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Quote from: EnglshGentleman on November 21, 2010, 10:14:43 AM

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Quote from: EnglshGentleman on November 17, 2010, 10:13:14 AM

Quote from: Raist on November 17, 2010, 09:13:06 AM

Here is the difference, the quran is believed by muslims to be the exact word of muhammed.

You don't think many Christians believe the Bible to be the exact word of God?

Most do not, I hope.

While it is true that it is a custom that god inspired those who wrote it, you would have to be rather extreme to say that every word is the word of god.

Either way, the bible is mostly a history book.

As shown by the stoning example, the bible may say to stone people, but christians do not turn that verse into a custom of the religion. The quran tells to stone people and muslims do take that into the custom of their religion.

Maybe I'm am just from a freaky part of the country, but here there are bible literalists that do think every word is the word of God. They justify not stoning people by saying Jesus made the Old Testament Laws not matter. If you point out any places that do not make sense or are contradictory they just reply that the "original" bible is the perfect world of God, but translators are shit and that's why there may be errors.

Well, those people are idiots. I don't think that they represent christianity as a whole or even views typical for a christian.

Maybe the Southwest and Texas is just retarded then. I can accept that. I actually find it interesting that the mormons here (there are lots) tend to be more reasonable than the Christians.

Mormons are christians....

redacted after remembering mormon doctrine. While they do think the christian god was a "god" they think he is one that used to be a man, like everyone else. So they more just acknowledge Christianity.

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Huh? Are you concluding that all anti-abortionists are Christians? Or in the above post, that all Klan members are killing in the name of Christ?

Of for the love of the fucking spaghetti monster wake up you ignorant fuck. Don't you see the fucking similarities? The Muslim extremists do not fucking represent most of modern Islam! Most Muslims are quite happy to spend their days working out how to pay the mortgage and how to put food on their families (sorry, couldn't resist a Bushism)

Fucking Hell, where do you get off generalising Muslims but pulling the old-as-fuck 'No-true-Scotsman' defence for YOUR fucking brand of bronze-age mythology?! Oh wait, I forgot that followers of the One True Faith (TM) were allowed to do that, except of course that ALL faiths think they're the 'One True Faith'

Everybody goes to heaven, but just to different levels of it.

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on November 25, 2010, 04:22:56 PM

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Huh? Are you concluding that all anti-abortionists are Christians? Or in the above post, that all Klan members are killing in the name of Christ?

Of for the love of the fucking spaghetti monster wake up you ignorant fuck. Don't you see the fucking similarities? The Muslim extremists do not fucking represent most of modern Islam! Most Muslims are quite happy to spend their days working out how to pay the mortgage and how to put food on their families (sorry, couldn't resist a Bushism)

Fucking Hell, where do you get off generalising Muslims but pulling the old-as-fuck 'No-true-Scotsman' defence for YOUR fucking brand of bronze-age mythology?! Oh wait, I forgot that followers of the One True Faith (TM) were allowed to do that, except of course that ALL faiths think they're the 'One True Faith'

Hey, Fuck you, you fucking fuck.

I did not generalize Muslims. All I stated was that the people in the middle east committing terrorists attacks, are the extremist Islamic people. Hard to comprehend? I didn't generalized the Muslim people at all. Fuck this world where anything anyone says is "OMFG GENERALIZING" Its fucking horrible. GTFO you politically correct faggots.

Is it so hard to comprehend that the ones blowing themselves up are doing it for Allah/Muhammed? That's what their version of Islam teaches. You do this, you get 40 virgins or w/e. I'm also PRETTY FUCKING SURE, that not all the anti-abortionists are extremist Christians. Fuck, they can be any religion for that matter, even no religion at all. I'm against abortion, and I'm agnostic, can you comprehend that?

It doesn't fucking matter at all, when one strongly supports a position, like you fucktards on this board, me defending the opposite position only makes you strongly agree with your side more.

I'd also like to note, Mormonism is the weirdest religion (thats actually regarded as one) ever conceived.

Quote from: JamesJamie on November 25, 2010, 09:32:35 PM

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on November 25, 2010, 04:22:56 PM

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Huh? Are you concluding that all anti-abortionists are Christians? Or in the above post, that all Klan members are killing in the name of Christ?

Of for the love of the fucking spaghetti monster wake up you ignorant fuck. Don't you see the fucking similarities? The Muslim extremists do not fucking represent most of modern Islam! Most Muslims are quite happy to spend their days working out how to pay the mortgage and how to put food on their families (sorry, couldn't resist a Bushism)

Fucking Hell, where do you get off generalising Muslims but pulling the old-as-fuck 'No-true-Scotsman' defence for YOUR fucking brand of bronze-age mythology?! Oh wait, I forgot that followers of the One True Faith (TM) were allowed to do that, except of course that ALL faiths think they're the 'One True Faith'

Hey, Fuck you, you fucking fuck.

