Proof: The Earth is Round

Quote from: zork on November 14, 2010, 01:44:32 PM

But the claim about the Earth being flat is not valid. None of the FEers have not seen the Earth in its entirety.

The same objection can be raised against the RE hypothesis.

No, you can't. Because here on the round Earth people have been on space and seen the Earth in its entirety.

Quote from: parsec on November 14, 2010, 01:45:49 PM

Quote from: zork on November 14, 2010, 01:44:32 PM

But the claim about the Earth being flat is not valid. None of the FEers have not seen the Earth in its entirety.

The same objection can be raised against the RE hypothesis.

No, you can't. Because here on the round Earth people have been on space and seen the Earth in its entirety.

No, they were not. And, even if you had gone to space, you would have not been able to see a round earth in its entirety.

Quote from: zork on November 14, 2010, 01:49:21 PM

No, you can't. Because here on the round Earth people have been on space and seen the Earth in its entirety.

No, they were not. And, even if you had gone to space, you would have not been able to see a round earth in its entirety.

You can deny that as much as you want but that won't make people who went to space to disappear. And yes, you can. You can go around the Earth and see it in its entirety.

Quote from: zork on November 14, 2010, 01:49:21 PM

Quote from: parsec on November 14, 2010, 01:45:49 PM

Quote from: zork on November 14, 2010, 01:44:32 PM

But the claim about the Earth being flat is not valid. None of the FEers have not seen the Earth in its entirety.

The same objection can be raised against the RE hypothesis.

No, you can't. Because here on the round Earth people have been on space and seen the Earth in its entirety.

No, they were not. And, even if you had gone to space, you would have not been able to see a round earth in its entirety.

Actually, you could.  The Apollo astronauts had about a 2 day trip each way to and from the moon.  During that time they would have been able to observe the entire earth as it rotates on its axis.  Same goes with satellites in polar orbits.  You just wouldn't be able to see the round earth in its entirety all at once (which is not what zork had claimed).

You can deny that as much as you want but that won't make people who went to space to disappear.

You mean, like this guy:

You can go around the Earth and see it in its entirety.

Do you have any proof for this outlandish claim?

Quote from: zork on November 14, 2010, 02:07:30 PM

You can deny that as much as you want but that won't make people who went to space to disappear.

You mean, like this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin#Death_and_legacy

What about him?

Quote from: zork on November 14, 2010, 02:07:30 PM

You can deny that as much as you want but that won't make people who went to space to disappear.

You mean, like this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin#Death_and_legacy

 Did he disappear because you deny the space travel? No. I mean the people who are now in the space and who are alive.

Quote from: zork on November 14, 2010, 02:07:30 PM

You can go around the Earth and see it in its entirety.

Do you have any proof for this outlandish claim?

  Of course. But as you deny the technological advancement then there is no use to show you any videos or photographs. And as private entrepreneurs take things on their own hands there are soon quite many space going persons. But as I or anyone can provide some links to the photos or videos taken from space and to show the entire earth globe then how about you? Can you provide some material which shows the entire flat earth? Even some faked and realistic one?

None of the FEers have not seen the Earth in its entirety.

Doesn't this entail that all of the FEers have seen the Earth in its entirety?

Quote from: zork on November 14, 2010, 01:44:32 PM

None of the FEers have not seen the Earth in its entirety.

Doesn't this entail that all of the FEers have seen the Earth in its entirety?

My mistakes in english language do not entail that. I guess the right version is then - None of the FEers have seen the Earth in its entirety.

Quote from: wecl0me12 on November 14, 2010, 05:43:01 AM

OK, now we are going to carry out clocktower's experiment. ON November 15, 2010 local astronomical noon, everyone measure the altitude of the sun.

If the values are exactly as  predicted by RET, then RET is correct.
If the values are all weird, then bendy light theory is correct.

Please post your latitude (including N or S) and the altitude of the Sun. I recommend using a stake on flat ground. Measure the height (h) of the stick and its shadow (s). The altitude would arctan(h/s). Note: since the Sun is directly above a latitude other than the Equator, the angle will not be the complement of your latitude. If your location is too overcast on Monday, please try again on Tuesday or Wednesday, but be sure to report the change. If your time zone permits, you're also welcome to measure on Sunday.

I will look for outliers and see if they come from questionable sources known to have lied about experimental data previously.

Thanks!

Cloudy in Luleå, Sweden (65 deg 35 min north), unfortunately.

40.^oN
30.^o
Monday, 11/15/2010

I used my GPS to get an exact figure for latitude, I am at 29 degrees 51.242 minutes North.

I got an approximate figure for the sun's altitude of 41.42 degrees.

The sun only came out for about a minute 15 minutes after astronomical noon, so that's the best I could do.

I'll try it again tomorrow if I can and try to be more precise.

I repeated my observation today (it was a lot sunnier). For Tuesday 11/16, at latitude 29 degrees 51.242 minutes North at local astronomical noon, I measured the sun's altitude to be 39.93 degrees.

I repeated my observation today (it was a lot sunnier). For Tuesday 11/16, at latitude 29 degrees 51.242 minutes North at local astronomical noon, I measured the sun's altitude to be 39.93 degrees.

Thanks. So far all three observations point to a RE to two sigfigs.

I'm in the West Midlands. The Sun is too far away to be seen right now.

I'm in the West Midlands. The Sun is too far away to be seen right now.

Remember that you have take the measurement at local astronomical noon.