Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?

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Raist

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2011, 07:24:55 AM »
The Earth is a complex living organism.

No, it is a habitat.

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2011, 03:40:58 PM »
For one I agree with most on here.












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Lord Wilmore

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2011, 09:40:07 AM »
Not at all, an algae-infested lake has a rich ecosystem of algae, insects, fungi and nematodes, who is to say this much uglier ecosystem isn't better than the fish ecosystem?

Equally a chicken farm breeds vermin, insects, parasites, birds who feed on vermin, the rich collection of life in the manure, fleas and ticks etc etc.


Yes, but for the algae to wipe out the fish, they and the associated insects etc. must already exist. The deep ecologist wants to keep both, not one at the expense of the other. It's the overall diversity which is important, not the amount of any one species or group of species.
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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2011, 11:58:29 AM »
Of course, GM companies don't give a shit what ecologists think. They're making more food using less area and less chemicals. Thus, more money. It should also be pointed out that organic food is much worse for you because it includes pesticides and stuff.

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Chris Spaghetti

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2011, 12:57:07 AM »
Not at all, an algae-infested lake has a rich ecosystem of algae, insects, fungi and nematodes, who is to say this much uglier ecosystem isn't better than the fish ecosystem?

Equally a chicken farm breeds vermin, insects, parasites, birds who feed on vermin, the rich collection of life in the manure, fleas and ticks etc etc.


Yes, but for the algae to wipe out the fish, they and the associated insects etc. must already exist. The deep ecologists wants to keep both, not one at the expense of the other. It's the overall diversity which is important, not the amount of any one species or group of species.

Ah ok, that makes more sense. I don't understand why diversity is inherently better but I can see what their position is now.

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2011, 01:20:53 AM »
I don't understand why diversity is inherently better

See also: Natural selection.
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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2011, 06:35:24 AM »
The ideology of Deep Ecology is quite interesting, but will be ultimately ineffective to change our path. The whole world is too globalized and technological to go back now. We can't see nature as anything other than a field of competing forces acting upon inanimate 'stuff'. Nature is now and will be in the future nothing more than networked systems of human life support. As Marshall McLuhan used to say, we live in an electronic envelope; nature is dead and we have killed her.

To consider the earth an organism in and of itself is an idea long gone in human history. You can grow your rooftop garden, use recycled toilet paper, and ride your bike everywhere you go, but you're just a rebel scoundrel in a technological empire.
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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2011, 03:18:43 PM »
To consider the earth an organism in and of itself is an idea long gone in human history.
Incorrect. Please familiarise yourself with Polish Positivism.
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Benocrates

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2011, 06:53:25 PM »
To consider the earth an organism in and of itself is an idea long gone in human history.
Incorrect. Please familiarise yourself with Polish Positivism.

How is that relevant? I'm not arguing that nobody holds the view that the earth is an organism, but rather that it is no longer legitimate or sensible in a globalized world.
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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2011, 04:40:31 AM »
I just went to war with a small insurgency of wasps that seem to think my garage was a training ground for their suicide bombers.   I decided chemical warfare was the only way to be sure to be rid of them all.   Needless to say the operation was a success.  Stupid bugs.  Oh...and they eat my peaches out of my peach tree.  Those fuckers are going down....every last one of them.

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2011, 06:27:04 AM »
In the words of the Daleks

EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2011, 08:34:28 AM »
I just went to war with a small insurgency of wasps that seem to think my garage was a training ground for their suicide bombers.   I decided chemical warfare was the only way to be sure to be rid of them all.   Needless to say the operation was a success.  Stupid bugs.  Oh...and they eat my peaches out of my peach tree.  Those fuckers are going down....every last one of them.

I don't kill bees, I just wound then badly enough that they can't fly. Time and dehydration do the rest.

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2011, 08:39:55 AM »
Bees are important and dying out, I once found a bee obviously exhausted, miles from the nest and close to death, I gave it a few grains of granulated sugar and it soon perked right up.

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Raist

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2011, 08:42:23 AM »
Bee colonies are becoming rare. Bees themselves are still lack value.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2011, 08:44:23 AM »
I dont mess with bees....actually i'm pondering farming bees.....wasps on the other hand.  What purpose do they serve but to each my peaches....that i want to eat.

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2011, 10:09:42 AM »
There are at least one species of beneficial wasp. They lay their eggs (or whatever, larvae?) in tomato and tobacco worms, then the little buggers eat the worms.  If you get enough of them, you won't have to worry about the worms eating up your tomato plants.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2011, 10:24:29 AM »
There are at least one species of beneficial wasp. They lay their eggs (or whatever, larvae?) in tomato and tobacco worms, then the little buggers eat the worms.  If you get enough of them, you won't have to worry about the worms eating up your tomato plants.

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Re: Should "Mother Earth" be given the same rights as humans?
« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2011, 07:11:47 PM »
No.