I did not generalize Muslims. All I stated was that the people in the middle east committing terrorists attacks, are the extremist Islamic people. Hard to comprehend? I didn't generalized the Muslim people at all. Fuck this world where anything anyone says is "OMFG GENERALIZING" Its fucking horrible. GTFO you politically correct faggots.

Is it so hard to comprehend that the ones blowing themselves up are doing it for Allah/Muhammed? That's what their version of Islam teaches. You do this, you get 40 virgins or w/e. I'm also PRETTY FUCKING SURE, that not all the anti-abortionists are extremist Christians. Fuck, they can be any religion for that matter, even no religion at all. I'm against abortion, and I'm agnostic, can you comprehend that?

It doesn't fucking matter at all, when one strongly supports a position, like you fucktards on this board, me defending the opposite position only makes you strongly agree with your side more.

I'd also like to note, Mormonism is the weirdest religion (thats actually regarded as one) ever conceived.

Yes very true, except that they were ALL christians. And the only point that I wanted to make is that people should stop saying there are muslim terrorists so all muslims are terrorists.


And i still think scientology is pretty high up the weird ladder.

Yeah, the worst people in the world are from Glasgow, good thing they aren't True Scotsmen.

Can you summarise? I can't open youtube links here and I'll be too pissed to remember later on.

They say the Catholic church is the largest bank in the world.  Good thing they aren't Christians.

Is Christianity a real religion, or just an extravagant money making scheme?  Most religions are about power and money.  One cult is just as good as another.

They say the Catholic church is the largest bank in the world.  Good thing they aren't Christians.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 26, 2010, 06:45:05 AM

Is Christianity a real religion, or just an extravagant money making scheme?  Most religions are about power and money.  One cult is just as good as another.

Are you saying Christianity is the same as Scientology? GTFO you atheist penguin. This is why no one likes arguing with "holier than thou" Atheists. Oh shit I forgot, you don't like the word holier, bark me up the tree on that one will ya?

Yes, religions have their downside, but when you compare an actual cult, with an actual religion, it makes you seem...idk, like a chauvinistic prick.

Religion bashing needs to stop. It serves a deeper purpose. Religious people live longer, have less rates of depression, and are more likely to give to the poor/charities. Religious organizations amount to the vast majority of aid going to other countries, and here at home.

I still can't believe you compared Scientology to Christianity...

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 26, 2010, 06:45:05 AM

Is Christianity a real religion, or just an extravagant money making scheme?  Most religions are about power and money.  One cult is just as good as another.

BAAAAAWWW!!!

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 26, 2010, 06:45:05 AM

Is Christianity a real religion, or just an extravagant money making scheme?  Most religions are about power and money.  One cult is just as good as another.

Are you saying Christianity is the same as Scientology? GTFO you atheist penguin. This is why no one likes arguing with "holier than thou" Atheists. Oh shit I forgot, you don't like the word holier, bark me up the tree on that one will ya?

Yes, religions have their downside, but when you compare an actual cult, with an actual religion, it makes you seem...idk, like a chauvinistic prick.

Religion bashing needs to stop. It serves a deeper purpose. Religious people live longer, have less rates of depression, and are more likely to give to the poor/charities. Religious organizations amount to the vast majority of aid going to other countries, and here at home.

I still can't believe you compared Scientology to Christianity...

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 26, 2010, 06:45:05 AM

Is Christianity a real religion, or just an extravagant money making scheme?  Most religions are about power and money.  One cult is just as good as another.

Are you saying Christianity is the same as Scientology? GTFO you atheist penguin. This is why no one likes arguing with "holier than thou" Atheists. Oh shit I forgot, you don't like the word holier, bark me up the tree on that one will ya?

Yes, religions have their downside, but when you compare an actual cult, with an actual religion, it makes you seem...idk, like a chauvinistic prick.

Religion bashing needs to stop. It serves a deeper purpose. Religious people live longer, have less rates of depression, and are more likely to give to the poor/charities. Religious organizations amount to the vast majority of aid going to other countries, and here at home.

I still can't believe you compared Scientology to Christianity...

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 26, 2010, 06:45:05 AM

Is Christianity a real religion, or just an extravagant money making scheme?  Most religions are about power and money.  One cult is just as good as another.

Are you saying Christianity is the same as Scientology? GTFO you atheist penguin. This is why no one likes arguing with "holier than thou" Atheists. Oh shit I forgot, you don't like the word holier, bark me up the tree on that one will ya?

Yes, religions have their downside, but when you compare an actual cult, with an actual religion, it makes you seem...idk, like a chauvinistic prick.

Religion bashing needs to stop. It serves a deeper purpose. Religious people live longer, have less rates of depression, and are more likely to give to the poor/charities. Religious organizations amount to the vast majority of aid going to other countries, and here at home.

