The Conspiracy

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Danukenator123

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The Conspiracy
« on: October 26, 2010, 04:58:33 PM »
There has been a supposed conspiracy that has existed and hid the truth that the Earth is really flat. My point is not if this conspiracy exists or not but why. What would a conspiracy gain by withholding this knowledge. It would take an extraordinarily amount of money to censor the information alone. Ignoring the cost to guard the entire ice wall, you are looking at a billion+ dollar scheme that surpasses all governments. What does this conspiracy stand to gain?
« Last Edit: October 27, 2010, 12:28:29 PM by Danukenator123 »

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Thork

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2010, 05:06:20 PM »
Lurk moar. Almost exactly the same OP.

This thread is still running.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=43513.msg1078391#msg1078391

EDIT: God Dammit! You even posted in the thread I linked, just yesterday! What is wrong with you? And the fact that the linked thread is in General and not Q&A should have given you a clue as to where this one should have lived if it was original. If I was a moderator you'd be on a 100 day bam!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=43513.msg1078771#msg1078771

EDIT2: My god. You are also debating in another conspiracy thread! Right now. You are Conspiracy mad! How many Conspiracy threads will it take before you are satisfied? 200 day bam!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=43491.msg1079608#msg1079608
« Last Edit: October 26, 2010, 05:30:45 PM by Thork »

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2010, 05:39:34 PM »
Lurk moar. Almost exactly the same OP.

This thread is still running.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=43513.msg1078391#msg1078391

EDIT: God Dammit! You even posted in the thread I linked, just yesterday! What is wrong with you? And the fact that the linked thread is in General and not Q&A should have given you a clue as to where this one should have lived if it was original. If I was a moderator you'd be on a 100 day bam!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=43513.msg1078771#msg1078771

EDIT2: My god. You are also debating in another conspiracy thread! Right now. You are Conspiracy mad! How many Conspiracy threads will it take before you are satisfied? 200 day bam!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=43491.msg1079608#msg1079608
This from the self-proclaimed troll who posts as real photos of penguins and polar bears at the rim? What's next? You'll take over moderating RM too?
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2010, 05:39:58 PM »
Maybe he has a thing for conspiracies.  Some people do - they always seem to need one.  Anyhow a nice discussion about why the need for the conspiracy to exist pre-world war II (space age money maker).

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Danukenator123

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2010, 05:45:07 PM »
Lurk moar. Almost exactly the same OP.

This thread is still running.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=43513.msg1078391#msg1078391

EDIT: God Dammit! You even posted in the thread I linked, just yesterday! What is wrong with you? And the fact that the linked thread is in General and not Q&A should have given you a clue as to where this one should have lived if it was original. If I was a moderator you'd be on a 100 day bam!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=43513.msg1078771#msg1078771

EDIT2: My god. You are also debating in another conspiracy thread! Right now. You are Conspiracy mad! How many Conspiracy threads will it take before you are satisfied? 200 day bam!
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=43491.msg1079608#msg1079608

The First link became an argument about the conspiracy's existence. The Second link is about how the conspiracy knows the true shape of Earth. Mine is an improvement of the first link by expanding the discussion to their over all goal and aims. You would be a poor moderator, because you don't even read your own links.  ::)

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2010, 08:35:55 PM »
Don't all conspiracies revolve around power, influence and wealth?
"Never think you can turn over any old falsehood without a terrible squirming of the horrid little population that dwells under it." -O.W. Holmes "Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne.."

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2010, 08:43:14 PM »
Don't all conspiracies revolve around power, influence and wealth?
Actually, all conspiracies revolve around not getting caught.
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Danukenator123

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2010, 08:46:25 PM »
This question has indeed been answered an inordinate amount of times all over the fora. We get a lot of flack for our advisement to lurk and exploit the search function, but it really is not as monumental and unreasonable a task as you all make it out to be - particularly when we don't owe Globularists anything.

I will grant you a boon in this instance and do your work for you; it would have taken you all of two minutes...

The motivations of the conspiracy are ultimately unknown, but there is probably financial incentive.

From what? The globe industry? I would like some legitimation answers.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2010, 08:47:10 PM »
This from the self-proclaimed troll who posts as real photos of penguins and polar bears at the rim? What's next? You'll take over moderating RM too?

What the hell are you talking about?  Thork isn't a self proclaimed troll. His account was hacked by some round earther who put false words into his mouth.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2010, 08:47:38 PM »
We could conspire without resorting to secrecy. Though the word tends to lend itself to the connotation of secrecy.
"Never think you can turn over any old falsehood without a terrible squirming of the horrid little population that dwells under it." -O.W. Holmes "Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne.."

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2010, 08:50:33 PM »
From what? The globe industry? I would like some legitimation answers.

I know you meant to mock, but you may be surprised at the geographical links between the House of Welf, the BGMG and the later Illuminati.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2010, 10:27:30 PM »
We could conspire without resorting to secrecy. Though the word tends to lend itself to the connotation of secrecy.

Notice that I didn't say anything about not getting found out, I said "not getting caught".  Although the former is not technically necessary for the latter, it certainly does help.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2010, 11:20:25 PM »
From what? The globe industry? I would like some legitimation answers.
It costs significantly less to fake a space program than it does to maintain a real one. NASA and the other "agencies" pocket the substantial difference.
No, it doesn't cost less to fake one. It costs more to fake the space program than to run real one.
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2010, 08:30:06 AM »
From what? The globe industry? I would like some legitimation answers.
It costs significantly less to fake a space program than it does to maintain a real one. NASA and the other "agencies" pocket the substantial difference.
No, it doesn't cost less to fake one. It costs more to fake the space program than to run real one.

