The Conspiracy

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #60 on: November 08, 2010, 05:08:15 PM »
Quote from: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Atmolayer
Ice Wall Containment

The atmolayer must be contained by a barrier on finite Earth models of the theory to prevent the various gasses from flowing out into space. One model (now widely discredited) describes that the Ice Wall is tall enough to hold in the atmolayer, like the edges of a bowl.

Then what is the significance of the 150 foot ice shelves in FET?

The Antarctic coast holds in the oceans, and represents the boundaries of our known world.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #61 on: November 08, 2010, 05:16:04 PM »
Quote from: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Atmolayer
Ice Wall Containment

The atmolayer must be contained by a barrier on finite Earth models of the theory to prevent the various gasses from flowing out into space. One model (now widely discredited) describes that the Ice Wall is tall enough to hold in the atmolayer, like the edges of a bowl.

The Wiki says that the idea of a greater Ice Wall is not currently supported.

The Antarctic coast holds in the oceans, and represents the boundaries of our known world.

The Antarctic coast is not the Ice Wall.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #62 on: November 08, 2010, 09:20:48 PM »
I think

their own gain

is a pretty good (and obvious) reason.
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Sorry about that. to elaborate, I don't think you answered my question. "gain" isn't a thing.
Somebody answer me now. Why does this conspiracy exist? Answer me right now! Please?!
Not- Is the Earth Flat? or Why is the Earth Flat? I just want to know who benifits from this and in what way. It should be the first and most important part of FET
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #63 on: November 09, 2010, 04:51:37 AM »
They get money saying they're gonna explore RE and RE universe, thing that they don't do, but they keep the money.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #64 on: November 09, 2010, 08:48:21 AM »
They get money saying they're gonna explore RE and RE universe, thing that they don't do, but they keep the money.

That doesn't sound like a very good way of keeping customers.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #65 on: November 09, 2010, 09:12:21 AM »
This conspiracy is supposedly hundreds of years old, how could they anticipate a need to fake a space program?

I don't believe that the Conspiracy is hundreds of years old.

Then how do you explain all the round earth science, ie. gravity and newton hundreds of years ago.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #66 on: November 09, 2010, 09:34:36 AM »
This conspiracy is supposedly hundreds of years old, how could they anticipate a need to fake a space program?

I don't believe that the Conspiracy is hundreds of years old.

Then how do you explain all the round earth science, ie. gravity and newton hundreds of years ago.

They were simply mistaken.

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #67 on: November 09, 2010, 09:40:41 AM »
This conspiracy is supposedly hundreds of years old, how could they anticipate a need to fake a space program?

I don't believe that the Conspiracy is hundreds of years old.

Then how do you explain all the round earth science, ie. gravity and newton hundreds of years ago.

They were simply mistaken.
Evidence?
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #68 on: November 09, 2010, 09:44:08 AM »
Evidence?

Read Earth Not a Globe. The bulk of the book is about why Netwon, Copernicus, and and Ancient Greeks were wrong about the shape of the earth.

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2010, 09:45:51 AM »
Evidence?

Read Earth Not a Globe. The bulk of the book is about why Netwon, Copernicus, and and Ancient Greeks were wrong about the shape of the earth.
The book is more wrong than right. For example, it incorrectly calculates the distance between the Earth and the Sun.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #70 on: November 09, 2010, 10:41:59 AM »
Evidence?

Read Earth Not a Globe. The bulk of the book is about why Netwon, Copernicus, and and Ancient Greeks were wrong about the shape of the earth.

Thats a single source. Any others?

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #71 on: November 09, 2010, 08:50:06 PM »
They get money saying they're gonna explore RE and RE universe, thing that they don't do, but they keep the money.
I keep on trying to point out that thois illusion would be far too expansive, and if they did end up making a profit, it could not be enough of a payout to keep such a huge cover up going on. Is it's not profitable then why is it benifial to the conspirators?

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #72 on: November 10, 2010, 05:13:14 AM »
I keep on trying to point out that thois illusion would be far too expansive, and if they did end up making a profit, it could not be enough of a payout to keep such a huge cover up going on. Is it's not profitable then why is it benifial to the conspirators?


When and where have you shown that the Conspiracy would not be profitable?
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #73 on: November 10, 2010, 05:23:48 AM »
When and where have you shown that the Conspiracy would not be profitable?
If not he then it has been showed many times in this forum in multiple topics. With equal evidence and provability than theory about The Conspiracy being profitable. It's 50:50.
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #74 on: November 10, 2010, 12:37:39 PM »
I keep on trying to point out that thois illusion would be far too expansive, and if they did end up making a profit, it could not be enough of a payout to keep such a huge cover up going on. Is it's not profitable then why is it benifial to the conspirators?


When and where have you shown that the Conspiracy would not be profitable?
bribing 500 astronauts, and many more scientists and engineers with $1 million per year. That costs alot of money.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2010, 12:44:48 PM »
I keep on trying to point out that thois illusion would be far too expansive, and if they did end up making a profit, it could not be enough of a payout to keep such a huge cover up going on. Is it's not profitable then why is it benifial to the conspirators?