I still can't believe you compared Scientology to Christianity...

Quote from: JamesJamie on November 26, 2010, 02:18:12 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 26, 2010, 06:45:05 AM

Is Christianity a real religion, or just an extravagant money making scheme?  Most religions are about power and money.  One cult is just as good as another.

Are you saying Christianity is the same as Scientology? GTFO you atheist penguin. This is why no one likes arguing with "holier than thou" Atheists. Oh shit I forgot, you don't like the word holier, bark me up the tree on that one will ya?

Yes, religions have their downside, but when you compare an actual cult, with an actual religion, it makes you seem...idk, like a chauvinistic prick.

Religion bashing needs to stop. It serves a deeper purpose. Religious people live longer, have less rates of depression, and are more likely to give to the poor/charities. Religious organizations amount to the vast majority of aid going to other countries, and here at home.

I still can't believe you compared Scientology to Christianity...

Scientolgy and Christianity are both equally plausible religions.  I'm not sure why you find that offensive.  And yes, religious people due tend to lead a "better life".  Religions like Christianity are great in that respect.  However, there's no need to attend a church, give money to it, and follow some of its more extreme views (hating gays?) for the sake of happiness.  I'm sure people who simply believe in a higher power get all the benefits of Christianity without all the crazy.

Quote from: Hessy on November 29, 2010, 09:42:45 AM

Quote from: JamesJamie on November 26, 2010, 02:18:12 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 26, 2010, 06:45:05 AM

Is Christianity a real religion, or just an extravagant money making scheme?  Most religions are about power and money.  One cult is just as good as another.

Are you saying Christianity is the same as Scientology? GTFO you atheist penguin. This is why no one likes arguing with "holier than thou" Atheists. Oh shit I forgot, you don't like the word holier, bark me up the tree on that one will ya?

Yes, religions have their downside, but when you compare an actual cult, with an actual religion, it makes you seem...idk, like a chauvinistic prick.

Religion bashing needs to stop. It serves a deeper purpose. Religious people live longer, have less rates of depression, and are more likely to give to the poor/charities. Religious organizations amount to the vast majority of aid going to other countries, and here at home.

I still can't believe you compared Scientology to Christianity...

Scientolgy and Christianity are both equally plausible religions.  I'm not sure why you find that offensive.  And yes, religious people due tend to lead a "better life".  Religions like Christianity are great in that respect.  However, there's no need to attend a church, give money to it, and follow some of its more extreme views (hating gays?) for the sake of happiness.  I'm sure people who simply believe in a higher power get all the benefits of Christianity without all the crazy.

I think the motives at the beginning of each religion would call scientology farther into question than they would christianity. While this is proof neither way, you should remember who became insanely rich off of starting a religion, and who keeps their holy book copyrighted and under lock and key.

While the ideas may be equally silly, one group certainly is doing much more harm and is much more likely to have malicious and self serving intentions.

Quote from: Raist on November 30, 2010, 09:51:51 AM

Quote from: Hessy on November 29, 2010, 09:42:45 AM

Quote from: JamesJamie on November 26, 2010, 02:18:12 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 26, 2010, 06:45:05 AM

Is Christianity a real religion, or just an extravagant money making scheme?  Most religions are about power and money.  One cult is just as good as another.

Are you saying Christianity is the same as Scientology? GTFO you atheist penguin. This is why no one likes arguing with "holier than thou" Atheists. Oh shit I forgot, you don't like the word holier, bark me up the tree on that one will ya?

Yes, religions have their downside, but when you compare an actual cult, with an actual religion, it makes you seem...idk, like a chauvinistic prick.

Religion bashing needs to stop. It serves a deeper purpose. Religious people live longer, have less rates of depression, and are more likely to give to the poor/charities. Religious organizations amount to the vast majority of aid going to other countries, and here at home.

I still can't believe you compared Scientology to Christianity...

Scientolgy and Christianity are both equally plausible religions.  I'm not sure why you find that offensive.  And yes, religious people due tend to lead a "better life".  Religions like Christianity are great in that respect.  However, there's no need to attend a church, give money to it, and follow some of its more extreme views (hating gays?) for the sake of happiness.  I'm sure people who simply believe in a higher power get all the benefits of Christianity without all the crazy.

I think the motives at the beginning of each religion would call scientology farther into question than they would christianity. While this is proof neither way, you should remember who became insanely rich off of starting a religion, and who keeps their holy book copyrighted and under lock and key.

While the ideas may be equally silly, one group certainly is doing much more harm and is much more likely to have malicious and self serving intentions.

Well, I think some "motives" get distorted (for better or for worse) over time, but you're right.  Some religious groups certainly are more harmful than others, but most (if not all) prey on people's desires for redemption, spirituality, community, etc.

I wonder what celebrities get out of Scientology, they have to know about all that Xenu shit.