rimwards, East is Turnwise and West is Widdershins.

Really! Can you please lable the countries. Is it to scale? Can you show day night patterns?

Lurk.

How strange that no one will claim that map is accurate.

Quote from: Atom Man on November 20, 2010, 02:28:27 AM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on November 20, 2010, 12:26:44 AM

The Flat Earth map looks like United Nations Logo. Or, rather, I should say that the United Nations adopted the Flat Earth map as its logo.

North is Hubwards, South is Rimwards, East is Turnwise and West is Widdershins.

Really! Can you please lable the countries. Is it to scale? Can you show day night patterns?

Lurk.

In other words: no, no and no.

How strange that no one will claim that map is accurate.

It's not strange at all. What is strange is that you keep bringing this up, as if we constantly deny that we lack a truly accurate map or attempt to hide this problem. We've had loads of discussions about it, been open and frank, and yet you keep bringing it up. It's a shoddy debating tactic, and you know it.

Yeah right, its not strange that you cannot even provide us with your map. While I can - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=world+map . Its XXI century and you dont have a map. We travel around the globe, but you deny any map we provide you with. Lame. How come you are so blind...

Yeah right, its not strange that you cannot even provide us with your map. While I can - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=world+map . Its XXI century and you dont have a map. We travel around the globe, but you deny any map we provide you with. Lame. How come you are so blind...

Please shut up.  We all know TFES can't come up with a map; as Wilmore said, it's be brought up time and time again.  Find a new angle or go away.

Anyway, for those of you who are lurking-impaired like me:

Q: "When traveling in a straight direction, you will always reach the same point on the globe from where you started. How can this happen if the world is flat?"

A: You need to have evidence for this to be true. Also, define "straight." Remember, the northern point on the compass is pointing toward the center of the Earth. If you follow your compass due east or due west, ending up at the same point you started from, you have just gone around the world in a circle. Thus, circumnavigation is possible on FE.

I don't have time to think/lurk about it more, but what if you're navigating by the stars, rather than by compass?

its easy. Try stellarium to check it out. Gosh...

Yeah right, its not strange that you cannot even provide us with your map. While I can - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=world+map . Its XXI century and you dont have a map. We travel around the globe, but you deny any map we provide you with. Lame. How come you are so blind...

The maps you have provided of your round earth are all flat. You fail.

People tell us that we can't provide accurate maps, and then they present us with inaccurate maps? 

Quote from: rounder on November 22, 2010, 09:01:22 AM

Yeah right, its not strange that you cannot even provide us with your map. While I can - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=world+map . Its XXI century and you dont have a map. We travel around the globe, but you deny any map we provide you with. Lame. How come you are so blind...

The maps you have provided of your round earth are all flat. You fail.

People tell us that we can't provide accurate maps, and then they present us with inaccurate maps? 

Please tell us whether you can produce accurate maps.
Please us tell how the flat maps are inaccurate. Surely you aren't suggesting that because a map is flat it can't represent a section of the RE, right?

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on November 22, 2010, 11:37:06 PM

Quote from: rounder on November 22, 2010, 09:01:22 AM

Yeah right, its not strange that you cannot even provide us with your map. While I can - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=world+map . Its XXI century and you dont have a map. We travel around the globe, but you deny any map we provide you with. Lame. How come you are so blind...

The maps you have provided of your round earth are all flat. You fail.

People tell us that we can't provide accurate maps, and then they present us with inaccurate maps? 

Please tell us whether you can produce accurate maps.
Please us tell how the flat maps are inaccurate. Surely you aren't suggesting that because a map is flat it can't represent a section of the RE, right?

Whether I can produce an accurate map is irrelevant to whether his source did. Note that it said, "World Maps" not "Section of the World Maps". Do pay attention. Are you suggesting that a flat map of a spherical Earth is going to accurately represent it?

Quote from: ClockTower on November 22, 2010, 11:44:02 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on November 22, 2010, 11:37:06 PM

Quote from: rounder on November 22, 2010, 09:01:22 AM

Yeah right, its not strange that you cannot even provide us with your map. While I can - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=world+map . Its XXI century and you dont have a map. We travel around the globe, but you deny any map we provide you with. Lame. How come you are so blind...