Not if prolonged space travel is impossible, as it would be with a UA.

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zork

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2010, 08:48:46 AM »
From what? The globe industry? I would like some legitimation answers.
It costs significantly less to fake a space program than it does to maintain a real one. NASA and the other "agencies" pocket the substantial difference.
No, it doesn't cost less to fake one. It costs more to fake the space program than to run real one.

Not if prolonged space travel is impossible, as it would be with a UA.
But you wouldn't know the real cost of the space program in that case. Therefore you can't say that the fake program costs less. You can only assume that.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2010, 09:28:38 AM »
This from the self-proclaimed troll who posts as real photos of penguins and polar bears at the rim? What's next? You'll take over moderating RM too?

What the hell are you talking about?  Thork isn't a self proclaimed troll. His account was hacked by some round earther who put false words into his mouth.
Not even he argues for a hack. Bad try.
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2010, 09:45:37 AM »
This from the self-proclaimed troll who posts as real photos of penguins and polar bears at the rim? What's next? You'll take over moderating RM too?

What the hell are you talking about?  Thork isn't a self proclaimed troll. His account was hacked by some round earther who put false words into his mouth.

... I'm pretty sure he's a self-proclaimed troll.  He made quite the thread about it.  Why do you say he got hacked?

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2010, 12:11:58 PM »
This from the self-proclaimed troll who posts as real photos of penguins and polar bears at the rim? What's next? You'll take over moderating RM too?

What the hell are you talking about?  Thork isn't a self proclaimed troll. His account was hacked by some round earther who put false words into his mouth.

... I'm pretty sure he's a self-proclaimed troll.  He made quite the thread about it.  Why do you say he got hacked?

Because no true FE'er would ever admit to being a troll, therefore his account must have been hacked.  Quite simple, really.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2010, 12:26:05 PM »
Threads related to the Conspiracy belong in Flat Earth General, so I'm going to move this.
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Thork

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2010, 12:41:08 PM »
This from the self-proclaimed troll who posts as real photos of penguins and polar bears at the rim? What's next? You'll take over moderating RM too?

What the hell are you talking about?  Thork isn't a self proclaimed troll. His account was hacked by some round earther who put false words into his mouth.

... I'm pretty sure he's a self-proclaimed troll.  He made quite the thread about it.  Why do you say he got hacked?

Because no true FE'er would ever admit to being a troll, therefore his account must have been hacked.  Quite simple, really.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2010, 02:49:29 PM »
I'm glad your hacking issue was resolved Thork. I still find it odd that your hacker never changed your password and a simple reset was all that was required. Lord Wilmore has gotten it far worse a few times.  Also, thank you to the mod staff for keeping on top of issues like these.  It's a strong and capable mod team that keeps these forums strong. I have nothing but praise for you guys. 

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2010, 08:14:30 PM »
to fake a space program, you would have to hier actors, train, buy the equipment to fake it, pay people to shut up, build anteneas for no reason, film it, edit it, and find a crew that wont ever talk

i think that cost alot, not to mention a rocket, fake satellite info, a way to keep all of the scientific community shut
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2010, 09:52:08 AM »
to fake a space program, you would have to hier actors, train, buy the equipment to fake it, pay people to shut up, build anteneas for no reason, film it, edit it, and find a crew that wont ever talk

i think that cost alot, not to mention a rocket, fake satellite info, a way to keep all of the scientific community shut

Been there, done that.  I hate to say it, but there are a lot of threads on that.  Lurk around and come back when you have unique points to make :)

Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2010, 10:03:54 AM »
I apologise, I just made a thread in the debate  forum on this same subject (well, practically) I probably should've checked first.

But I did just think of something- What about the discovery channel? I see documentaries about Antartica all the time- is everyone whose ever worked on nature documentaries "in" on it? Are they all being paid off too with this mystery money that's coming out of nowhere.

I'm actually kinda impressed by certain arguements here- the ones that involve math and complicated science that I could never understand, but this seems like a huge lapse in logic even for FEers. The earth is flat thus there must be a conspiracy coving it up?  So it dosen't actually matter to you why Or can nobody actually think of a good excuse here?

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2010, 10:49:24 AM »
But I did just think of something- What about the discovery channel? I see documentaries about Antartica all the time- is everyone whose ever worked on nature documentaries "in" on it?

Of course not. They simply visit Antarctica and film a documentary. Why would they be in on anything?
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2010, 10:54:00 AM »
The.... 125 foot ice wall?

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2010, 11:32:41 AM »
The.... 125 foot ice wall?

There are several documentaries which showcase the 150 foot tall ice shelves which boarder the Antarctic coast.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2010, 11:48:20 AM »
The.... 125 foot ice wall?

There are several documentaries which showcase the 150 foot tall ice shelves which boarder the Antarctic coast.

However there is no evidence to suggest those shelves are some sort of barrier which holds the atmosphere in.
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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2010, 11:49:35 AM »
The.... 125 foot ice wall?

There are several documentaries which showcase the 150 foot tall ice shelves which boarder the Antarctic coast.

However there is no evidence to suggest those shelves are some sort of barrier which holds the atmosphere in.


I've never suggested that the 150 foot shelves hold in the atmosphere.

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Re: The Conspiracy
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2010, 11:54:27 AM »
The.... 125 foot ice wall?

There are several documentaries which showcase the 150 foot tall ice shelves which boarder the Antarctic coast.

However there is no evidence to suggest those shelves are some sort of barrier which holds the atmosphere in.


I've never suggested that the 150 foot shelves hold in the atmosphere.

Then what is the significance of the 150 foot ice shelves in FET?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.