This site is a joke right?

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I can historically prove that God was invented by men.

I would be extremely interested in reading such a proof.

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There is no evidence or logical proof to point to God

I have yet to see any evidence or logical proof agaist God, and as aware as I am of Russell's teapot, I am as yet unaware as to why the claim that God exists is any more preposterous than the claim that God does not exist.

The Bible, the Qu'ran, The Torah, The Prophet Jesus, The Prophet Muhammad, Abraham, Duddha, Confucious, all men or books written by men, who started world religions.

Lack of proof against (with no proof in favour of) is not proof at all. There are many paradoxes about God (omnipotence, creation) and one can demonstrate that determinism is inevitable, so God either a) does not have Free Will or c) has no will at all.

Occam's razor tells you to remove unnecessary entities, God is one of said entities. His/Her/Its existence is totally unneeded in the Universe.

using that, I can prove that women are evil, money causes cancer, and pretty much anything is anything it is not

using that, I can prove that women are evil, money causes cancer, and pretty much anything is anything it is not

Go ahead. Put your gold-backed paper where your mouth is.

I cannot take credit for that one.

Money is the instrument of the devil

the devil is evil

cancer is evil,

not as good but whatever, I just made it up on the spot.

This site is a joke right?

YOUR FACE IS A JOKE (jkng   )

Money is the instrument of the devil

the devil is evil

cancer is evil,

so, your saying money = cancer?

Mmm... hotlinking... definatley not allowed. That kills servers you know. Next time take the image URL and paste it to http://imageshack.us (they've got plenty of bandwidth to host images). Watch out, because I have a friend with a website full of funny images, and when people try to hotlink them, the server replaces them a nice explicit porno image.



This cannot even be compared to mine. It confuses math, logic, and language, uses false axioms and takes idioms literally; it's a joke, mine is a language tool.

Faith = No Logical Proof, No Logical Proof = Illogical Proof = Illogical Belief = Errors in Reasoning = Incorrect Reasoning = Wrong

The Bible, the Qu'ran, The Torah, The Prophet Jesus, The Prophet Muhammad, Abraham, Duddha, Confucious, all men or books written by men, who started world religions.

I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about proving that God was invented by men, not that religion was invented by men.  The two are not equivalen in this scenario.  I cpntinue to await your proof.

Lack of proof against (with no proof in favour of) is not proof at all.

Nor is Occam's razor.  It is a heuristic, not a law.  I therefore contend that you still failed to reason ad absurdum, in addition to misrepresenting the initial argument.

As for your woefully egotistical "funnel":
Many people, as demonstrated by this site, take the fact that the earth is round on faith, as the have no logical reason behind their idea that it is round, other than the fact that it is what they were taught.  Therefore, by Ubuntu's Funnel, the earth cannot be round.

As for CrimsonKing...what was that?  I really don't see any way it could be considered relevant, let alone sufficient reason to critique Ubuntu's reasoning.

Honestly, Ubuntu, I'm sorry, but 6strings is correct that your logic is a bit faulty. I don't think you're expressing yourself very well. Let me try.

Occam's Razor is only a very general tool; it doesn't prove anything. It needs to be applied in a specific way to have a validity. If two competing models both explain aspects of the real world equally well, then we must provisionally accept the simpler model as true until such time as evidence arises that favors one model over the other.
Further, simply because something hasn't/cannot be disproved does not make it reasonable to believe that it is true, as with Russell's teapot. We cannot disprove the existence of the teapot, or any specific deity, but if what we observe about the world is explained at least equally well without the deity, then the only logical course is to act as though the deity did not exist until such time as we have further evidence; then we must re-evaluate. This is how science, and indeed all rational thought, works.

I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about proving that God was invented by men, not that religion was invented by men. The two are not equivalen in this scenario.  I continue to await your proof.

All religions were invented by man. Religions are what predominantley lead people to believe in God. The large majority of beliefs in this world today was invented by different men.

The next part is trickier, because no one knows for how long before they wrote about it people started thinking about higher powers. If they wrote about, they thought about it, and the idea must've been a function of cognition. Now you could say that God talked to these people or inspired them to think of these things, but there is no historical (religious texts are far too biased too count) evidence of these things happening and you could also argue that all ideas - including Grand Theft Auto: Vice City and Atheism are inspired but God, but there is no reason to believe that they were.

You could also say that the events described by Scientologists happened too, but there is no evidence that they did or that L. Ron Hubbard is really a prophet (there are several "prophets" on the streets of any city you can name).

Religion is defined as "belief in a higher power" and we can first trace back to the Ancient East, where Conficious and Buddha lived, men, who wrote about Tao and Buddha and whatnot (not compatible with each other or traditional Abrahamic God) -- this is history and these are men.

Many people, as demonstrated by this site, take the fact that the earth is round on faith... Therefore, by Ubuntu's Funnel, the earth cannot be round.

Actually we look at photos, videos, read about astronauts, space programs, study science and astronomy... logical proof and material evidence. (Even if someone were fooling you by providing false material evidence -- a clone of your dead spouse, say -- the conclusion you come to would not be illogical.)