The maps you have provided of your round earth are all flat. You fail.

People tell us that we can't provide accurate maps, and then they present us with inaccurate maps? 

Please tell us whether you can produce accurate maps.
Please us tell how the flat maps are inaccurate. Surely you aren't suggesting that because a map is flat it can't represent a section of the RE, right?

Whether I can produce an accurate map is irrelevant to whether his source did. Note that it said, "World Maps" not "Section of the World Maps". Do pay attention. Are you suggesting that a flat map of a spherical Earth is going to accurately represent it?

So you can't answer simple questions. Noted and expected.

Yes, I suggest that a flat map of the spherical Earth is more accurate than any FE map.

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on November 23, 2010, 12:26:19 AM

Quote from: ClockTower on November 22, 2010, 11:44:02 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on November 22, 2010, 11:37:06 PM

Quote from: rounder on November 22, 2010, 09:01:22 AM

Yeah right, its not strange that you cannot even provide us with your map. While I can - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=world+map . Its XXI century and you dont have a map. We travel around the globe, but you deny any map we provide you with. Lame. How come you are so blind...

The maps you have provided of your round earth are all flat. You fail.

People tell us that we can't provide accurate maps, and then they present us with inaccurate maps? 

Please tell us whether you can produce accurate maps.
Please us tell how the flat maps are inaccurate. Surely you aren't suggesting that because a map is flat it can't represent a section of the RE, right?

Whether I can produce an accurate map is irrelevant to whether his source did. Note that it said, "World Maps" not "Section of the World Maps". Do pay attention. Are you suggesting that a flat map of a spherical Earth is going to accurately represent it?

So you can't answer simple questions. Noted and expected.

Yes, I suggest that a flat map of the spherical Earth is more accurate than any FE map.

Do not try to derail this thread and go on a separate tangent. Stop being self-centered for a moment and realize that you are not the center of attention of every thread. I was addressing the OP assertion that he can provide an accurate global map, and what he gave us ended up being flat. If you want me to answer your questions, makes your own thread. If you do not have anything to add to the discussion, do not post. If you are going to post, do not fill them with strawman arguments, misrepresenting what other posters say. It is intellectually dishonest.

Quote from: ClockTower on November 23, 2010, 12:29:40 AM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on November 23, 2010, 12:26:19 AM

Quote from: ClockTower on November 22, 2010, 11:44:02 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on November 22, 2010, 11:37:06 PM

Quote from: rounder on November 22, 2010, 09:01:22 AM

Yeah right, its not strange that you cannot even provide us with your map. While I can - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=world+map . Its XXI century and you dont have a map. We travel around the globe, but you deny any map we provide you with. Lame. How come you are so blind...

The maps you have provided of your round earth are all flat. You fail.

People tell us that we can't provide accurate maps, and then they present us with inaccurate maps? 

Please tell us whether you can produce accurate maps.
Please us tell how the flat maps are inaccurate. Surely you aren't suggesting that because a map is flat it can't represent a section of the RE, right?

Whether I can produce an accurate map is irrelevant to whether his source did. Note that it said, "World Maps" not "Section of the World Maps". Do pay attention. Are you suggesting that a flat map of a spherical Earth is going to accurately represent it?

So you can't answer simple questions. Noted and expected.

Yes, I suggest that a flat map of the spherical Earth is more accurate than any FE map.

Do not try to derail this thread and go on a separate tangent. Stop being self-centered for a moment and realize that you are not the center of attention of every thread. I was addressing the OP assertion that he can provide an accurate global map, and what he gave us ended up being flat. If you do not have anything to add to the discussion, do not post. If you are going to post, do not fill them with strawman arguments, misrepresenting what other posters say. It is intellectually dishonest.

Name calling doesn't help your cause, again. Typical for an FEer though.

Again, explain your conclusion that flat maps are not accurate representations of a spherical Earth.

The maps you have provided of your round earth are all flat. You fail.

People tell us that we can't provide accurate maps, and then they present us with inaccurate maps?  