When and where have you shown that the Conspiracy would not be profitable?

The same works for the reverse.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #76 on: November 11, 2010, 12:31:28 PM »
bribing 500 astronauts, and many more scientists and engineers with $1 million per year. That costs alot of money.

Again a completely arbitrary number.  $68 billion dollars goes a long way to grease pockets.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #77 on: November 11, 2010, 12:37:29 PM »
bribing 500 astronauts, and many more scientists and engineers with $1 million per year. That costs alot of money.

Again a completely arbitrary number.  $68 billion dollars goes a long way to grease pockets.
Again a statement devoid of information.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2010, 07:35:20 AM »
Evidence?

Read Earth Not a Globe. The bulk of the book is about why Netwon, Copernicus, and and Ancient Greeks were wrong about the shape of the earth.
I heard he incorrectly did math on how fast the Earth would be spinning in a RE model. Shows how smart your Rowbotham is.

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #79 on: November 13, 2010, 02:06:23 PM »
So, the only hypothesis of why there is a conspiracy I have seen here is that RET generates more research and exploration money than FET, but that this research and exploaration is a gigantic hoax: those who get the money put them in their own pockets. Is this correctly understood? Any more ideas?

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #80 on: November 13, 2010, 02:32:27 PM »
So, the only hypothesis of why there is a conspiracy I have seen here is that RET generates more research and exploration money than FET, but that this research and exploaration is a gigantic hoax: those who get the money put them in their own pockets. Is this correctly understood? Any more ideas?

No, it most likely has nothing to do with RET vs. FET.  They're probably just assuming that the world is round and fabricating evidence that supports that conclusion.

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #81 on: November 13, 2010, 02:56:20 PM »
No, it most likely has nothing to do with RET vs. FET.  They're probably just assuming that the world is round and fabricating evidence that supports that conclusion.

Then how did they come to believe that the Earth is round in the first place?

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #82 on: November 17, 2010, 09:27:19 PM »
So, the only hypothesis of why there is a conspiracy I have seen here is that RET generates more research and exploration money than FET, but that this research and exploaration is a gigantic hoax: those who get the money put them in their own pockets. Is this correctly understood? Any more ideas?

No, it most likely has nothing to do with RET vs. FET.  They're probably just assuming that the world is round and fabricating evidence that supports that conclusion.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #83 on: November 17, 2010, 09:29:03 PM »
So, the only hypothesis of why there is a conspiracy I have seen here is that RET generates more research and exploration money than FET, but that this research and exploaration is a gigantic hoax: those who get the money put them in their own pockets. Is this correctly understood? Any more ideas?

No, it most likely has nothing to do with RET vs. FET.  They're probably just assuming that the world is round and fabricating evidence that supports that conclusion.
Agian, for the bajillioneth time: WHY?

We can only guess at their motives.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #84 on: November 17, 2010, 10:41:50 PM »
So, the only hypothesis of why there is a conspiracy I have seen here is that RET generates more research and exploration money than FET, but that this research and exploaration is a gigantic hoax: those who get the money put them in their own pockets. Is this correctly understood? Any more ideas?

No, it most likely has nothing to do with RET vs. FET.  They're probably just assuming that the world is round and fabricating evidence that supports that conclusion.
Agian, for the bajillioneth time: WHY?

We can only guess at their motives.

Kind of like how you can only guess if they are actually a conspiracy or not?
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #85 on: November 18, 2010, 04:18:25 AM »
So, the only hypothesis of why there is a conspiracy I have seen here is that RET generates more research and exploration money than FET, but that this research and exploaration is a gigantic hoax: those who get the money put them in their own pockets. Is this correctly understood? Any more ideas?

No, it most likely has nothing to do with RET vs. FET.  They're probably just assuming that the world is round and fabricating evidence that supports that conclusion.
Agian, for the bajillioneth time: WHY?

We can only guess at their motives.

Kind of like how you can only guess if they are actually a conspiracy or not?

There IS a conspiracy, they just can't prove it.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #86 on: November 18, 2010, 04:28:11 AM »

There is supossed to be a conspiracy for this hypothesis to work, they just can't prove it.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #87 on: November 18, 2010, 07:18:45 AM »
As far as I can tell the logic is as such

1) We start with the axiom that the earth is flat

2) Therefore there must be a conspiracy

3) Therefore it must have some sort or motivating factor like money but we cant think of anything realistic

Classic FE intellectual contortionism, this is what happens when you start with the axiom that the earth is flat.  It leads to other bizarre ideas like bendy light and celestial gears.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #88 on: November 18, 2010, 07:56:45 AM »

There is supossed to be a conspiracy for this hypothesis to work, they just can't prove it.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #89 on: November 18, 2010, 09:46:36 AM »
Allow me to re-quote myself from the Japan samples from space thread:

You don't know the motives. (All we get is: Probably money, like in this thread: We can only guess)
You don't know who is implicated. (Governments? Key individuals? Space programs? All of the above?)
You don't know for how long it has been running, or when was it created.
You don't have any leaks, testimonies or documents.

So please, I'll lurk, but give me something to lurk at.
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