As soon as you get a spherical screen, we'll work on sending you an accurate, scaled roune earth map. Until then buy a globe, commonly available at many stores.

If you learn a bit of mathmatics, you will find that 3D images can easily be represented in 2D. So far FE can not represent 2D map in 2D. Go figure.

How can you say that not having a FE map is irrelivant? FE cannot predict position, days, months, lunar cycles, travel distance, seizmic waves, weather events (coriellis effect), time zones, sun position, constellation pisitions, sun rise/sunset, navigation. I fail to see how lack of a FE map is irreivant.

Name calling doesn't help your cause, again. Typical for an FEer though.

Again, explain your conclusion that flat maps are not accurate representations of a spherical Earth.

Some Lord Wilmore wisdom:

"We have actually many times before ClockTower. If you are either unwilling or unable to recall that discussion, perhaps you should refrain from posting. I certainly don't see why I should bother to go through all this again when you seem determined to ignore what anybody says. "

How about you grow up and stop acting like a two year old that needs everything explained to him. If you really do need basic concepts explained to you, then you should go back to school. If you can not retain explanations from one thread to another, that is your own fault. Jackass.

Until then buy a globe, commonly available at many stores.

A globe is an artistic rendition of the Earth, and isn't a navigational tool as a map is.

dont forget about the shrimp....

You mock the shrimp-like creatures because you lack an understanding of their implications. They are sonoluminescent which I believe is the leading source of the harmful moon rays.

I am conducting an experement to prove this. Because I do not have any of the sonoluminescent moon creatures, I've taken pistol shrimp (from earth) to be a stand in, as they produce light from sound as well. In one tank, I placed 6 pistol shrimp with 20 guppies and in seperate tanks (in a different room) I placed 6 pistol shrimp but I seperated the guppies by a sheet of lead. Amazingly, all the guppies in the tank with the shrimp died, while all the guppies seperated from the harmful shrimp-light survived. Both groups were placed in rooms well below the surface in total darkness as to not have the study altered by stray moon rays.

More questions need to be asked, and more studies ran. However, it would seem that it is quite apparent, by the death of these tiny guppies, that sonoluminescence is very lethal and the most likely cause of the harmfullness from the moon.

My next study will be to try and observe any guppies exibiting symptoms of seizures from the shrimp-light.

What is it with you guys and conducting stupid experiments?

There is no indication of the moon's rays being bio luminescent, and even if they were, there is no indication that they are the result of shrimp.

I've never said they were anything but shrimp-like creatures and I mean that in the sense that they both produce light from sound. Please take care to read posts throughly before wildly jumping to conclussions.


I would also like to note that I'm not saying that they aren't shrimp either. It's difficult to see them clearly from earth.

Quote from: iwanttobelieve on November 19, 2010, 04:02:07 PM

dont forget about the shrimp....

You mock the shrimp-like creatures because you lack an understanding of their implications. They are sonoluminescent which I believe is the leading source of the harmful moon rays.

I am conducting an experement to prove this. Because I do not have any of the sonoluminescent moon creatures, I've taken pistol shrimp (from earth) to be a stand in, as they produce light from sound as well. In one tank, I placed 6 pistol shrimp with 20 guppies and in seperate tanks (in a different room) I placed 6 pistol shrimp but I seperated the guppies by a sheet of lead. Amazingly, all the guppies in the tank with the shrimp died, while all the guppies seperated from the harmful shrimp-light survived. Both groups were placed in rooms well below the surface in total darkness as to not have the study altered by stray moon rays.

More questions need to be asked, and more studies ran. However, it would seem that it is quite apparent, by the death of these tiny guppies, that sonoluminescence is very lethal and the most likely cause of the harmfullness from the moon.

My next study will be to try and observe any guppies exibiting symptoms of seizures from the shrimp-light.

This only proves that you're full of it.

OMG EG. I am not sure how is it in England but in Poland we learn about this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection in primary school. Read and I dont use the word "read" as "look at the text" but indeed READ. Then you maybe will realize how is it possible to project "spherical map - globus" on a flat surface and what are the difficulties...